Sorry to say, but QW:ET is a failure :(

(Joe999) #41

this one is my fav quote:

(Dr_Tenma) #42

I honestly have no idea why people are saying this game has “aiming problems” or “bad combat.” I feel 100% satisfied with the level of accuracy of all weapons except for the GPMG, which seems to spray more than its “equal” the hyperblaster which is superior.

I don’t jump around like crazy but do strafe constantly - I generally always hit what I aim at, and when I miss it’s never frustrating because its a personal skill issue. I feel like my targets die in 3-8 solid hits of a rifle or lacerator. 2-3 pops of the shotgun/nailgun, which I always use on classes that have it. I don’t know what people are smoking when they say gunfights last too long because of the fast strafe speed. The damage model is fine.

The one big issue I have with combat is that I never have any incentive to play a soldier since the support classes kill just as well, if not better. I’ve won 3v1 firefights as a medic, which isn’t possible in other games. Rather than nerf the other classes, I think soldier needs a boost.

For the record, I sank in over 30 hrs of beta gameplay and reached a rank of Gunnery Seargent.

(gloowa) #43

this one is my fav quote:

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as i can’t understand what he writes i can understand what he means (i think? english is not my native language…) :
do not insult anybody like :

what do not change the fact that i disagree with alkaline totally.

[EDIT]

huh? what about wolfenstein:enemy territory?

strafe speed is ok. i miss ET like spread (no spread at all, pure skill counts not luck)

(murka) #44

hmm, coming from ET and seems like the same but vehicles and weapons have spread…

i have 20hrs and im mastery sergeant… :evil:

today i tried to see how beautiful the graphics are, i turned to max, i was like totally :shock: now i wish i had a gfx card to support the :shock: at better fps, and the :shock: is positive…

(jjpron) #45

We really shouldn’t feed the troll, but whatever, here goes.

The reason why the initial videos looked so good is because yes, the settings were prolly turned up to the max, very much at the level that today’s good cards can do. It’s possible that this level of high quality is not easily achievable in beta.
And furthermore, the speed of the video was slower than in real gameplay. This allows you to see much more detail. It pretty much looks like a nice movie.
Ever notice that actors in the movies don’t talk or move as fast as normal people? Except in pornos, and that’s one of the reasons that makes pornos unwatchable.

[edit]I assume that all of us are old enough to have seen a porno, but that may not be the case[end edit]

For what it’s worth, I’ve had tremendous amount of fun playing the beta since Saturday and learning the intricacies of each side and each class.

Yes balance is always an issue, but that will sort itself out once the majority of the players are not complete noobs. (myself included)
Some douchebags were so offensive to other people there, calling them noobs and whatnot. Well guess what, the game (ie beta) has only been out for 2 days for most of us, so we’re all noobs. Hell, I still don’t know my way in the sewers, but constantly score very high XP and place on the honor roll.

stupid troll made me ramble…

(SCi-Fi) #46

listen to yourselves talk abt flame everyones words of critisism this game is not ET as there is more Quake in there than ET. everyone is or will be boucing once they figure out that is better to bounce than walk.
This game needs a stamina bar and forget abt the infinite energy it is makin this game boring…

(Joe999) #47

no it doesn’t need a stamina bar, the current gameplay concept is perfect, and the game is everything else but boring. it’s a lot of fun, challenge and skill requiring action!

(Gringo) #48

Tbh if people are going to post threads with such idiotic titles then of course its gonna make me angry and I may not be able to suppress my offensive tendencies. I have no problem with people criticizing teh game so long as they raise valid arguments. Any foolishness with be set upon by me with a quickness. It is also very annoyin when people here adapt language that seems to give off the impression that they think their opinion is the word of God.

@Amazing Glarry: Imo the game feels like it has an ET feel about it. I cant really explain it but the movement seems to me to be like ET tho at times the aiming doesnt but that might just be down to the fact that my computer is not fully QW friendly yet!

@Fart666: :evil: Im ur fan boy!

(DerSaidin) #49

Rofl at anyone who thinks graphics are more important than gameplay.

Go watch a movie if you like pretty things. Transformers is quite shiny.

(CyburK) #50

I played BF 42 / 2 CSS Quake4 whatever you name it. But right now theres only Quake 3 and ET on my harddrive. Gameplay is the most important thing in a Game. Ok the sound in ET still sucks and the graphic is not up to date but i really dont care about that. The only thing i worry about is that my PC will be too old for QW when it comes out.

(murka) #51

qw is becoming more of a luck game, i hope they improve the accuracy in all the weapons.

(Joe999) #52

hu? check out vid in first post

http://community.enemyterritory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2526

and that vid also fits to the topic. i definitely don’t see how QW would become a failure.

(bobjones) #53

There’s been a lot of talk about the graphics, and I’m just coming here to clear something up.

In an IRC chat (unfortunately I don’t have the quote), the DEV team said the graphics you see now are more or less the final graphics.
They weren’t ‘dumbed down’ for the beta, the megatexture isn’t of lesser quality than the final, none of that.
What you see is what you get.

(shadrach) #54

true, although r_megadrawmethod 0 in console uses the highest-quality renderer, that bomb was dropped in the ETQW community forums a couple days ago and seemed to quiet the people saying the graphics sucked…it’ll be available in options in the retail version.

(murka) #55

qw is right now all about getting familliar with, coming from ET where skill was everything, im just mad sometimes when a newbie has luck and gives headshots, but with accuracy increased, newbies won’t like the game, i just have to like the game, also i couldn’t watch the vid before because that site had something wrong, maybe it was dl limit for free users, can’t remember, now i can see the vid. qw will become the best gave evar :slight_smile:
the vid was nice, i only get 8fps on highest settings but yeh, i need a better card, also i haven’t touched the mouse sensitivity and my aim seems very poor, might need to have a look, usually in ET i could hit atleast one headshot per 2 kills.

(gloowa) #56

i did some research and you are right spread is only a bit bigger then in W:ET. so i’m puzzled even more. many times i run after some guy, he runs stright i shoot whole clip in his back and hit him something like 3 times in body, when i’m aiming at his head precisely (not a challange as guy runs stright). it’s also not a lag issue methink (i ping around 40~70)

in W:ET my acc was about 40~45%. in QW i feel like my acc is around 10~20%… (once i got most accurate award : 17% :shock: )

(Gringo) #57

Haxxor :wink:

(Sauron|EFG) #58

Does ETQW have the same HUGE hitboxes as ET? If not, that’s probably one of the reasons your accuracy is lower… :slight_smile:

(AKA Sneaky) #59

hu? check out vid in first post

http://community.enemyterritory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2526

and that vid also fits to the topic. i definitely don’t see how QW would become a failure.[/quote]

Murka10 is right (for once :P). The game doesn’t have the same feeling, it removes the whole competition aspect RTCW/W:ET had and what made them popular games. In ETQW the whole teamplay/choke points aspect is gone because the weapon/crosshair system is not working like earlier title, it doesn’t put emphasis on teamplay at all, you can have people rushing in open area not giving a **** about being shot at by 6 players because the hitbox/weapon/crosshair is screwed up. Everyone is running around clueless, i can spot a guy from a mile away have my crosshair right on his head doing 1 shot bursts and it will hit him randomly 1 times out of 10. It’s pretty bad and removes the whole skill that is required to make it a successful competition game.

Case closed.

(jaybird) #60

The whole freaking point you guys are arguing is moot.

I think you people forget this is a beta and not a demo. The accuracy issue is just one that they’ve already said they’re working on and may well have fixed already internally. You really need to hold you judgement for release.

The case is hardly closed.