Is Yor Computer Ready For ET:QW?? ~Free DIY Upgrade Help!~


(aquapancakes) #81

I’m holding off till the 8XXX series from Nvidia comes out. OpenGL 2.1 and DX10 on them, can’t beat that!

I posted cause I was just wondering on the card… Its 2-3 years old and been having some doubts about it running newer games of 07 (UT2007, C&C Tiberian Wars, and ET:QW)… But the card has been running great. Like an above poster stated, the 6800GT been able to run every thing out today on highest settings…


(Moriarty) #82

Well it seems that Microshaft (not a mis-spell) is being quite greedy with its next installment of directX. From what the industry insiders have gleaned about its’ release is that it will only be availible with a copy of MS Vista. which should probably piss off the alternate OS based gamers. Also you cant be sure that the rest of your system is DX10/Vista compatible as they have only released buggy beta for Vista, and no word on the subject of whether or not the DX9 based GPU’s will be compatible with DX10. So not only will you be buying a new graphics card… you’ll probabaly have to change your OS too.


(ouroboro) #83

Tut-tut! It’s a release candidate! You have to be careful around here, man. The hounds are about . . . :eek:

Well, I’m pissed off that my Chevy can’t put down the same numbers as a Ferrari. Poor pitiful me . . .

Microsoft is developing a product and will offer it for sale. If consumers desire DX10, they are free to purchase Vista. And if I desire the performance of a Ferrari, I am free to buy one [insert hearty belly-laugh here]. I can’t expect Ferrari to offer a bolt-in engine for my Chevy [again, an LOL is in order at this juncture]. If they did, it would be a strictly benevolent move on their part–unless government intervened where they have no business and forced them to do so. :banghead:

P.S. Also, my Chevy could never make full use of the engine in the same way a Ferrari could, but that would be the price I paid for insisting on driving my preferred make. :wink:


(kamikazee) #84

I think your comparison doesn’t fit here. The hardware in your PC stays the same, whilst the OS can change.

Now they’re forcing gamers to buy new hardware to run a game, plus a whole new OS because you couldn’t get out the most of your game otherwise. (Or make it so that game won’t even run on non-DX10 platforms)


(Nail) #85

gamers always have to buy new hardware to run new games
upgraded my old PII, 8 meg vid to Celery 1.7, 64 meg MX2 to play Delta Force
upgraded Celery to P4 2.8, FX5700 to play ET
if I want to play any newer games I’ll have to upgrade again
even now it’s hard to get some games to run in Win2K


(ouroboro) #86

I was speaking only to the issue of DX10 supposedly being available only on Vista, and I made an analogy to illustrate why nobody should expect anything different. DirectX is their baby; it’s theirs to develop and distribute as they see fit. You’re not entitled to the benefits of DX10 just because it exists; it’s part of a product that you can take or leave.


(thewonderfulcar) #87

There’s a good reason why DX10 is Vista only. It’s based on a completely different driver model. It’s been designed like that from day one. They’d have to completely hamstring it to make it work on XP, and that would be a waste of time for everyone. The new driver model is the key to the whole thing; therefore the benefits simply wouldn’t translate to XP.

As for DX9 being compatible with DX10: definitely not, in no way, shape or form. That’s why Vista has DX10 for DX10 cards, and DX9.L for everything else (that includes the Aero Glass interface).

DX9 isn’t going anywhere for a while, so don’t get your panties in a twist. Quake Wars is OpenGL anyway, so who cares? :smiley:

And I disagree about Vista being buggy. Incomplete, but not buggy. What do you want, the moon on a stick? :wink:


(aquapancakes) #88

I’m not worried about DX10 so much as I am with OpenGL 2.1. As long as Transgaming is able to get DX10 features to process through OpenGL 2.0/2.1 like they did with DX9 into OpenGL 2.0, I’ll be fine with games that wont be Linux native. Heh, their already doing it now heh. DX10 pretty much copied some things from Linux side with off loading graphics to video and some rendering types from OpenGL. I’m sure even some one will most likely program an app for XP/2000 for XP/2000 users can run DX10 games on DX9 too.

But since there will be a Linux native client of Quake Wars theres no need to worry over DX. But still, Nvidia 8XXX series will pwn hard!


(kareem3210) #89

hi guys will a Dell XPS 600 or 400 or 200 work well. try to answer the 600 one more plzzz


(Nail) #90

with quad sli, yah, I think it will run qw

but then you knew that


(kareem3210) #91

NAil were u repling to me or someone else
and if u were talkin to me whats quad sli


(kareem3210) #92

oh yea and this is the XPS 600
from the dell outlet its 879$

Operating System
Genuine Windows XP Home

Memory
1 GB DDR2 NON-ECC SDRAM 677MHz (2 DIMMs)

Hard Disk Drive
250 GB EIDE SATA II Hard Drive (7200 RPM)

Video
256MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS

Base
XPS 600 Desktop: Pentium D Processor 940 with Dual Core Technology (3.20GHz, 800FSB)

Media Bay
16X DVD +/- RW w/dbl layer write capability
16X DVD ROM Drive


(Moriarty) #93

kareem you should go to dell and get the xps 600… but do it only after Vista is released to that you can get it on your machine from dell.


(kareem3210) #94

i understood the first part but the vista thing i dont get and wat is vista


(Nail) #95

the 600 will handle 2 7950 cards, therefore essentially 4 high end vid cards at once, the xps series are their gaming rigs, pretty much identical to alienware

not much sense asking if the high end gaming rigs of today will be enough, there’s nothing out there better, of course they will :bash:


(kareem3210) #96

ok


(Lanz) #97

I would stay far away from the Pentium D processor, it’s utterly crap, very high on the watt and in the bottom of all tests. If I bought a new processor within a few weeks I would go with the Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 since that seems to be the best price/performance processor today. The only drawback is that all motherboards use the Intel chipset at the moment, so no nForce chipsets available (as I know of anyway). But that will soon change.


(bobjones) #98

XPS’s are supposed to be riddled with problems…

I was considering getting a Dell, but after doing some research I decided to just build my own.


(kareem3210) #99

would a 256 MB nVIDIA GeForce 7900GS be good for ETQW???


(kareem3210) #100

so ur saying the processor wouldnt work? or r u saying it would work but it would be better if i got the duo?