Do you want female models in the game?


(McAfee) #61

The real problem is, how do you like your women? You’ll find different guys have different opinions. So the devs (most being men) will have a lot of choices to make. Finally, when they agree on something:


(signofzeta) #62

or we can have the female models look like lucy from quake 3 lol


(M8DNanite) #63

Good point, if the woman model would be done then SD needs consultation/research big time on this. Wrong kind of woman model than not woman model at all will propably make the ladies more angry.


(signofzeta) #64

Maybe if you storm the SD offices with picket signs, maybe there will be female models in game. Other than that, you’re out of luck.


(Ifurita) #65

Going back to Quake 2, liked the Iron Maiden and Athena models. I wouldn’t mind seeing someone put those together. The Brothers Grimm also put together an Iron Maiden model for Q3, that was quite nice, but all the links seem to be dead


(nUllSkillZ) #66

Wow, 5 sides within one day.
Left at page 3 …

Another reason to not include female player models might be that there would be nude patches.
And with nude patches available it might be impossible to sell the game to non mature gamers in U.S.A. (“coffee shop” mod for this one GTA game if I remember correct).


(Nail) #67

:lol: question ?
Are there female models in - America’s Army, BF, BF2, BF2142, CoD, CoD 2, CoD 3, Halo 1, 2 ,3 , Rainbow Six, Ghost Warrior, CS, CS:S, Far Cry, Crysis


(BrightSoul) #68

memory issues…you can’t be serious. There are tons of textures and vertices all around, I don’t think 1 more model will impact on performance.

As someone said, you just have to change the head and a bunch of textures to represent a female model. Scale proportions, make her flat chested and you’re done.

Are there female models in - America’s Army, BF, BF2, BF2142, CoD, CoD 2, CoD 3, Halo 1, 2 ,3 , Rainbow Six, Ghost Warrior, CS, CS:S, Far Cry, Crysis

why would you deny the fact that female soldiers are fighting wars? Just because CoD X tells so?

Voted yes for realism, but in the end I don’t really care. I prefer they spend more time optimizing the game rather then creating new sets of voices / textures.


(nUllSkillZ) #69

AFAIR there are some Q4 (or D3) custom female models.
So may be they can ported over to ET:QW as mod.

The one I’ve found:


(mortis) #70

Perhaps if there is an ETQW Pro mod, there can be additional skins / voice packs etc. Also - if SD plans a Community Booster Pack or the like, maybe extra goodies can be added in the next year or so.

UT2k4 shipped with tons (I would say excessive) number of player models, and it really did bog down loading times, until in a patch they allowed you to only load the models actively being played (IIRC).

While I think it’s nice to include female models, you’re still excluding race. So you would need to make a model for every race/nationality/sex for each class if you want to include everyone. This greatly multiplies the amount of time/energy/memory issues faced by the devs. I’d prefer for them to be able to concentrate on getting the core game up and running, rather than representing every nationality.

It was always bizarre to me in Wolf:ET that Field Ops were always black. I’d rather have everyone be one generic non-race-specific brownish skin tone. I don’t spend a lot of time in the game staring at player models beyond determining friend or foe. If they want to put in female Zulu warriors who dress in traditional garb, more power to them.


(Nail) #71

why would you deny the fact that female soldiers are fighting wars?

Where the hell did I say there were were no women fighting wars ?

Those are frikkin games, not war, you want female soldiers, go make your own game.


(Danyboy) #72

isnt that what you’re saying?


(Ifurita) #73

I’d like to play as a left handed player too. There are thousands of left handed soldiers that have been disenfranchised by these cookie cutter games that assume all soldiers are right-handed white males. Power to the people. Embrace diversity


(kamikazee) #74

I’m not looking at my teammates all the time, just their name/location. Now stop staring at me. :smiley:


(mazdaplz) #75

I’d like to play as a left handed player too. There are thousands of left handed soldiers that have been disenfranchised by these cookie cutter games that assume all soldiers are right-handed white males. Power to the people. Embrace diversity

i have also received numerous complaints about how the aliens are all strogg. gray aliens, buggers, reptilians and even the kilrathi are all very upset about this.
not to mention the xenomorph and the yautja, kryptonians didnt complain tho because they think all humans are kryptonian :slight_smile:

embrace diversity!


(Dr_Tenma) #76

Hmm, this is off-topic but I believe left-handed soldiers are all trained to fire in the right-handed fashion. You don’t have to assume that a guy/girl holding a gun in his/her right hand is right-handed.

Since guns are all physically designed for right-handed people, there’s no way to use it with your left-hand (effectively). Have you ever seen a gun with the shell ejector port on the left side? I don’t think you want hot shell casing in your face constantly. Also most guns will tend to have the charging bolt on the left side, including this fictional assault rifles on ETQW.

Edit: Actually I just remembered that a friend of mine is going through law enforcement training right now. They teach right-handed guys how to fire a pistol in either hand, in case of injury and such. Again the shell ejector prevents you from using it properly in the left hand, he said they’re taught to hold it in the incorrect sideways “gangsta style” in the left hand so the casings don’t get in your way.


(Ifurita) #77

the charging handle on an M-16/M4 is centerline along the back of the stock. They have brass deflectors for left handed shooters. You could change hands in Q2


(Nail) #78

let’s all pretend the GDF use HK G11s
problem solved


(Ifurita) #79

I don’t think that’s an option. HK G11’s use caseless rounds and I’m pretty sure I saw ejecting brass in the demos


(Nail) #80

cg_brassTime “0”
:wink: