Do you want female models in the game?

(signofzeta) #41

Ya, that’s what I was going to say. What is with these gamers who care so much to have female characters. I see some people pick GDF all the time just because they aren’t alien. WTF?

#42

Of course we need female models but the usage should be determined at the moment of registering an account. The user should be asked whether he’s male of female (or if he/she doesn’t want to tell, in case the model would be male), told the answer will affect whether he/she will play male/female and of course, the answer should affect. No in-game decisions about male and female.

(carnage) #43

i don’t think that would be the method that makes most people happy as i suspect there are quite a large number of male games who prefer to play female characters for whatever reason.

(Keys) #44

I know of lots of guys that play female models in many games that support them, though the reason is not because of the persons in question wanting political correctness they just enjoy the third person perspective ingame. :wink:

(.Chris.) #45

Sorry but I don’t play games to look at butts female or male for that matter.

The topic kind of reminds me of the pointless whine with the black character you played in GTA: San Andreas. Whether you play male or female, black or white it doesn’t add or take away from anything in the game in the slightest. Although I can understand why they wouldn’t put children in such games.

(ayatollah) #46

Oh my sweet Jesus, I have read through this thread looking for a legitimate reason to include female models. I see none. The fact that some people have said that female models would be better to look at, scares me quite frankly. I know they will turn around and say, “I was only joking!” But then give me a valid reason for including them.

The topic starter says it will alienate 30-50% of the market! Where in the earth did you pull this figure from? I would be willing to throw another figure out there and say that, out of the market for FPS games less than 10% of the market would be female. Care to disagree? Prove it.

At the end of the day, if you were to choose a random squad of 5-6 people from an army, you are most likely going to end up with all men. Men are the vast majority of soldiers in all armies across the world, especially in front-line fighting, so the reason for the classes all being men is evident.

Besides why stop there? All the GDF are American! I want an Irishman in there, what about an Englishman? Maybe you could also throw in people from France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Russia, China, Pakistan, India, Japan, Iran, Australia, New Zealand, etc. You know we don’t want to offend people in them countries, they might not buy it if their race have not been included. So the game isn’t racist by its depiction of a Global Defence Force as all American, but it is sexist because it doesn’t depict females in the game?!

Catch a grip, they are models in a game, you want to see females? By all means create a mod. Feminism has gone too far.

(The Pope) #47

Voted no; it takes away from the military atmosphere.

(yibble) #48

Blimey, what military do you have? Britain has a history of women fighting alongside their men. Sure, we forgot about it for a few hundred years, but they’re back there now.

(The Pope) #49

The vast majority of them. Anyway, I’m talking more about ass kicking testosterone filled space marine atmosphere rather than realistic military.

#50

[quote=“carnage”]

i don’t think that would be the method that makes most people happy as i suspect there are quite a large number of male games who prefer to play female characters for whatever reason.[/quote]
And that’s the excact reason why I wanted to keep the whole thing in the registration process. If anyone could choose to play, in this case many people, female, we had way too many femaly characters in the game, actually I believe we’d have an unrealistically large amount of them. This is a war game, majority of soldiers is meant to be males. I think it’s not going to change very soon.

(GlobalWar) #51

I think the vast majority of guys here want a complete different girly model then the girl gamers :slight_smile:

(TTK-Bandit) #52

I can’t see why this would take much more memory than other soldiers.
I’ve always played with female models in games that had female models.
I think its a must to have a female selection for each class, that would make the game way cooler (games with only males just don’t feel right).
If SD is not going to make it, I hope a pro mod is going to fix this.

(kamikazee) #53

It takes more memory because more models and textures need to be loaded at the same time.
Also think of the time needed to make extra models compared to reusing one generic model.

(ayatollah) #54

As far as I can see from screenshots, all the GDF base models are the same but with different equipment (Helmet, weapon, defibs) attached. 1 model loaded 12 times does not take up the same memory as 12 models loaded once. There is a huge difference in memory consumption.

(Nail) #55

I think its a must to have a female selection for each class, that would make the game way cooler (games with only males just don’t feel right).

Please share whatever you’re smoking, you obviously got better stuff than the rest of us.

I don’t ever remember anyone bitching about “Tomb Raider” and I guarantee at least 90% of the players were male. Sounds like a lot of people have real life issues that they want solved by gaming companies. I’m sorry, but until someone comes up with a real reason it would make the game better, go whine to your therapist, they’re getting paid to listen to your self serving drivel.

If the GDF had full face helmets and gloves, no one could tell what race or gender was involved, would that make you all happy ???

(Diecast5) #56

I voted yes , because I would like to see there butt’s while standing behind them LOL J/K , the real reason I sead yes is because there are more than just guy’s playing this game there are 90% of PC player in game are Female players , thay like the site of blowing up and what not but thay do like the war game for a fax thay were a big hit in tribes , tribes2 games . The next time I read up on it Ill copy and post it up here about female players I might be wrong on the % but im sure that female players are waiting to play this Enemy Territory Quake Wars. Female or Male .

(Ifurita) #57

I believe that hit detection may be on a per-pixel/poly basis. If that is true, and assuming that most female models would be slimmer than the corresponding male models (at least that’s the way they’ve worked out in most of the other games I’ve played) I’d guess a lot of people would play female models for the smaller hit zones, if they were offered.

If the female models are the same size as the male models, they’d just look odd.

(McAfee) #58

We could just make them slimmer, and more agile.

(TTK-Bandit) #59

yeah, 1megatexture is taking 8 megs of memory, and a tiny little model takes way more…
models dont take much memory, maybe a couple of megs, I highly doubt its more…
and even if it is more, then SD could make it a clientside choice if the player wants to display only male models or use more memory to show both models.

I can remember some discussion about Q4, where the question was why there where no different sounds for enemies/friends, and they said something about too much memory too, maybe its only about sound, then I’d say bring back the old soundsystem which does not take as much memory.

in any way, memory is no excuse, other games have lots of models too, and they dont use much memory.

I can though see, that it takes time to create the models, and that this might be an issue… but memory is fake imho.

about hit detection:
AFAIK its perpoly hitdetection on vehicles, but hitzones on models.
(perpixel hitdetection doesnt exist, only perpixel lighting…)

(signofzeta) #60

ok male/female, who the hell cares. If you want it realistic with females in the game, go play the sims or something. If you love female models so much, go make your own. Don’t bug SD to delay the game even more to add 10 more models to the game.

Remember, it’s just a game. Like in my street fighter example, I pick Chun li just because of her abilities, and I’m a dude, not because she is female.

Also in final fight 2, there is a strong guy, guy that moves fast, and the girl that attacks fast. I sometimes would pick the female character when I require to use it at some point.

Since the game is already almost done, why make SD start all over with one model if they can keep what they already have?

If you were to complain, it is already a couple years too late. Game is in testing stages and the models are already set.