You know Brink is dead when......

(its al bout security) #41

[QUOTE=BMXer;344328]I know you are just trolling like always but I think you are miss a key point. Maybe the game isn’t as dead on the consoles as it is on the PC atm but its just a matter of time. Console games are fly by night. As soon as the next game comes out on consoles (MW3, BF3), Brink will die on the consoles too. There is no future for Brink or any FPS game on the consoles. There is no chance that anyone will be playing Brink on the console 2+ years from now. Not to mention the current consoles will be dead by then!
On the PC side, there is a huge potential for Brink to be played for a very long time. W:ET, CS, and Quake3/live are perfect examples. Tons of people are still playing those games daily 7+ years after their release.
If Brink on the PC wasn’t to horribly broken and if the devs actually listened to someone who actually plays their games, people could be playing and competing in Brink for many years/seasons. But sadly, I think it is likely too late :).

If this fairly significant bug, the horrible spawn times, the lotto weapons, and the lack of demos doesn’t kill Brink… this might.

http://www.develop-online.net/features/1325/Free-at-last[/QUOTE]

had nothing to do with trolling, i just made a simple point. lets move beyond that, many people still play GTA 4 online every single day and its been a few years.

but just to put it out there. why are you here? no one would miss you if you went somewhere else. all you do is bash the game and pop your head in to troll. not uhh… not seeing the point here johnny.

(shirosae) #42

Isn’t it obvious?

He’s trying to get Splash Damage to see what went wrong with Brink, so they can turn it into the game it has the potential to be. He’s been playing their games for what, 8 years? He doesn’t want them to fail as hard as this.

(xTriXxy) #43

[QUOTE=its al bout security;344490]had nothing to do with trolling, i just made a simple point. lets move beyond that, many people still play GTA 4 online every single day and its been a few years.

but just to put it out there. why are you here? no one would miss you if you went somewhere else. all you do is bash the game and pop your head in to troll. not uhh… not seeing the point here johnny.[/QUOTE]

bmxer is right.

ps. i think console players should move to bethesda forum.
ps2 and welcome to my ignore list

(BiigDaddyDellta) #44

yeah as for the OP crouch and melee and slide tackle physics all need a tweak pretty bad. (I think)

(St NickelStew) #45

Thank you good sir!

Now, PC players just need to show a little patience. SD are clearly supporting this game. But, unfortunately, the “immediate satisfaction” generation is sadly leaving this game too quickly.

(wolfnemesis75) #46

[QUOTE=St NickelStew;344509]Thank you good sir!

Now, PC players just need to show a little patience. SD are clearly supporting this game. But, unfortunately, the “immediate satisfaction” generation is sadly leaving this game too quickly.[/QUOTE]

Brink is alive and kicking on Xbox. There’s still blood pumping through its veins. And SD support for Brink has been day one. Once Clan support amps up and is implemented, the ceiling just goes up. We need to establish a SD forum official Clan: NWO (New World Order) cue Voodoo Childe
:smiley:

(General Techniq) #47

[QUOTE=riptide;344355]Firstly, there is more piracy and it’s easier to pirate on console. Rips of games come out before release for console. Sometimes it takes weeks for a PC rip to come out.

Secondly, there are more PC gamers now by a HUGE margin than there was 10 years ago. It’s just there’s a lot more games these days and the majority of people like their farmville and other endless grinds. Also those “free to play games” across all platforms count for more players than any numbers a paying title can put out… Farmville has over 80 million players.

Again you must note that I never said there were more PC players than console. But to say PC gaming is dying is to have a poor grasp of what is really happening. Which is segregated player base. Companies try to bring in the money through DLC which fragments communities. They also throw a different name and some different art on a game and call it a new AAA title. It has minor adjustments but it’s a very similar… that splits the player base even more.

There hasn’t been a FPS game that REALLY caters to the community since TF2/COD4(in my experience). However there are plenty of RTS/MMOs.

Bottom line PC gaming will never die… Competitive FPS PC gaming well that’s a different story.

Sorry BMXer :frowning: back on topic… Broken game is broke.[/QUOTE]

I know it might be too complicated for you, but at least APPEAR and try to respond to what’s in MY post when you quote it. Don’t confuse what was said by one of your fellow forum members for something that was in my post.

–FPS games on the PC were talked about in my post. I’m an FPS gamer, I don’t waste time with discussion on crap I would never waste two seconds on. Sorry.
–I said that PC FPS (FIRST PERSON SHOOTER) gaming has been on the decline during these past years, which is a given and accepted fact among industry retailers, developers, publishers, AND the FPS gaming community in general.
Don’t put other people’s words in my posts, it’s just silly. FPS PC gaming will always be around in some form or another, and it will always be cutting edge.
–What goes on on consoles as far as hacking/modding/piracy has nothing to do with the PC FPS gaming decline. Console gaming very much at an all time high… Hell, Homefront did around 2mill in sales on console pretty much right out the gate, and is generally viewed as a failure. You don’t see those kind of release sales in PC FPS gaming anymore… not since the last “REAL” Battlefield game (BF2), really.

Piracy, hacking, and cheating are the three largest causes for the decline in PC FPS gaming, with the hassles of upgrading being a distant fourth.

(wolfnemesis75) #48

[QUOTE=General Techniq;344547]I know it might be too complicated for you, but at least APPEAR and try to respond to what’s in MY post when you quote it. Don’t confuse what was said by one of your fellow forum members for something that was in my post.

–FPS games on the PC were talked about in my post. I’m an FPS gamer, I don’t waste time with discussion on crap I would never waste two seconds on. Sorry.
–I said that PC FPS (FIRST PERSON SHOOTER) gaming has been on the decline during these past years, which is a given and accepted fact among industry retailers, developers, publishers, AND the FPS gaming community in general.
Don’t put other people’s words in my posts, it’s just silly. FPS PC gaming will always be around in some form or another, and it will always be cutting edge.
–What goes on on consoles as far as hacking/modding/piracy has nothing to do with the PC FPS gaming decline. Console gaming very much at an all time high… Hell, Homefront did around 2mill in sales on console pretty much right out the gate, and is generally viewed as a failure. You don’t see those kind of release sales in PC FPS gaming anymore… not since the last “REAL” Battlefield game (BF2), really.

Piracy, hacking, and cheating are the three largest causes for the decline in PC FPS gaming, with the hassles of upgrading being a distant fourth.[/QUOTE]

PC is like Betamax. Superior format, but low instal base. Laserdisk. You name it. Best technology is not always adopted by enough people to make it worthwhile compared to its cheaper and more accessible alternative. For every PC player playing Brink, there has to be 1000 players or more playing on console. Time to face reality. If you play PC you are pretty much playing Sega Master System, Colecovision, Laserdisk, and Betamax all rolled into one.

(Apoc) #49

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I had this happen to me like 8 times yesterday! i was shooting at some people and they just went invincible…iv been putting it down to either ridiculous spread or some net settings some players must be using :o

This is a bad bug.

EDIT: look even on my review i have described this happening and put it down to the new carb balances xD

(xTriXxy) #50

[QUOTE=General Techniq;344547]

Piracy, hacking, and cheating are the three largest causes for the decline in PC FPS gaming, with the hassles of upgrading being a distant fourth.[/QUOTE]

sorry, but this is not true. just look at microsoft. even chinese government was using pirated windows! and what about other software? antivirus software? movies? music…

its a lie from game developers that piracy is killing PC game market. true and pure lie to brainwash, and to hide real background: to earn more money.

its easy math. consoles are using crap hardware. for game developer is easy to produce same games at same quality for many years without spending a single cent into inventions or into somehhing new. All is about money!

for eaxmple. ETQW was pirated? yes. but go and download ETQW or Brink from torrents, and tell me, if you can play online. You cannot. So piracy will not affect any earnings at all.

(jazevec) #51

You know Brink is dead when it has imcomplete, outdated and inaccurate wiki.

Honestly this seems to be a pretty good indicator of how good a game is. If a game is pretty good, it will have decent community which will fill the wiki with information.

Compare:


No contest.

(Azev2000) #52

Your numbers are so off that it makes me think you are just trolling. Fps games on PC are still very popular,but yes not nearly as high as consoles. What you need to do is open your BRINK fanboy eyes and realize that it is not the only game that exists.

Completely different genre but look at wow alone. 12 Million subs. There are F2P games that dwarf that number. All played on the system that you claim is as popular as betamax.

(canvasback) #53

QFT, sadly. Such high hopes and now I feel like someone ran over my dog.

(wolfnemesis75) #54

[QUOTE=Azev2000;344583]Your numbers are so off that it makes me think you are just trolling. Fps games on PC are still very popular,but yes not nearly as high as consoles. What you need to do is open your BRINK fanboy eyes and realize that it is not the only game that exists.

Completely different genre but look at wow alone. 12 Million subs. There are F2P games that dwarf that number. All played on the system that you claim is as popular as betamax.[/QUOTE]

^anyone else see the irony. :rolleyes:

(dazman76) #55

Sorry about that - I genuinely thought I’d missed it.

(General Techniq) #56

[QUOTE=xTriXxy;344568]sorry, but this is not true. just look at microsoft. even chinese government was using pirated windows! and what about other software? antivirus software? movies? music…

its a lie from game developers that piracy is killing PC game market. true and pure lie to brainwash, and to hide real background: to earn more money.

its easy math. consoles are using crap hardware. for game developer is easy to produce same games at same quality for many years without spending a single cent into inventions or into somehhing new. All is about money!

for eaxmple. ETQW was pirated? yes. but go and download ETQW or Brink from torrents, and tell me, if you can play online. You cannot. So piracy will not affect any earnings at all.[/QUOTE]

I’m not here to defend or attack media piracy, nor any particular details of it’s affect on electronic media. Not gonna be drawn into such a debate, either, such as I couldn’t really care any less about the subject in general.

I’m talking about PC FPS gaming and nothing else, here.
Fact: PC FPS gaming has declined in recent years
Fact: Piracy, hacking/cracking, and cheating related concerns have led MANY PC FPS developers, PC FPS publishers and PC FPS gamers to focus a lot more on console gaming.
Plain and simple.

YES, with developers and and publishers, it IS pretty much all about money; but root of that reasoning lies with original causes of the decline in PC FPS gaming.
What competent premiere PC FPS developer/publisher would continue to keep their sole focus on PC FPS devevlopment after an overwhelming percentage of they consumer base has shifted to console gaming in parrallel to an enormous expansion of the general console shooter playerbase?

Where the hell would Epic be right now, if they’d have restricted their focus to PC only FPS development as the genre went into decline? (keep in mind that I don’t agree with the way they pretty much shafted PC gamers on the last Unreal release).
I’ll tell you where Epic would be… or better yet, I’ll show you…
points at id software
Broke my heart to see them become some venture crapz biotch.

The dev/publisher focus on console isn’t a cause of the PC FPS decline… it’s an EFFECT. :slight_smile:

(thesuzukimethod) #57

[QUOTE=jazevec;344575]You know Brink is dead when it has imcomplete, outdated and inaccurate wiki.

Honestly this seems to be a pretty good indicator of how good a game is. If a game is pretty good, it will have decent community which will fill the wiki with information.[/QUOTE]

i tend to rely on gameplay to decide how good a game is.

the thing is, you have a point, but your posts remind me of faux news. they have a basis in fact, but these facts (and your op-ed opinions that you treat as facts) are deployed in pursuit of a specific agenda. You have a point, but your bias undermines, rather than amplifies these points (or this point).

besides, is it fair to compare a wiki page for a game that was released 6-7 weeks ago to a wiki page for 4-5 games, the first of which was released in 1993?.

(coolstory) #58

Games like ql cs wont die anytime soon. Do I care more people play on consoles? No. I play for competition (good real competition) and console competitive games are a joke. Aim assist and 30 fps in a FPS competitive game? LOL.

Enjoy your **** games on 30 fps (other than cod series) while I play super smooth games on 120 fps with real competition.

(Terminator514) #59

Livingindenial.com/riptide

Sorry to say, but the proof is in the numbers and the sheer fact that developers are largely ignoring the PC since they know the biggest sales come from the consoles.

(General Techniq) #60

[QUOTE=thesuzukimethod;344643]

besides, is it fair to compare a wiki page for a game that was released 6-7 weeks ago to a wiki page for 4-5 games, the first of which was released in 1993?.[/QUOTE]
At the end of the day, they’re all wiki pages and shouldn’t have been used to prove a point in the first place.