YET another sniper thread... Hear me out ppl?


(Fr33L4nC3r) #1

I know some of u guys hate nipers… but for once… hear one out…

1)The FG42’s crazily inaccurate… and this aint really right… True it fires a full sized cartridge… But still… And the damage it deals sucks too… Look at DOD… Now that’s rifle damage… Maybe a lil bit down…

2)The sniper rifles… NOW dats an issue… I mean, they hit like 9mm handguns! Give us one shot kill weaps… or at least… 2 shot kill weaps… NOW… plz?


(DG) #2

leave the covops sniper as-is imo, and add the rtcw mausier for soldiers :stuck_out_tongue:

rtcw sniper still the best design of any game imho.


(Vengeance) #3

leave the covops sniper as-is imo, and add the rtcw mausier for soldiers

Have to say this is probbably the best suggestion i have read about snipers


(karti) #4

if u heard one sniper, a second wont hurt… :slight_smile:

1.: especially @ freelancer: The F42 is a PARATROOPER-rifle, not a sniper!
Of course it is inaccurate. it doesnt even have an adjustable scope like the real snipers

2.: against @ freelancer:
well…
i dont want to say that u r a bad sniper but…
both (real) sniperrifles, the german and the english one, kill with two shots. This (and a horrible recoil) gives a potential victim a fair chance to escape when hit once (though there r some noobs who think crawling make em a target harder to hit… :cool: ).

@splash damage:
there is somethin strange in et:
if there is an enemy, lets say, using a mg, standing, i crawl, aim, highest zoom, and shoot exactly between his eyes, i dont kill but his helm falls down… hm…

I think the sniper problem is solved very good, better than in most games i ever played, because i hate these one-shot-one-kill snipers like in CS


(bani) #5
  1. against @ karti:

Dude, a sniper rifle headshot would kill you in one shot in real life! Period!


(BoltyBoy) #6

Running along in a map and coming across an enemy, resulting in a firefight dual of skill to the death = FUN

Running along and taking a one-shot-one-kill from an enemy you can’t even see = NOT FUN.

Maybe for all those die hard snipers the new weapon strength seems unfair but for the 95% of other gamers this makes for a more enjoyable game.


(OmegaRed) #7

Seriously, the covert ops is meant to be about killing enemies with stealth like stabbing them in the back, so why are the primary weapon choices all range weapons. a sniper rifle, a part-weak sniper rifle part-incredibly inaccurate close range weapon, and the one of the most annoying weapons in the game, the sten :disgust:


(alexwryt) #8

Bolty-Boy is right, only the very small fraction of players that ever even played as sniper in RTCW care about snipers being nerfed. All the rest of us are happy with the changes, this means no more instant death from a camper you can’t even see. We all know how annoying it was for Axis in mp_beach, every time you’d step in front of a window, your head was shot off instantly. Yeah having a headshot kill instantly is realistic, but no fun for the victim. At least now after the first shot you can take cover or something and have a chance.


(karti) #9

@alex: i completely agree.
i am happy with et and its sniperweapons (except the f42 which should be changed to some close range weapon)

@omegared: why dont u like the sten? its a funny little thing…


(HellToupee) #10

hell a pistol round in the back would kill u most likly, the snipers r good, no point bringing in real life examples cos all guns would pretty much kill u in one shot to the head.


(kenkenif) #11

why cant they just import the sniper from rtcw? and change the sounds, models etc. the sniper in rtcw was a bit realistic…2 shots in the body was 1 kill and a headshot was a kill…


(raibs) #12

ok, guys, u who are against stronger sniper rifle - do u ever play with et sniper rifles and do u kill anybody with them and do u enjoy playing like this?
lets make a sniper rifle weak so nobody likes it, lets make panzerfaust weak, so nobody uses it. lets make all the weapons suck, so everybody is equal, so its hard to kill with every of them. THIS WOULD BE FUN! :banghead:


(BoltyBoy) #13

Sorry you feel that way Raibs but I have tried all weapons and I think they’ve done a good job creating a fair balance.


(Fr33L4nC3r) #14

Fun my ass… but still… A headshot kills… period… And I know for a fact that the FG42’s a lot more accurate then it depicted in ET… A helluva more powerful too…

@ The nipers… Yea i think i haveta agree… Bout the PanFaust too…

But, make the FG42 a bit like a scoped Thompson with a lil bit more power, recoil and ill be a bit happier… U guys too i hope…

While we’re on the subject of weaps… Give us the M1 Carbine as a medic choice weap… Plz Splash Damage? Plzzzz…

That and the Strumgehwer… StG44… But THAT’s askin a bit too much eh?

Fix my FG42… :banghead:


(bani) #15

the rtcw sniper rifle takes skill, especially headshots. it makes a skilled soldier a very valuable player.

i dont like the nerfed garand in et. what will they nerf next i wonder…


(BoltyBoy) #16

Who do you think you’re kidding? Head shots are easy…zoom in and press mouse button …this isn’t skillful (see fun) compared to a close-up one-on-one dual with an automatic weapon.

Fun is taking on an opponent on equal terms and coming out on top. With sniping you’ve pretty much got a guaranteed win against any opposition because “THEY CANT SEE YOU!!!”. This sucks.

Look guys, you want strong sniping weapons because you like getting easy kills so when the round ends you can say “Ooo look I got highest fragger award again”. We all know this. You’re not fooling anyone by pretending it’s something to do with skill or team work.


(Bigdog) #17

I think that if you spend the time to lie down, wiat for the green bar to disapear and aim for someones head. You should be rewarded with a kill. Sniper rifles should kill people with one shot to the head. ET is one of the hardest games to snipe anyone in anyway. If your target is moving then it is virtually impossible. Anyone who stands still for long enough for a sniper to get him deserves it… The sniper rifles at the moment seem to require no skill because it is only luck if your enemy is stupid enough to sit there and take 3 bullets.


(bani) #18

if you want highest fragger award, you play as soldier or medic. you can mow ppl down with mg42 much faster than you can with garand. fragfests are not the point of the garand, it is supposed to be a strategic precision weapon but in ET it is not. it is sorta precise, but not deadly.

we all know you dont want a normal sniper rifle because you want all combat to basically be hand-to-hand. my guess is you get pwned in rtcw.

i could care less about stats. i dont play for stats, though it sounds like you definitely do (otherwise, why obsess about them?)

the garand is totally nerfed in ET, and sets a bad precedent. what weapon will be nerfed next?

if you had your way, we would have rubber panzerfausts that are limited to 10 meters.


(BoltyBoy) #19

Yep you’re right. I love getting max fragger or another award and I’d put money on the fact that you click on the award screen at the end to see if you got listed.

If you don’t care about getting fraggs why are you complaining about the sniper weapons? Heck why not just become a medic and drop medic packs all game long.

I don’t know if this is the reason why SD made sniper weapons weaker, but like I say above - taking a one-shot one-kill hit really does suck and ruin the gameplay for anyone not playing as a sniper. Honestly it really does! You can not use skill to avoid a bullet fired from somewhere you can’t see! I challenge you to say this would make the game more enjoyable for everyone by creating this type of sniper weapon.

And as for Panzers - a panzer can not be fired at nearly the same rate that a sniper weapon can so has little effect on player’s enjoyment. but a lethal sniper weapon is a totally different matter.

And finally, I played tonight as a sniper. All I can say is you guys must seriously suck at sniping to be complaining about it.


(bani) #20

like i said the fact you obsess about stats proves you play primarily for them.

i dont care about stats, i never go to the stats screen, and i wish you could access the limbo menu in the endround screen instead. (some servers have the warmup set too low so you miss the warmup after a rotation and enter a live game, and lose a spawncycle)

anyway its obvious you want a nerfed sniper rifle in ET because you get pwned in rtcw. thats ok, we can pwn you in ET as well. now that i know you hate long range weapons and prefer hand to hand combat, i know the best ways to drive you crazy. :clap: