Would you like to see individual Guaranteed Special Edition cases?

(gg2ez) #41

Your definition of “overwhelmingly negative” is highly subjective, it’s not easy to get - it’s behind a pricey paywall, MarsRover is not skewing your words he is but simply finding the base definition behind them, you accused someone of abusing freedom of expression by telling lies even when by community census and surveys his statement is correct thus inturn ironically have abused freedom of expression.

Extortion is the act of obtaining goods or services by abusive means. If stating where my money would be better spent (you know, the thing you said was Capitalism), then I plead guilty. Let me put that in an example for you:

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[] Consumer choice: You’re selling apples for $4.99 each, MarsRover is selling an entire fruit basket for $5.99, I say to you: “I’m going to buy that fruit basket instead”.
[] Extortion: You’re selling the apples for $4.99 each, I say to you: “Give me the apples or I’ll post pics of you playing Rhino”.

(Drac0rion) #42

[quote=“gg2ez;126922”]
Extortion: You’re selling the apples for $4.99 each, I say to you: “Give me the apples or I’ll post pics of you playing Rhino”.[/quote]

Dude, please, I’ll give you all the apples you want, just don’t let anyone know I wasted 28min of my life on something as horrid as that.
That’s just straight up cruel mate… :’(

(Dirmagnos) #43

My defintion ? “Owerhelmingly negative” is probably the lowest score possible to get in genral. Its like 80-90% of people must have strong negative reaction.
And “finding base definition” behind my words ? You mean, reinterpreting them as he see fit ?
And again, what “community census” ? Again with that crap. Getting opinion from couple of dozen guys is not a “community census”, not even in ballpark of it.
It has to be either absolute majority of active players voting or representatives of groups of those players. We have a bunch of guys, who do not represent community in the slightest trying to push thru their personal agenda by masking it as will of the people.

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[] Consumer choice: You’re selling apples for $4.99 each, MarsRover is selling an entire fruit basket for $5.99, I say to you: “I’m going to buy that fruit basket instead”.
[] Extortion: You’re selling the apples for $4.99 each, I say to you: “Give me the apples or I’ll post pics of you playing Rhino”.

No, youre saying to me: “Cut price to 1 buck or im gonna blow up your business.”

(Mrarauzz) #44

I wouldn’t mind it…I mean just because you can get it won’t make it less rare I’m the future…I can think of games where items that were given out for free ended up being worth a lot in the future. I think it just will depend on the player base future.

(gg2ez) #45

[quote=“Dirmagnos;126971”][quote=“gg2ez;126922”]
Your definition of “overwhelmingly negative” is highly subjective, it’s not easy to get - it’s behind a pricey paywall, MarsRover is not skewing your words he is but simply finding the base definition behind them, you accused someone of abusing freedom of expression by telling lies even when by community census and surveys his statement is correct thus inturn ironically have abused freedom of expression.
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My defintion ? “Owerhelmingly negative” is probably the lowest score possible to get in genral. Its like 80-90% of people must have strong negative reaction.
And “finding base definition” behind my words ? You mean, reinterpreting them as he see fit ?
And again, what “community census” ? Again with that crap. Getting opinion from couple of dozen guys is not a “community census”, not even in ballpark of it.
It has to be either absolute majority of active players voting or representatives of groups of those players. We have a bunch of guys, who do not represent community in the slightest trying to push thru their personal agenda by masking it as will of the people.[/quote]

Your definition of overwhelmingly negative seemed to previously stated that the majority of players had to be "cursing the sht out of SD" for it to be considered so. Is that not subjective? I don’t need to curse the sht out of anything to give an overwhelmingly negative review, nor do you.

We’re not talking about this poll we’re talking about the survey Faraleth made. You know, the one posted on not only here but Reddit, endorsed by the CMs and Devs? Take this as a US election. There are people that don’t vote, does that mean the presidency doesn’t change, no it does change. Even if you’re not taking this like a presidential vote (and you shouldn’t), you should at least listen to the people that speak up and afterwards collect opinions on other players among the playerbase. It doesn’t take a f*cking genius to know that the rest of the community wants.

What kind of bullsht is “masking it as the will of the people”, we don’t need to fcking mask jack sht, get it through your head, we are a part of the people and we’ve given our opinion, fck sake, everyone that’s participated in the survey has given their opinion and the majority of the people that have given their opinion are in favour of what “a bunch of guys” is trying to push. Does a census only hold meaning when every body participates, no, you get as much feedback is due and you scale the numbers up to the size is of the playerbase. I dare you to conduct an entire playerwide survey and tell me I’m wrong, do it, go ahead.

Do you not realise that there are different forms of extortion? That is as much extortion as what I said. If you’re going to follow along your example of extortion, state whereby MarsRover or anyone threatened anything upon SD in order to get what we want.

No one here is asking for a f*cking price cut here Dirmangos, we’re asking for a new product, how does it need anymore explaining? If SD puts these cases out there, people WILL buy them.

(Adam) #46

It should be standard.

(krustybread) #47

[quote=“Jostabeere;126085”][quote=“Feley;126077”][quote=“Jostabeere;126070”]Even if people don’t think so, I believe it would make them less Special Edition.
Make them earnable by some nasty things you have to do like playing 120 hrs during holidays or so, but not purchaseable.
And @Sniff would destroy the forums capacity with the insane amount of pictures of his Special Edition loadouts.[/quote]

This would be exactly my tought for special edition cards, but after that case drop event, it isn’t anymore Special Edition.
You’ll see, after that event at least 50% of community will have those… So why make it hard to purchase, but easy to obtain.[/quote]

Tbh, I find it bad that you can get them out of elite cases and (even if expensive) elite case bundles.[/quote]

I would change my vote if given a chance. Without cards that are truly rare everything gets bland.

I do not mind the elite case purchase % as the devs need to sell to make a living.

(gg2ez) #48

[quote=“krustybread;127404”][quote=“Jostabeere;126085”][quote=“Feley;126077”][quote=“Jostabeere;126070”]Even if people don’t think so, I believe it would make them less Special Edition.
Make them earnable by some nasty things you have to do like playing 120 hrs during holidays or so, but not purchaseable.
And @Sniff would destroy the forums capacity with the insane amount of pictures of his Special Edition loadouts.[/quote]

This would be exactly my tought for special edition cards, but after that case drop event, it isn’t anymore Special Edition.
You’ll see, after that event at least 50% of community will have those… So why make it hard to purchase, but easy to obtain.[/quote]

Tbh, I find it bad that you can get them out of elite cases and (even if expensive) elite case bundles.[/quote]

I would change my vote if given a chance. Without cards that are truly rare everything gets bland.

I do not mind the elite case purchase % as the devs need to sell to make a living.[/quote]
Are event cards rare? During each event so far, f2p players have been given guaranteed opportunities to get these cards via a time period whereby guaranteed cases will drop randomly from matches. Is it bland? Maybe, but if you’re playing for the loadout cards and not the FPS, there’s a reason it’s bland for you.

If the devs implemented individual Guaranteed Cases, they could make their living even more. If you take a look at the community survey from the CW event’s numbers, out of all the people that participated, the vast majority said that they would’ve put more cash to DB if something similar to this happened.

(XP_Expert) #49

[quote=“gg2ez;21612”]Throughout the ‘Containment War’ and now the “What the Dickens?” event, special edition cards could be found within cases, however, by majority opinion, the drop rates of these cards were/are heinously low. The only 100% guaranteed way of getting these cards was/is to buy a 10 Pack of Elite Special Edition cases receiving ONE Special Edition Guaranteed case that will give the buyer 1 random Special Edition card.

A 10 pack of Elite Special Edition cases costs $35 USD, which is a lot to pay for a possibility of only getting 1 Special Edition card.

Here’s the question: Would you like it if Guaranteed Special Edition cases were made purchasable without having to buy the 10 pack of elite cases? If you want to, post the price you feed would be adequate below.[/quote]

it’s see good some merc, example vassili, proxy, sparks, etc.
but assult and some few male not match

(odie5533) #50

@gg2ez said:
During each event so far, f2p players have been given guaranteed opportunities to get these cards via a time period whereby guaranteed cases will drop randomly from matches.

Uh, what? You know the drop rate on the cards is next to nil. I’d imagine only a exceedingly small percentage of free players ever get event cards. Heck, I’ve never even SEEN an event card in-game.

My problem with dropping $35 on Event Cases is I probably won’t even get a card I can use. If by some stroke of luck it matched my limited pool of Mercs, the chances it would be a preferred loadoat are extremely low. So even with a guaranteed Event Card, I probably can’t use it.

I think Skins should be separate from the Cards. Still have special cards, but also have separate skins. I realize they combine them to encourage people to buy more cases/cards, but for me it discourages me from doing so because the chance I’ll get a usable Event Card is so low.

(gg2ez) #51

[quote=“odie5533;127582”]
Uh, what? You know the drop rate on the cards is next to nil. I’d imagine only a exceedingly small percentage of free players ever get event cards. Heck, I’ve never even SEEN an event card in-game.

My problem with dropping $35 on Event Cases is I probably won’t even get a card I can use. If by some stroke of luck it matched my limited pool of Mercs, the chances it would be a preferred loadoat are extremely low. So even with a guaranteed Event Card, I probably can’t use it.

I think Skins should be separate from the Cards. Still have special cards, but also have separate skins. I realize they combine them to encourage people to buy more cases/cards, but for me it discourages me from doing so because the chance I’ll get a usable Event Card is so low.[/quote]

The drop rate was 30% in CW last time I checked. I own 3 event cards, if you’ve never seen an event card ingame you might wanna try looking around at enemies and allies. More often than not you’ll see that one lucky bastard and hunt him down for the salts.

(krustybread) #52

[quote=“gg2ez;127526”][quote=“krustybread;127404”][quote=“Jostabeere;126085”][quote=“Feley;126077”][quote=“Jostabeere;126070”]Even if people don’t think so, I believe it would make them less Special Edition.
Make them earnable by some nasty things you have to do like playing 120 hrs during holidays or so, but not purchaseable.
And @Sniff would destroy the forums capacity with the insane amount of pictures of his Special Edition loadouts.[/quote]

This would be exactly my tought for special edition cards, but after that case drop event, it isn’t anymore Special Edition.
You’ll see, after that event at least 50% of community will have those… So why make it hard to purchase, but easy to obtain.[/quote]

Tbh, I find it bad that you can get them out of elite cases and (even if expensive) elite case bundles.[/quote]

I would change my vote if given a chance. Without cards that are truly rare everything gets bland.

I do not mind the elite case purchase % as the devs need to sell to make a living.[/quote]
Are event cards rare? During each event so far, f2p players have been given guaranteed opportunities to get these cards via a time period whereby guaranteed cases will drop randomly from matches. Is it bland? Maybe, but if you’re playing for the loadout cards and not the FPS, there’s a reason it’s bland for you.

If the devs implemented individual Guaranteed Cases, they could make their living even more. If you take a look at the community survey from the CW event’s numbers, out of all the people that participated, the vast majority said that they would’ve put more cash to DB if something similar to this happened. [/quote]

Maybe “bland” is the wrong choice of a word. Perhaps “less special” is better. BTW,I am here for fun team based play, not the shininess of the card.tx

(TheAcidpiss) #53

eats popcorn while fixated to the monitor

finger hovering over the F5 key in excitement and trepidation

EDIT:
sees the bread, looked fresh
realizes its stale
sad face

(gg2ez) #54

[quote=“TheAcidpiss;127623”]eats popcorn while fixated to the monitor

finger hovering over the F5 key in excitement and trepidation

EDIT:
sees the bread, looked fresh
realizes its stale
sad face
[/quote]

You forgot to use the popcorn gif. Disappointed.

(TheAcidpiss) #55

@gg2ez

what can i say?

im old schooooooooool!

(Dirmagnos) #56

Well, i probably have gone a bit 2 far with that whole cursing part. Main question on this what percentage of whole community have that negative attitude.

We’re not talking about this poll we’re talking about the survey Faraleth made. You know, the one posted on not only here but Reddit, endorsed by the CMs and Devs? Take this as a US election. There are people that don’t vote, does that mean the presidency doesn’t change, no it does change. Even if you’re not taking this like a presidential vote (and you shouldn’t), you should at least listen to the people that speak up and afterwards collect opinions on other players among the playerbase. It doesn’t take a f*cking genius to know that the rest of the community wants.

Part with election doesnt really apply here, since its not just percentage of electorate participation that matters, but also the fact that most of the “democratic” elections have nothing to do with what people wannt(or chose on that matter).
With present issue situation is not as complicated. SD even have feedback section in game, and id say that its far more accurate that some reddit poll. If sufficient amount of people would give negative feedback on this part of event, im pretty sure that Nexon would make appropriate changes.
It may not take a genius to know what the rest of the community wannt, but it does take opinions of an actual community, as actual data, not a few demagogues who claim that they know what community wannts without any basis to it(since they dont have an access to internal data on even those feedback messages nor represent community as a whole).

What kind of bullsht is “masking it as the will of the people”, we don’t need to fcking mask jack sht, get it through your head, we are a part of the people and we’ve given our opinion, fck sake, everyone that’s participated in the survey has given their opinion and the majority of the people that have given their opinion are in favour of what “a bunch of guys” is trying to push. Does a census only hold meaning when every body participates, no, you get as much feedback is due and you scale the numbers up to the size is of the playerbase. I dare you to conduct an entire playerwide survey and tell me I’m wrong, do it, go ahead.

Census only has meaning when sufficient amount of population has taken part in it. Getting 10 guys out of 1000 to vote dosnt reflect what community in general wannts in any way.
And i dont claim that i know what majority of playerbase wannts, i merely state that neither do you.

No one here is asking for a f*cking price cut here Dirmangos, we’re asking for a new product, how does it need anymore explaining? If SD puts these cases out there, people WILL buy them.

So whatever goes, as far as few may get their way ? It seems that we are back to square one.

(gg2ez) #57

[quote=“Dirmagnos;127810”]
So whatever goes, as far as few may get their way ? It seems that we are back to square one.[/quote]

The only person on square one here is you. Again, it doesn’t take a genius to see that the majority of the community wasn’t and isn’t satisfied by a 0.3% drop rate, easy fix, allow them to buy things that give them exactly what they want. SD/Nexon gets their money, we get our cards. 0.3% is just more incentive to buy.

(TheAcidpiss) #58

brb, going to the shop to get some popcorn!

(gg2ez) #59

T’was funny the first time. Want a real popcorn-worthy experience? I hear the Steam Forums are nice this time of year.

(Captain_Forward) #60

Wait wait wait. That explains EVERYTHING!