Would you like to see individual Guaranteed Special Edition cases?

(gg2ez) #1

Throughout the ‘Containment War’ and now the “What the Dickens?” event, special edition cards could be found within cases, however, by majority opinion, the drop rates of these cards were/are heinously low. The only 100% guaranteed way of getting these cards was/is to buy a 10 Pack of Elite Special Edition cases receiving ONE Special Edition Guaranteed case that will give the buyer 1 random Special Edition card.

A 10 pack of Elite Special Edition cases costs $35 USD, which is a lot to pay for a possibility of only getting 1 Special Edition card.

Here’s the question: Would you like it if Guaranteed Special Edition cases were made purchasable without having to buy the 10 pack of elite cases? If you want to, post the price you feed would be adequate below.

(Faraleth) #2

The majority people in a previous community survey said they would like to see individual event cases being sold for real-money… Too bad they didn’t listen, else they likely would have got some money from me right now. :frowning: But as it stands, the only thing I’m buying over this event is my cute little trinkets… :3

(yenku) #3

Of course I would like. Not sure I would buy because the price would be crazy high.
I lost faith in them listening to us. Not saying them giving us what we are asking for, just listening.

(Jostabeere) #4

Even if people don’t think so, I believe it would make them less Special Edition.
Make them earnable by some nasty things you have to do like playing 120 hrs during holidays or so, but not purchaseable.
And @Sniff would destroy the forums capacity with the insane amount of pictures of his Special Edition loadouts.

(ImSploosh) #5

If they lowered prices on things in general, they’d sell more and probably make more money. I’d love to spend some money and show support, but the only reason I haven’t is because I’m not getting anything in return.

Don’t get me wrong though, I’ve played the game a lot and I would have purchased it for $60 if that was its price (that would mean getting ALL of the content for that $60 or else I wouldn’t buy it).

I’d like to see some cheaper options and just better deals in general. So if the cases were able to be purchased, I wouldn’t spend over $5 for one. That’s just too much for ONE loadout for a random character and praying to RNGesus. It would be nice to be able to purchase a case for in-game credits though. Say 50k credits for one case? That seems like a good price point in my opinion.

If the trinkets were $1-$2 each, I’d buy them, but they’re overpriced right now for something so small and useless (can’t even be seen by the enemy or anything).

(Feley) #6

[quote=“Jostabeere;126070”]Even if people don’t think so, I believe it would make them less Special Edition.
Make them earnable by some nasty things you have to do like playing 120 hrs during holidays or so, but not purchaseable.
And @Sniff would destroy the forums capacity with the insane amount of pictures of his Special Edition loadouts.[/quote]

This would be exactly my tought for special edition cards, but after that case drop event, it isn’t anymore Special Edition.
You’ll see, after that event at least 50% of community will have those… So why make it hard to purchase, but easy to obtain.

(Captain_Forward) #7

I bought two “10+1” packs in Containment War update. I won’t buy anything (but one trinket) this time. I think this mean something.
[spoiler]Maybe two trinkets.[/spoiler]

(yenku) #8

What you @Jostabeere say is right too. I mean…
These cases are meant to be special.

MY “problem” with these Special Case loadouts is that they don’t make me feel special.
For me is just another skin that I would be happy to buy for a reasonable price.
That’s why I would like the option to buy.

(Jostabeere) #9

[quote=“Feley;126077”][quote=“Jostabeere;126070”]Even if people don’t think so, I believe it would make them less Special Edition.
Make them earnable by some nasty things you have to do like playing 120 hrs during holidays or so, but not purchaseable.
And @Sniff would destroy the forums capacity with the insane amount of pictures of his Special Edition loadouts.[/quote]

This would be exactly my tought for special edition cards, but after that case drop event, it isn’t anymore Special Edition.
You’ll see, after that event at least 50% of community will have those… So why make it hard to purchase, but easy to obtain.[/quote]

Tbh, I find it bad that you can get them out of elite cases and (even if expensive) elite case bundles.

(gg2ez) #10

@flease I’m not spending any further money on DB for the remainder of the event. I already bought what I could afford and struck out unlucky. I honestly wish I spent it on something more sensible now, like a new game.

(gg2ez) #11

@flease It’s pretty simple, when you pay for RNG, you’re basically paying for self-loathing and regret. I bought everything I could afford, optimistically saying to myself “it’s gonna be different than CW”, hoping that I would be rolling in Christmas cards by the time I was done and all I got was a shitty Vasilli. I actually look back on that decision and regret not spending it on something more sensible - like an FPS with a dev team that rewards it’s paying players.

Yeah, I know what I was getting myself into when I went to buy those cases, but “what I was getting myself into” just isn’t worth its price anymore.

Thanks for all your hard work, SD/Nexon. You’ve made a polished and refined game with great gameplay and good mechanics. I just hate your business model, no beef.

[spoiler]Gonna end this comment before a certain someone rolls in and starts b*tching about “how ungrateful we are”. *cough *cough, Hibb- *cough.[/spoiler]

(kAndyREW) #12

eh kinda conflicted

On one hand, paying for the cases alone will make them way less special, everyone will have them, and no one will really appreciate them. Sort of like how ppl don’t really appreciate the alienware/logitech cards that were given away. AND trading will become a thing, eventually, so you could theoretically get a nice card once the event if over thru trading.

On the other hand, I wouldn’t mind paying for cases b/c there’s STILL rng, and you run a pretty high risk of getting shit card anyways… So it’s not like there will be a flood of amazing WTD? Event cards that will over saturate whatever future market there will be… (unlike how EVERYONE has the M92 skyhammer in alienware, EXCEPT FOR ME!!)

Idk, I’m conflicted myself on this.

Perhaps SD could do a special thing where on the last few days you could buy a pack of 3 for $10 USD?

Or maybe make it a tier reward that exists between the lantern and the Snowman? Play… 35 hours total and get a free Event case!

(Dirmagnos) #13

[quote=“Sploosh;126075”]If they lowered prices on things in general, they’d sell more and probably make more money. I’d love to spend some money and show support, but the only reason I haven’t is because I’m not getting anything in return.
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Such marketing strategy only works with consumables. With permanent items, once certain amount of those is obtained by community in general, their value will drop and will continue dropping, as more are put into circulation(since they do not filter out as time passes).
So, for Nexon to continue selling they would have to either further reduce prices or introduce new sets. That in turn will lead to ppl complaining how they are copypasting same stuff again and again, how easy it is to get and how it all is now worth almost nothing.
Which in turn will create a cursed circle. For people to buy stuff they need to make new and original(ish) stuff, that will take resources away from further game development, that in turn will lead to people not being happy by lack of progress, that in turn will lead to need to introduce new stuff(to compensate for lack of development), that in turn will take resources away from game development…
So, the only viable strategy is to find a balance between effort/price and availability. Otherwise wel be facing a drastic devaluation of event item values in no time due to shear amount of them.
Rather lame approach that many developers take is to introduce something new rare cool, whatever, sell it, then sell it again at reduced price, and finally make it avaialbe at the same level with conventional items. And at the same time introduce something new rare cool, that is slightly better than previous “new rare cool” and then repeat circle indefinitely. Such arms race wont work with DB, at least i dont see how. There are limits of what they can introduce, in terms of loadout cosmetics, be4 whole thing would become ridiculous.

(MarsRover) #14

CW/WTD skin availability is limited by time. People will create a finite amount of cards and that’s it. In time people will stop playing and their rarity will further increase. They will still be rare enough if guaranteed cases were available in store.

Do I want one? Yes.

Will I spend money on a 10+1 pack for a guaranteed one? Hell no. Steam sale is around the corner and I’d rather buy ~4 AAA titles for that.

Would I buy one guaranteed case? Yes, even though I have about 33% of getting a usable loadout, without even allowing for merc and primary preference.

(Hibbsan) #15

What you guys seem to fail to realise is that these are only cosmetic skins. you wont get better at the game if you have them, right? They are giving you so much free stuff this event and you are still complaining. Just because YOU wont spend any money on the 10+1 special edition elite case bundle doesn’t mean that every single person playing will do the same. They are earning a lot of money from this even though a lot of you people are saying that there is no way you will support them. Why do you think they are doing the exact same event again? Because they are actually earning a lot of money, it really is as simple as that. But whats truly sad is that they are going to have a 2 Week guaranteed event case drop and you still complain this much, you should be thanking them for doing this because they are doing it for YOU. They are giving you a chance to get a special edition case yet you whine and whine this much. i seriously feel so bad for SD. They are truly doing a lot of things to make you guys happy and all you do is complain, like always.

Well, that was my rant. Here comes the disagrees.

(PapaHoleNUrHead) #16

I agree with Hibbsan. If they increase the odds of getting one, 1) it becomes just another card and has the same status as bronze, 2) it lessens the desire to get one. I’ve got over 200 hours playing the game, still haven’t gotten a cobalt, didn’t get one of the special CW cards. It’s wonderfully random. If I ever do get one, it’ll probably make my day feel special.

(Faraleth) #17

[quote=“Ford_Prefect;126078”]I bought two “10+1” packs in Containment War update. I won’t buy anything (but one trinket) this time. I think this mean something.
[spoiler]Maybe two trinkets.[/spoiler][/quote]

@Ford_Prefect I am 100% with you on that one. Completely the same boat. :expressionless:

(Backuplight) #18

[quote=“MarsRover;126167”]CW/WTD skin availability is limited by time. People will create a finite amount of cards and that’s it. In time people will stop playing and their rarity will further increase. They will still be rare enough if guaranteed cases were available in store.

Do I want one? Yes.

Will I spend money on a 10+1 pack for a guaranteed one? Hell no. Steam sale is around the corner and I’d rather buy ~4 AAA titles for that.

Would I buy one guaranteed case? Yes, even though I have about 33% of getting a usable loadout, without even allowing for merc and primary preference.[/quote]

I do so love when someone sums up exactly how I feel and I don’t have to articulate it myself. Ta mate. :mrgreen:

(ImSploosh) #19

[quote=“kAndyREW;126152”]eh kinda conflicted

On one hand, paying for the cases alone will make them way less special, everyone will have them, and no one will really appreciate them. Sort of like how ppl don’t really appreciate the alienware/logitech cards that were given away. AND trading will become a thing, eventually, so you could theoretically get a nice card once the event if over thru trading.

On the other hand, I wouldn’t mind paying for cases b/c there’s STILL rng, and you run a pretty high risk of getting shit card anyways… So it’s not like there will be a flood of amazing WTD? Event cards that will over saturate whatever future market there will be… (unlike how EVERYONE has the M92 skyhammer in alienware, EXCEPT FOR ME!!)

Idk, I’m conflicted myself on this.

Perhaps SD could do a special thing where on the last few days you could buy a pack of 3 for $10 USD?

Or maybe make it a tier reward that exists between the lantern and the Snowman? Play… 35 hours total and get a free Event case!

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I agree with you for the most part and like your last two little ideas there. I wish those would actually be implemented :D.

However, I disagree with the first point you made about them not being special if they could be bought with real money. Think about how many people will actually spend money on a free to play game? Not as many as you’d think. A lot of people play them because they simply don’t have the money to spend on a game. Other people will still not see it as a good value and therefore not bother with it. So they would definitely still be special. The only thing is that people will of course buy tons of them and when trading is implemented, there might be a decent amount out there. :stuck_out_tongue: But as others have said, people come and go and their rarity will still increase.

(Drac0rion) #20

If people wanna gather all the special event loadouts, why not let them throw money at you?
I fail to see the problem here.
Sure it might be less “special”, but you will still have to fight the RNG if you want a specific loadout, so throw more money at them!