Who ARE the Brink Community Leaders?

(Weeohhweeohh) #81

[QUOTE=Schwarzeis;288021]Yes, that is correct, Breo!

Those are our leaders, now let’s split the forum into two factions :p[/QUOTE]

Some one should make a poll about security vs resistance so we can see how the community is trending…/trollface

(Schwarzeis) #82

I think it’s been done already :stuck_out_tongue:

Security wins by a few numbers if I remember correctly, but… SOMEONE CAN ALWAYS START A NEW ONE, EH? :cool:

(dommafia) #83

Holy **** at what some of you turned this simple request into…

I usually find good posts from darkangeluk, coolaguy, and maawdawg.

other notables: H0rse, nail, tokamak (except in this thread and most threads dealing with competitive side)

(Linsolv) #84

The reason that the round-table discussion failed is that they failed to take advantage of this thing called the internet.

Basically, if they’d had you guys talking about really high level stuff, and answering strategy questions, and things like that, then people who didn’t understand basic things could’ve easily looked it up, or asked in the other chat and been answered very quickly by any one of the dozens of knowledgeable people in the other chat.

But instead they got together 3 pros and a well-known shoutcaster to try to answer the question “So what’s this Brink thing I’ve been hearing about?”

(tokamak) #85

It had nothing to do with the content, it failed because the organisers used it as a ploy to get more members.

(Linsolv) #86

Don’t be silly. You can easily be both a heartless scumbag and an informative and helpful person. Just look at Bill Gates.

(tokamak) #87

Still, the content could’ve been all exclusive premier scoop, the fact that they hid it behind a wall of sign-up means nobody is going to look it up which means the guest’s efforts fall on deaf ears.

(Jess Alon) #88

People don’t respect you when you generate content just to coax people into signing up for your lame site.

Edit: I correct myself. I meant to say when you fail to generate any original content but ride on someone else’s coat tails.

(Linsolv) #89

I was there. I took the transcripts, though rumor suggests there will be “official” transcripts after the fact.

The thing is, when you spend the entire time asking questions like “Delementary: is brink tv a feature only for pc?” or “Who can host dedicated servers?” or “Kung120: What about melees? Whats stopping them from being like COD?”

Those are questions that anyone with a brain and 5 minutes of research can find out.

(Jess Alon) #90

That’s kind of like when someone makes a thread here linking to a thread somewhere else where you have to sign up to join the discussion. Pretty fakking annoying.

(tokamak) #91

Exactly, with the added offence of spanning a group of well-intended people in front of your chart.

(bosnak) #92

Great discussion going on here! A lot of different views and opinions.

If anyone has everyheard of Day9 from Starcraft he should be a role model for all of us. Coming from the Call of Duty community - (Trolling, immature…) I could continue but in one word it’s a mess, I would believe I have seen the worst developers can do, and what communities can do to an FPS game. Day9 has a perspective on all various types of players and became one of the most well known community leaders in the Starcraft community by helping everyone. He didn’t achieve it alone, by the help of other various community leaders you could say they made the Starcraft community that we have today, along with the help of knowledgeable developers and players.

Yes, I do believe BRINK has the potential to be huge. Coming from RTCW, ET I am very familiar with Splash Damage games and I am a huge fan. Where the BRINK TV staff is heading towards is an amazing start to get the BRINK community together and headed down the right path. It will take a perspective from all types of leaders from various niches, and it CAN be done.

Being a participant of the Round Table discussion and Gamers Portal I do have to make a statement of defense for it here. As you may have understood already that I want to see a huge and positive community for BRINK, participating in the Round Table was my intention for that. It was to inform those who did not know about BRINK, and talk about competition for BRINK. I chose to volunteer my time towards BRINK (and it took a lot of time for this Round Table) developing intros,questions, and formats. To read posts from a few users that this event was pointless and not needed feels like a slap in the face(Not all from one place, overall). Yes, it was NOT done in the right way of media, yes it did drive registrations to Gamers Portal. It was not done the best way, but then again it was the FIRST time anyone has done anything like it for BRINK. It is a start, no one does their best the first time around. There was 250 people in attendance, and I hope most of them walked away knowing a little more about BRINK, and becoming even more interested in it.

I can also not forget to mention how many of my friends on STEAM and XFIRE messaged me the next day saying “Hey I liked the discussion, I just pre-ordered BRINK!”

The open discussion - live stream, is an excellent way to approach the entire community, I fully support what Mattc0m, Grease, and the BRINK TV are doing for all of us.

bosnaK

(tokamak) #93

I watch him daily. The guy is an absolute genius, and yes, he has an incredible influence on the Starcraft community.

It’s basically every day a full hour of this:

(Auzner) #94

I can present facts and cynical opinions of reality. You can bet that my post count represents mostly paragraphs and not all one-liners. Divide it by 6 and that’s probably the number of people who misunderstand/take me too seriously and get pissed off. I also photoshopped some publicized pixels. I can do more when the game is out… well in June when if I have time for it.

H0RSE has the most famous name. I don’t think “leader” was the appropriate vocabulary for this topic though. More like who are the people consistently intelligent and active enough to be noticed.

(Linsolv) #95

I don’t think anyone’s really a leader, because for me and many others there are a TON of people (I can’t count them on my fingers) who might be considered really informative, really nice, really cool people.

For me, I like Auzner, even though he probably thinks I’m the cancer as a PS3 gamer. I like H0RSE. I like Nail. I like Jess Alon.

On the other hand, Tokamak can make me mad as all get out, and those are just the names I can think of off the top of my head, even though there’s a lot more people who are helpful.

I know a lot of people like Toka, so that’s just my opinion, but the point is, there’s maybe a dozen people around who seem to have a lot of influence on a lot of people, and to try to point to any of them in particular and say they are or are not important is a little difficult.

@Bosnak: You guys clearly did put a lot of work into it, and to be honest it is more frustrating by far because I felt like it COULD’VE been really great. If something feels like a waste of time, I ignore it and you won’t even hear me criticize it most of the time, sorta like with Bulletstorm. It’s a cool concept. If we were to say “worst game ever” unqualified, I’d have to say Barbie Pony Princess. But that’s an obvious target.

The Brink round table really sounded very cool. Was it a marketing ploy? Obviously. I don’t know why people are so bent out of shape about it. Nobody even tried to HIDE that it was marketing, which is why I’m not bothered in the slightest. But the decisions you guys made, in the long run, took a wrong turn at Albuquerque and with that one wrong decision became, sadly, very hard to really say was a quality time.

I feel like I did not waste my time being there. I had to eat dinner alone instead of with my family to make the time, and then I spent 2 hours carefully refreshing to get the transcript complete, for sure. And it was worth it for me to be there because I got to hear a few insights, and I got to help people who couldn’t be there. But it wasn’t what I thought it was, and to the people who have to read the transcript instead of being there to ask questions, I don’t think they “missed” anything. So that’s what I mean. I’m harsh because it sounded really cool and I was quite interested in it, and was disappointed that it was pretty much what we’ve already gotten a number of times.

Not that you guys didn’t work hard enough or didn’t try hard enough. I know you worked very hard, and you maintained an impressive level of professionalism throughout. That you guessed wrong, in my opinion and not necessarily everyone’s, and that it didn’t turn out to be what I’d hoped for.

(Well. Except that brief interlude where Habibi talked about the site. That was weird. Sorry, guys, but the transition was just too jarring.)

(bosnak) #96

[QUOTE=Linsolv;288187]I don’t think anyone’s really a leader, because for me and many others there are a TON of people (I can’t count them on my fingers) who might be considered really informative, really nice, really cool people.

For me, I like Auzner, even though he probably thinks I’m the cancer as a PS3 gamer. I like H0RSE. I like Nail. I like Jess Alon.

On the other hand, Tokamak can make me mad as all get out, and those are just the names I can think of off the top of my head, even though there’s a lot more people who are helpful.

I know a lot of people like Toka, so that’s just my opinion, but the point is, there’s maybe a dozen people around who seem to have a lot of influence on a lot of people, and to try to point to any of them in particular and say they are or are not important is a little difficult.

@Bosnak: You guys clearly did put a lot of work into it, and to be honest it is more frustrating by far because I felt like it COULD’VE been really great. If something feels like a waste of time, I ignore it and you won’t even hear me criticize it most of the time, sorta like with Bulletstorm. It’s a cool concept. If we were to say “worst game ever” unqualified, I’d have to say Barbie Pony Princess. But that’s an obvious target.

The Brink round table really sounded very cool. Was it a marketing ploy? Obviously. I don’t know why people are so bent out of shape about it. Nobody even tried to HIDE that it was marketing, which is why I’m not bothered in the slightest. But the decisions you guys made, in the long run, took a wrong turn at Albuquerque and with that one wrong decision became, sadly, very hard to really say was a quality time.

I feel like I did not waste my time being there. I had to eat dinner alone instead of with my family to make the time, and then I spent 2 hours carefully refreshing to get the transcript complete, for sure. And it was worth it for me to be there because I got to hear a few insights, and I got to help people who couldn’t be there. But it wasn’t what I thought it was, and to the people who have to read the transcript instead of being there to ask questions, I don’t think they “missed” anything. So that’s what I mean. I’m harsh because it sounded really cool and I was quite interested in it, and was disappointed that it was pretty much what we’ve already gotten a number of times.

Not that you guys didn’t work hard enough or didn’t try hard enough. I know you worked very hard, and you maintained an impressive level of professionalism throughout. That you guessed wrong, in my opinion and not necessarily everyone’s, and that it didn’t turn out to be what I’d hoped for.

(Well. Except that brief interlude where Habibi talked about the site. That was weird. Sorry, guys, but the transition was just too jarring.)[/QUOTE]

Thank you, and yes - there was nothing Gamers Portal was trying to hide, it was all straight forward from what I read. I do hear this often though “It’s not what I expected” I’m not sure where the miscommunication was, but in the posts it was directed towards driving competition with BRINK and informing people about BRINK. Maybe working on it I didn’t see the outside perspective, but I felt the execution for my thought process in the discussion went great.

On to better things now of course - The release :slight_smile: 6 more days, few competitions coming along from Brink TV, PlayIGL, and a new addition today - CSN.

Along with another round table discussion as well - hopefully a bigger turn out for this.

(Linsolv) #97

Let me see if I can find the original post, so I can address the issue. Of course, it’s always my goal to try to minimize miscommunication between people.

Ok, you guys really didn’t promise a lot. But you did imply, by getting 4 relatively high-profile people and through statements like

We will cover a wide variety of topics in our discussion and hear about strategies our VIPs have seen in their gaming careers as to what makes the competitive community a success
that you would be speaking on a high level, where this simply did not seem to be your goal. That’s obviously a question of preference, and I didn’t feel MISLED, as much as that I had completely innocently misunderstood.

(Mustang) #98

[QUOTE=tokamak;288128]It’s basically every day a full hour of this:


How could anyone not want to play Starcraft after watching this?

(Jess Alon) #99

I think Nail is pretty awesome too. Me myself I wouldn’t want to be called a community leader or representative ever. Maybe if you wanted to call me some sort of xbox community representative for SD forums. Then sure. I’m involved in a consistent group that is NOT a Brink clan but merely just a large group of Day One players. My entire friends list is all people who are as obsessed with Brink as I am or more. Wraith on bethforums has a cult like following behind him currently. Though I don’t know all of those people because I’ve been banned from bethforums four times now. But thanks for the respect. I don’t get it often.

(Nail) #100

I’m going to get Brink for 360 first, watch the kid play, if I want to play, I’ll run a server or two and play on them, “community leader” no thanks, I run a little game fan site, can be exhausting.