What is it that makes you not like the Blishlock?

(Bojangles) #61

Get out of here with your typical GDI agenda of promoting looks over function. I’m sure you think the NOD tiberium technology looks ugly too huh? The Brotherhood accepts all weapons despite their look as long as they will fight for peace, brotherhood, NOD. http://img09.deviantart.net/6de1/i/2008/153/c/e/eroded_nod_logo__by_adder24.jpg

(TndY) #62

Don’t let the rof scare anyone, the ones complaining can’t aim.
Anyone that uses the gun effectively will agree.
Most rewarding gun for all the top trackers out there.

Best gun requires aim?
Who ever heard of such a thing?

(Szakalot) #63

[quote=“TndY;97821”]Don’t let the rof scare anyone, the ones complaining can’t aim.
Anyone that uses the gun effectively will agree.
Most rewarding gun for all the top trackers out there.

Best gun requires aim?
Who ever heard of such a thing?[/quote]

Funny then how you never see top-player bushwhacker’s using blishlok over kek.

Blish has its great moments but accuracy drops to nothing already after a short burst.

The guns that benefit the most from good aim are the ones that hit where you are aiming at, not the ones that spray all over the place.

(Sir_Slam) #64

That dot. Mien Gott. It jumps around more than a…than a…

It jumps around a lot. If this is supposed to be the take-aim-and-get-headshots gun, they shouldn’t have given it so much bloody recoil. SMGs require a little more ADSing than rifles, so the ability to actually use the sights is important. The dot is so massive though that staying on target is way harder than it should be.

(TndY) #65

[quote=“Szakalot;97822”][quote=“TndY;97821”]Don’t let the rof scare anyone, the ones complaining can’t aim.
Anyone that uses the gun effectively will agree.
Most rewarding gun for all the top trackers out there.

Best gun requires aim?
Who ever heard of such a thing?[/quote]

Funny then how you never see top-player bushwhacker’s using blishlok over kek.

Blish has its great moments but accuracy drops to nothing already after a short burst.

The guns that benefit the most from good aim are the ones that hit where you are aiming at, not the ones that spray all over the place.[/quote]

Just because you’ve never seen it, doesn’t make it false statement.
No problems here controlling it’s recoil or tracking multiple enemies.
Tap fire isn’t necessary either after you’ve been using it awhile.

Proven vs top players, I guess it’s a matter of personal choice,
In the end I would like it very much left alone and kept in the game.

(gg2ez) #66

[quote=“TndY;98026”][quote=“Szakalot;97822”][quote=“TndY;97821”]Don’t let the rof scare anyone, the ones complaining can’t aim.
Anyone that uses the gun effectively will agree.
Most rewarding gun for all the top trackers out there.

Best gun requires aim?
Who ever heard of such a thing?[/quote]

Funny then how you never see top-player bushwhacker’s using blishlok over kek.

Blish has its great moments but accuracy drops to nothing already after a short burst.

The guns that benefit the most from good aim are the ones that hit where you are aiming at, not the ones that spray all over the place.[/quote]

Just because you’ve never seen it, doesn’t make it false statement.
No problems here controlling it’s recoil or tracking multiple enemies.
Tap fire isn’t necessary either after you’ve been using it awhile.

Proven vs top players, I guess it’s a matter of personal choice,
In the end I would like it very much left alone and kept in the game. [/quote]

Whilst I agree with you there, it still doesn’t justify how you said that everyone that doesn’t like it cannot aim.

(TndY) #67

[quote=“gg2ez;98042”][quote=“TndY;98026”][quote=“Szakalot;97822”][quote=“TndY;97821”]Don’t let the rof scare anyone, the ones complaining can’t aim.
Anyone that uses the gun effectively will agree.
Most rewarding gun for all the top trackers out there.

Best gun requires aim?
Who ever heard of such a thing?[/quote]

Funny then how you never see top-player bushwhacker’s using blishlok over kek.

Blish has its great moments but accuracy drops to nothing already after a short burst.

The guns that benefit the most from good aim are the ones that hit where you are aiming at, not the ones that spray all over the place.[/quote]

Just because you’ve never seen it, doesn’t make it false statement.
No problems here controlling it’s recoil or tracking multiple enemies.
Tap fire isn’t necessary either after you’ve been using it awhile.

Proven vs top players, I guess it’s a matter of personal choice,
In the end I would like it very much left alone and kept in the game. [/quote]

Whilst I agree with you there, it still doesn’t justify how you said that everyone that doesn’t like it cannot aim. [/quote]

Well to “dislike” and “not-prefer” are two different things.
When I hear how “terrible” it is, I have to take issue with that.
I imagine they haven’t put the time in and compare it immediately to other smgs.

Maybe it’s a little harsh but I stand behind my comment.

(gg2ez) #68

[quote=“TndY;98058”][quote=“gg2ez;98042”][quote=“TndY;98026”][quote=“Szakalot;97822”][quote=“TndY;97821”]Don’t let the rof scare anyone, the ones complaining can’t aim.
Anyone that uses the gun effectively will agree.
Most rewarding gun for all the top trackers out there.

Best gun requires aim?
Who ever heard of such a thing?[/quote]

Funny then how you never see top-player bushwhacker’s using blishlok over kek.

Blish has its great moments but accuracy drops to nothing already after a short burst.

The guns that benefit the most from good aim are the ones that hit where you are aiming at, not the ones that spray all over the place.[/quote]

Just because you’ve never seen it, doesn’t make it false statement.
No problems here controlling it’s recoil or tracking multiple enemies.
Tap fire isn’t necessary either after you’ve been using it awhile.

Proven vs top players, I guess it’s a matter of personal choice,
In the end I would like it very much left alone and kept in the game. [/quote]

Whilst I agree with you there, it still doesn’t justify how you said that everyone that doesn’t like it cannot aim. [/quote]

Well to “dislike” and “not-prefer” are two different things.
When I hear how “terrible” it is, I have to take issue with that.
I imagine they haven’t put the time in and compare it immediately to other smgs.

Maybe it’s a little harsh but I stand behind my comment.[/quote]

Trust me, alot of us have put in the time to test the Blish. I recently have - I found myself to be quite OK with it, it’s got a pleasant headshot multiplier.

When I hear how “L2P” fellow forum-members are, I have to take issue with that. I imagine that the person who said that hasn’t put in the time to get to know and observe this “generally” great community.

If sharing our opinions makes us worse at the game, then so be it.

(TndY) #69

[quote=“gg2ez;98070”]Trust me, alot of us have put in the time to test the Blish. I recently have - I found myself to be quite OK with it, it’s got a pleasant headshot multiplier.

When I hear how “L2P” fellow forum-members are, I have to take issue with that. I imagine that the person who said that hasn’t put in the time to get to know and observe this “generally” great community.

If sharing our opinions makes us worse at the game, then so be it. [/quote]

I think L2P is a big issue with all sd’s games, begins tho usually with the playerbase from other games.
Been a part of the sd community for 13 years (rtcw,et,etqw,brink,db), no problems there.
I saw how sd reacts to feedback during brink and it’s my main reason for saving my breath in db.

If the alphas were in charge this game would be done and very good atm,
but that’s a long story and most of the alphas are long gone.

(gg2ez) #70

[quote=“TndY;98100”][quote=“gg2ez;98070”]Trust me, alot of us have put in the time to test the Blish. I recently have - I found myself to be quite OK with it, it’s got a pleasant headshot multiplier.

When I hear how “L2P” fellow forum-members are, I have to take issue with that. I imagine that the person who said that hasn’t put in the time to get to know and observe this “generally” great community.

If sharing our opinions makes us worse at the game, then so be it. [/quote]

I think L2P is a big issue with all sd’s games, begins tho usually with the playerbase from other games.
Been a part of the sd community for 13 years (rtcw,et,etqw,brink,db), no problems there.
I saw how sd reacts to feedback during brink and it’s my main reason for saving my breath in db.

If the alphas were in charge this game would be done and very good atm,
but that’s a long story and most of the alphas are long gone.[/quote]

That’s not my point. My point is that I have an issue with you saying that people that dislike the Blish are sht. Alot of really good people on the forums dislike the Blish, saying that they can’t aim just because of their opinion is just illogical. I’m sht at aiming, if anything, using the Blish makes me better. It’s not a matter of the player’s skill, it’s a matter of the gun’s build. A person that can aim well, regardless of the gun is going to do well.

(Eox) #71

[quote=“gg2ez;98107”]

That’s not my point. My point is that I have an issue with you saying that people that dislike the Blish are sht. Alot of really good people on the forums dislike the Blish, saying that they can’t aim just because of their opinion is just illogical. I’m sht at aiming, if anything, using the Blish makes me better. It’s not a matter of the player’s skill, it’s a matter of the gun’s build. A person that can aim well, regardless of the gun is going to do well. [/quote]

That’s the good philosophy ! :slight_smile:

People are free to have their opinions. If someone says that one weapon is not that good, it does not mean that person is bad or inexperienced. If one calls someone bad for saying that the Blishlok is underpowered, it’s a logical fallacy called “ad hominem”. What’s ad hominem exactly ? It’s when instead of arguing around someone’s arguments you just start to attack the person itself (“ex : X thinks that Blishlok is trash because he has a bad aim”). And it’s just the worst thing someone could do while arguing, because it’s just more or less like insulting someone, while assuming things without even knowing how that guy act or plays.

In my case, I think the blishlok needs a buff, yet I won’t go and tell to anyone that thinks otherwise that he or she is bad or something.

(gg2ez) #72

[quote=“Eox;98116”][quote=“gg2ez;98107”]

That’s not my point. My point is that I have an issue with you saying that people that dislike the Blish are sht. Alot of really good people on the forums dislike the Blish, saying that they can’t aim just because of their opinion is just illogical. I’m sht at aiming, if anything, using the Blish makes me better. It’s not a matter of the player’s skill, it’s a matter of the gun’s build. A person that can aim well, regardless of the gun is going to do well. [/quote]

That’s the good philosophy ! :slight_smile:

People are free to have their opinions. If someone says that one weapon is not that good, it does not mean that person is bad or inexperienced. If one calls someone bad for saying that the Blishlok is underpowered, it’s a logical fallacy called “ad hominem”. What’s ad hominem exactly ? It’s when instead of arguing around someone’s arguments you just start to attack the person itself (“ex : X thinks that Blishlok is trash because he has a bad aim”). And it’s just the worst thing someone could do while arguing, because it’s just more or less like insulting someone, while assuming things without even knowing how that guy act or plays.

In my case, I think the blishlok needs a buff, yet I won’t go and tell to anyone that thinks otherwise that he or she is bad or something.[/quote]

This is what 6 years of debate club has done to me :lol: I now have a meticulous “argument minded” mentality.

Basically the point is what TndY said was just rude and incorrect.

(Szakalot) #73

[quote=“TndY;98026”][quote=“Szakalot;97822”][quote=“TndY;97821”]Don’t let the rof scare anyone, the ones complaining can’t aim.
Anyone that uses the gun effectively will agree.
Most rewarding gun for all the top trackers out there.

Best gun requires aim?
Who ever heard of such a thing?[/quote]

Funny then how you never see top-player bushwhacker’s using blishlok over kek.

Blish has its great moments but accuracy drops to nothing already after a short burst.

The guns that benefit the most from good aim are the ones that hit where you are aiming at, not the ones that spray all over the place.[/quote]

Just because you’ve never seen it, doesn’t make it false statement.
No problems here controlling it’s recoil or tracking multiple enemies.
Tap fire isn’t necessary either after you’ve been using it awhile.

Proven vs top players, I guess it’s a matter of personal choice,
In the end I would like it very much left alone and kept in the game. [/quote]

I don’t have an issue with recoil, i have issue with spread (bloom), it feels like after 10 bullets the gun goes all over the place, everywhere except the target. I can definitely agree that the first few bullets can be deadly if all hit head, so blishlok has high swing potential, kind of like grandeur. I just don’t find it reliable enough, when more optimal choices are out there, just like grandeur.

Do you switch to ADS a lot?

Even if you can convincingly go against high-level players, that doesn’t mean you wouldn’t be BETTER off with other smgs. And in the end it has the 2nd lowest DPS of them all.

(TndY) #74

Rude but correct.

[quote=“Szakalot;98431”]Do you switch to ADS a lot?
[/quote]
Never.

The dps difference is negligible for the pace.
Against the smg-9 and crotzni I prefer the damage of Blish.
In all my 1v1’s with phoenix, bushwacker or phantom kek
the blishlok feels overpowered every time.

(gg2ez) #75

Rude but correct.[/quote]

No, it’s not. Pull your head in. “Just because someone doesn’t like the Blish means they can’t aim”, is just a stupid and arrogant statement. If you think that out of everyone that dislikes the Blishlok, none of them can aim, you’re too close minded to be worth arguing with.

(Grave_Knight) #76

TndY thinks he’s better than he really is. Probably impressed when he cracks 5k in Objective and 10k in Stopwatch.

(gg2ez) #77

No, what he think is the Blish is the best SMG in the game because it outweighs the others in performance, it doesn’t.

You can’t compare the Blish to the KEK, Crotzni, ect. and expect to win by fighting with stat numbers because every other gun eclipses it stat-wise. The only real defense the Blish has is playstyle and preference.

(Lumi) #78

It’s funny how people are trying to defend the blishlock, while I show up around the corner with a Hochfir, Keck, Crotzni or SMG-9 and go like “bye bye”. So this means the only smg’s the blishlock is actually better than is… none…

Hmm… wait… No, that’s right the point here is that the blishlock sucks in pretty much every aspect when compared to other smg’s, except maybe for single bullets to the head. But unless someone is standing still and you’re aiming down sight and shooting one bullet at a time, that isn’t going to happen too often. I can already hear Aura saying: “Ain’t nobody got time for that!”

Seriously, in good hands any weapon is good. Blishlock is not total useless crap but why chose an inferior gun? Crotzni kills are so easy, granted the small clip is annoying at times, hochfir is a bullet laser storm with just as many bullets in a mag as the k-121 (btw only game I know with as many bullets in an LMG as an smg), while the Keck and SMG-9 are much more consistent gund than the blishlock has ever been. It’s really a no-brainer.

(TndY) #79

Who cares about xp?
Your logic is interesting, blishlok = bad player.

Blishlok shines in every situation.
The pace of the game results no downside to lower rof and dps
when tracking between mercs like proxy and aura, never standing still.
I wouldn’t say it sucks, in fact just the opposite.

(Grave_Knight) #80

[quote=“TndY;99692”]Who cares about xp?
Your logic is interesting, blishlok = bad player.[/quote]No. My logic is:
Blind devotion to the Blishlok despite evidence that it’s a bad gun = bad player.