Unofficial "Empty Server List" Fix

(Rudi) #401

[QUOTE=cheesy;394248]Hey Rudi, after looking at things I can make that work. If the path to the ftp or http download will remain the same, I can include this in the installer. If the path to the most recent installer never changed, than we can guaranty that the player installing ET would always have the most updated proxy. But if it changed with each version then it would not work out. I say this because we don’t want to make multiple et installers right? If this is possible on your end, I can make the installer download it as per your request. I also have it set to manually install an ip address of the working master list…but this will be only if the download fails.

Some things I was curious about are:
How long do you think the level of commitment for Paul’s list and ip will be? What about your proxy?
Will your proxy adopt the ip address of future master lists even if not hosted with id or etmaster.net?

Thanks much![/QUOTE]

Sorry, I’ve been ill the past few days nearly dead, then my laptop blew up, so bad times :smiley:

Anyway, the path will always be the same to the latest version so it should work fine. Once I’ve got the data back off my hard drive I’m making an update to it that includes an autoupdate of the server list. That way if Paul’s list does ever go down and I (or someone else) brings another server list up, it won’t need to be redownloaded as it’s automatic.

How long do you think the level of commitment for Paul’s list and ip will be? What about your proxy? - Well I’m not disappearing anywhere soon, so the proxy can always be updated if required. I obviously can’t speak for Paul, but I don’t think he’s going to disappear any time soon either :wink:
Will your proxy adopt the ip address of future master lists even if not hosted with id or etmaster.net? - Yes, like I said above I’m making an update that will make it easy to add servers without downloading an update.

(yishayyy) #402

when will be up the servers list?

(Mateos) #403

If you mean “When”, nobody know yet.

(yishayyy) #404

its will be some time?

(cheesy) #405

ET Setup 2.0 Installer Manager

Ok, so I have been working on simple application that will install ET, PB, etkey, and Rudi’s master list in one shot. It is not really an “installer” per say, but rather a batch process that runs in background installing apps and applying fixes. As a server owner, I get tired of redirecting players to tons of applications and telling them how to use them.

Here is what it does…

  • Installs original Wolfenstein Enemy Territory
  • Latest PunkBuster service, updates, and fixes from etkey.org
  • Rudi’s Host Service which it downloads
  • ETkey installer to establish identity on servers (a backup if etkey.org installer is not used)
  • Locks the etkey as read-only, because some service interactions may accidently delete it
  • OS Permissions and compatibility fixes for ET and PB
  • Automatic and Manual master server list installers
  • Option to check for future updates

I tried to include a few contingencies in this installer manager. For instance, if Rudies service does not download, it will install the master list independently (as long as Rudi’s is not installed). It pings a remote server which will tell it which master list should be installed (id software’s or etmaster.net’s). If both fail, it keeps the default and asks the user to perform an update. There is an update feature so lets say Rudi’s service is down, id is still down, and etmaster.net’s list is down…at least the update will tell the user how to proceed. There is also an advanced option to manually edit the master list. The goal here is to have an installer that will go the distance if things change in the world.

My issue right now is going to be getting id to agree to bundling ET. It is not allowed without written consent, so I have a request in the works. However if they say no, I will configure the installer manager to search the user’s computer for a valid et installer and if not there it will simply download it.
It’s not a final product yet, I still need to have the contributors stress-test it, and I was hoping to get some icon/logo contributions.

ETIM Install.jpg635×659 54.9 KB

ETIM installing apps.jpg818×634 76.8 KB

(Domagoj) #406

Its good to know that someone is tryin to get this fixed :wink:

(macbeth) #407

[QUOTE=blindman100;394048]Make fun? not in my view.
I believe I stated that earlier, why would they bother to inform anyone really, the game is roughly nine years old and it never made them a dime.
If peoples entire gaming life revolves around et, then i just think thats sad. There are a few decent free games around now,
nexuiz,xonotic,sauerbraten and redeclipse to name a few.
I had fun with et and continue to do so, I just don’t see the point in bemoaning the loss of something that isn’t lost.[/QUOTE]

depends how is populated your server…

when u still have a populated server it is frustrating to see than atm they dont fxed their master servers list

(Harle) #408

[QUOTE=cheesy;394716]My issue right now is going to be getting id to agree to bundling ET. It is not allowed without written consent, so I have a request in the works. However if they say no, I will configure the installer manager to search the user’s computer for a valid et installer and if not there it will simply download it.

ETIM Install.jpg635×659 54.9 KB

ETIM installing apps.jpg818×634 76.8 KB

[/QUOTE]Asked the same and ID never answered me if i am allowed to publish my installer…
The Idea is great with just download the et.255 installer and patch it with the latest patches. You just need a good source for Installer, Patches and everything that won’t go offline soon or have a dynamic list to download the files…

Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory 2.60b (no updates needed after install)

Additional Setup options:
Install current PunkBuster Client Version: (v2.254 | A1382) Server Version: (v1.809 | A1382 C2.254)
Check if etkey is needed and download from http://etkey.org or http://etkey.net (fallback)
Install PunkBuster service installer (pbsvc.exe)
Install Enemy Territory Minimizer (WinXP/Vista/7)
Create Start Menü shortcuts for ET, PB, Minimizer & Help Files
Create Desktop Shortcut
etded.exe - wwwdl overflow fix

Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory 2.60b Custom (Windows) - Installer Download Size: 259MB

A simple check if ID masterlist is online could be added and download Rudis fix if needed, maybe i’m going to add that.

@cheesy maybe we could work together to reach a bigger base as we both use nsis and aim at the same.

KISS (Keep it stupid simple) to install ET.

(Ruben0s) #409

40+ days ago the masterserverlist went down and we don’t even have an ETA on when it will be back. Although it’s a free service they could atleast have informed us a bit better. Maybe we should spam their facebook/twitter page and thank them for their great customerservice :slight_smile:

Like: Thanks ID software for informing us so well on the downtime of the masterserverlist <3

(Domagoj) #410

[QUOTE=Ruben0s;394760]40+ days ago the masterserverlist went down and we don’t even have an ETA on when it will be back. Although it’s a free service they could atleast have informed us a bit better. Maybe we should spam their facebook/twitter page and thank them for their great customerservice :slight_smile:

Like: Thanks ID software for informing us so well on the downtime of the masterserverlist <3[/QUOTE]
We should send em greeting cards xD

(Ruben0s) #411

Yea greeting cards with all the IP addresses of ET servers written on them. And than a message saying that this is how we nowadays have to find our ET servers.

Or we could send them an invitation for the funeral of the masterserverlist.

(Domagoj) #412

[QUOTE=Ruben0s;394767]Yea greeting cards with all the IP addresses of ET servers written on them. And than a message saying that this is how we nowadays have to find our ET servers.

Or we could send them an invitation for the funeral of the masterserverlist.[/QUOTE]
Lol, dont be so mean xD

(cheesy) #413

[QUOTE=Domagoj;394733]Its good to know that someone is tryin to get this fixed ;)[/QUOTE]Thanks, but actually many people are a part of this, as my installer includes their work

They have nothing to gain by responding, but it is possible to get a response…even if it is no. I have been told no a few times…just not by id yet lol.

I agree, primary should be a fast, reliable dl that will stick around. Any suggestions?

You also work with Rudi host service? or do you mean your own installer?

I didn’t know you were working on an installer. Is it a full stand-alone installer or bundle like mine? Any progress? PM me…my inbox is not full and neglected like other people here lol.

(BigBear) #414

Hi! :slight_smile:

Please can the owner of the New Master Server solve a ridiculous problem that exist since always ?

Client 2.55 do not see “2.60B” Servers
Client 2.60B do not see 2.55 and 2.55+ (Patched server are in fact a 2.6X version :))

** You know that a lot of servers (certainly the most part) are Patched 2.55+ **

Please can you do what is necessary to display any version of server in any versions of Client ?

One IP:PORT = Displayed in Both Client Versions (2.55 / 2.6X)

Up to this day many Admins are using Server Façade (for those that are able to use Server Facade depending of their hosting company) are be able to display their server in any Client Version (generally they use a 2.55+ to be compatible to any client that connect), but I think it is now time to remove the necessity to use Server Façade.

I request this feature since a long time… and it can be very cool if you can Fix that :slight_smile:

Thank You for All ! :slight_smile:

BigBear

(Patriotqube) #415

[QUOTE=BigBear;394795]Hi! :slight_smile:

Please can the owner of the New Master Server solve a ridiculous problem that exist since always ?

Client 2.55 do not see “2.60B” Servers
Client 2.60B do not see 2.55 and 2.55+ (Patched server are in fact a 2.6X version :))

** You know that a lot of servers (certainly the most part) are Patched 2.55+ **

Please can you do what is necessary to display any version of server in any versions of Client ?

One IP:PORT = Displayed in Both Client Versions (2.55 / 2.6X)

Up to this day many Admins are using Server Façade (for those that are able to use Server Facade depending of their hosting company) are be able to display their server in any Client Version (generally they use a 2.55+ to be compatible to any client that connect), but I think it is now time to remove the necessity to use Server Façade.

I request this feature since a long time… and it can be very cool if you can Fix that :slight_smile:

Thank You for All ! :slight_smile:

BigBear[/QUOTE]

dosent sound like a good idea tbh

(cheesy) #416

@ BigBear
You are going to get a million opinions on this 2.55 versus 2.60b thing.
Here is the deal, there is no valid programming reason to have a 2.60b client anymore, other than to utilize the redirect option. As far as security, stability, and bugs…all fixed server-side with 2.55+ patch now.
Some people want the 2.60b list to stay separate for several reasons, but the main reason is because of serious hard core scrimmer-type dudes that love tweaking, editing configs and having a list with like minded people.
As far as I am concerned, let them stay there on the 2.60b list, I don’t want them near my servers. I like the simple, stock config, noobs. That’s where all the business is at anyway!
Bottom line:
If you want a tight-nit group of competitive players on a server…keep on 2.60b list
If you want all sorts of players and lots of them…keep on 2.55 list…they will come

…but I can understand why most owners want the list consolidated.

(stealth6) #417

It would be better to just get everybody on the same version. 2.55, 2.60b or 2.55+ who really cares, make a 3.0 maybe then people will notice that the numbers are different.

Splitting it up into 2.55 and 2.60b and then different server lists… How much of the community will be left over?

(cheesy) #418

[QUOTE=stealth6;394803]It would be better to just get everybody on the same version. 2.55, 2.60b or 2.55+ who really cares, make a 3.0 maybe then people will notice that the numbers are different.

Splitting it up into 2.55 and 2.60b and then different server lists… How much of the community will be left over?[/QUOTE]

No worries, id is NOT going to put the list back up. And there is only 1 unofficial list the community is supporting…etmaster.net (see the first post). Case closed.

I can’t comment on making a combined server list, that is above my paygrade. But if that ever happens, I will include it in my installer auto-updater.

(BigBear) #419

What WET need more … is a Strong Advertisement to attract new players !

WET is not dead there are many persons that work strong and many initiatives like ET XREAL…

But what WET need more than the rest is a Strong Advertisement ! : Hey do you know WET :slight_smile:

I do not use Social Networks, but all the persons here that Know many persons should talk of that game to any of their friends :slight_smile: [And think about Women too, for example we have good Women players on our servers !]

Everyone can win concerning that, including SD… because if players can discover SD Forum & Products, and if they Love SD products… and if they can come tired of playing WET (after playing a long time it is always possible !)… the players can think to look at the other SD games :wink:

WET is a nice Business Card for SD :slight_smile:
We can all find our interest : For us players, for SD new potential Clients :slight_smile:

If some agree that idea I am Ready to put a Big Link to SD Forum on my Forum :slight_smile:
And you, will you do the same on your Forum if SD can be interested ?
It is somewhere a “Carrotmob like” :cool:

(Feelgood) #420

What are the possibilities to get this “fix” for RTCW?