@Splashdamage, badman
Since this is the only way we can communicate, please, has there been any news about master list? Any ETA date?
Unofficial "Empty Server List" Fix
cheesy
(cheesy)
#382
[QUOTE=Domagoj;394201]@Splashdamage, badman
Since this is the only way we can communicate, please, has there been any news about master list? Any ETA date?[/QUOTE]
There is no ETA. While there is a chance the list may return from id software, they make no suggestion to community.
Tankey
(Tankey)
#383
I call that one of the biggest fails you can make. You should inform its community about what is going on.
cheesy
(cheesy)
#385
Hey Rudi, after looking at things I can make that work. If the path to the ftp or http download will remain the same, I can include this in the installer. If the path to the most recent installer never changed, than we can guaranty that the player installing ET would always have the most updated proxy. But if it changed with each version then it would not work out. I say this because we don’t want to make multiple et installers right? If this is possible on your end, I can make the installer download it as per your request. I also have it set to manually install an ip address of the working master list…but this will be only if the download fails.
Some things I was curious about are:
How long do you think the level of commitment for Paul’s list and ip will be? What about your proxy?
Will your proxy adopt the ip address of future master lists even if not hosted with id or etmaster.net?
Thanks much!
Harle
(Harle)
#387
After reading this thread today (skipped few posts) i like to thank ALL that put time and work into ET and made it so much fun to play and host it since years. We all know that ET got a EOL and hope that it is far away in future. As long i see players having fun on my server there is no reason to shut the service down.
[QUOTE=stealth6;391369]As somebody previously stated why not implement a way to get an etkey from etkey.org and kill 2 birds with 1 stone?
That will take away all the dependencies ET currently has.[/QUOTE]Think that is exactly what i did few months ago. It is just hard to get the big sites hosting it.
[QUOTE=$omator;391566]true on that etminimalizer and mod picker would be wesome addon[/QUOTE]Don’t think a mod selector is needed, as they all upload to the client automatic in the needed version.
[QUOTE=Paul;392130]If you request the serverlist without giving a protocol, it will return all servers. My first thought was to do this anyway in 2.60b as most servers are 2.55+ now anyway, but it seems ET filters that out so unfortunatly my trick didn’t work :([/QUOTE]i won’t host my et server on any freaking 2.55+ version.
[QUOTE=wolfn00b;392440]If ID needed to make money to justify keeping ET online, they could have charged a subscription to have a server listed on the master list. I bet a lot of admins would pay $5 or $10 a month to list a server on the id master list. This would give them a reason to put it back online. Maybe someone could suggest it to them.
This would also have the effect of reducing the number of junk servers, and cut down on all the clans that use multiple listings of the same server to increase traffic. I always thought that was a lame trick.[/QUOTE]The idea ain’t that bad, but the list should contain paid and unpaid server. No idea how but paid server should then get a tiny advantage for their payment. (maybe more allowed server updates per min or whatever). Why not…
As long as ID is working on a solution for the master list the “Hirntot” Enemy Territory Installer" (was mentioned by some here even if it was not named as that) i will not add the temporary masterlist solution.
blindman100
(blindman100)
#388
Originally Posted by wolfn00b
If ID needed to make money to justify keeping ET online, they could have charged a subscription to have a server listed on the master list. I bet a lot of admins would pay $5 or $10 a month to list a server on the id master list. This would give them a reason to put it back online. Maybe someone could suggest it to them.
This would also have the effect of reducing the number of junk servers, and cut down on all the clans that use multiple listings of the same server to increase traffic. I always thought that was a lame trick.
I dunno.
I always thought free should stay free. I get that a lot of you pay for the server to be hosted, but it just seems lame to charge for something that was never charged for for years.
Harle
(Harle)
#389
The game would be still free to play, only hosting would be a little more expensive.
Patriotqube
(Patriotqube)
#391
I cant see the reason to discuss about paying any fees at all for this
Il wait to start talk about stuff like that which i btw are strongly against until i see ANY development in the status of the masterserver.
I havent payed for running et servers now in 8 years, and im not willing to start doing so now tbh, not without some very good reasons.
what they are doing atm seems like a deliberate attempt to kill the game.
Imo its about time to start thinking on other ways, between us that reads this thread and actually cares there gotta be lots with download sections for ET, i know i have 1, so if we here could agree on what solution that would be best to follow.
and then make 1 gameinstall with what is needed to play the game, without silly adverts from single clans, then we could upload that solution to our downloads, and start advert for that on our servers and the forums we frequent, also take contact to ID and other companies and ask them politely to either remove their 2.55 installs or update it to the solution thats been decided here.
Use our servers to advert for the new install, just put in a few banners about it, maybe a directlink in gamemenu or w/e
Dont declare me a negativ person that screams game is dead, im not, i just dont believe in ID anymore, and imo its about time we stop about talking temp fixes, we need a perm fix.
Lets face it ID is a Company, and Companies needs to make money, and there are no money in fixing the masterlist. Money Talks
Harle
(Harle)
#392
[QUOTE=Patriotqube;394434]and then make 1 gameinstall with what is needed to play the game, without silly adverts from single clans, then we could upload that solution to our downloads, and start advert for that on our servers and the forums we frequent, also take contact to ID and other companies and ask them politely to either remove their 2.55 installs or update it to the solution thats been decided here.[/QUOTE]Done exactly that months ago…
At the moment i just don’t like to add a solution to the installer that was created to be temporary.
If not ID is hosting the list someone has to. Don’t forget that no hosting is for free, electricity, maintanance, hardware, traffic, ip, dns, … It need to be set who is going to host the masterlist then, how the money for that will be paid and a time window for how long that will be.
ID said they take care of it and don’t forget it will come online again : “When It’s Done”
[QUOTE=Patriotqube;394434]I cant see the reason to discuss about paying any fees at all for this
…
Lets face it ID is a Company, and Companies needs to make money, and there are no money in fixing the masterlist. Money Talks[/QUOTE]lol 
Patriotqube
(Patriotqube)
#393
Well if they starts it again we can maybe talk about a fee, but I wont be pleased at it, and im pretty sure il decline to do so
But my last remark didnt have somthing todo with the first. I can understand if ID wants to shut it down because there is no money in it, as i also can understand that many wont pay for a 8+ year old game, just to get it on a list they had access to for free all the time. so if ID decides to shut it down, because of money, well thats ok for me to, just aslong as someone informs us what is going to happen. so we can start react
and the fact that ID said theyll take care of it and that it will come online when its done ? well how long can it take to setup a server, including safety issues etc etc?
Keeping us in the dark, is actually a way to secure nothing is going to happen as half of us are waiting for the masterserver and are sure it will be online in 5 minutes and the rest dont believe that, it is dividing the community and therebye ensuring that nothing will happen.
Im dane so if my english is bad or wrong or misspelled thats the reason 
again im not blaming ID for shutting it down, its good thinking to cut the losses for a company, what i am annoyed over is the lack of communication.
and dont give me the crap about them not beeing obliged todo so, well im not obliged to buy the next ID game either or to setup servers for it (if possible)
We are customers (also in future gamereleases). and an update from them about status in fix or a statement saying we wont fix is not to much to ask for
blindman100
(blindman100)
#394
[QUOTE=Patriotqube;394434]I cant see the reason to discuss about paying any fees at all for this
Il wait to start talk about stuff like that which i btw are strongly against until i see ANY development in the status of the masterserver.
I havent payed for running et servers now in 8 years, and im not willing to start doing so now tbh, not without some very good reasons.
what they are doing atm seems like a deliberate attempt to kill the game.
Imo its about time to start thinking on other ways, between us that reads this thread and actually cares there gotta be lots with download sections for ET, i know i have 1, so if we here could agree on what solution that would be best to follow.
and then make 1 gameinstall with what is needed to play the game, without silly adverts from single clans, then we could upload that solution to our downloads, and start advert for that on our servers and the forums we frequent, also take contact to ID and other companies and ask them politely to either remove their 2.55 installs or update it to the solution thats been decided here.
Use our servers to advert for the new install, just put in a few banners about it, maybe a directlink in gamemenu or w/e
Dont declare me a negativ person that screams game is dead, im not, i just dont believe in ID anymore, and imo its about time we stop about talking temp fixes, we need a perm fix.
Lets face it ID is a Company, and Companies needs to make money, and there are no money in fixing the masterlist. Money Talks[/QUOTE]
Actually I agree here. I haven’t payed to operate servers in any way unless you count the isp fee.
I would just recommend looking around for another game you can live with.
redeclipse is a small community atm. they are looking for new players and clans because it is so new.
diaboliksmart
(diaboliksmart)
#395
You’ve already talked about redeclipse. And I’ve downloaded it to try (why not ? I often play TrackMania ^^), but gameplay and scenes are more like Quake3, and really not our beloved Wolfenstein Enemy Territory.
Personaly, I could not run a server of a game not my favorite one.
schnoog
(schnoog)
#396
RTCW is not free
After the release of the full sourcecode under GPL, at least the multiplayer part is free of charge…correct me if I`m wrong.
blindman100
(blindman100)
#397
[QUOTE=$mart;394477]You’ve already talked about redeclipse. And I’ve downloaded it to try (why not ? I often play TrackMania ^^), but gameplay and scenes are more like Quake3, and really not our beloved Wolfenstein Enemy Territory.
Personaly, I could not run a server of a game not my favorite one.[/QUOTE]
didnt claim it was like et, only an alternative. I did play tm for quite a while last year, even had a server. fun if ya like driving games i guess.
schnoog
(schnoog)
#399
a valid cdkey is not needed anymore, since the pb master server is down. In princip you could use your etkey file.