Unofficial "Empty Server List" Fix

(blindman100) #221

[QUOTE=wolfn00b;392440]If ID needed to make money to justify keeping ET online, they could have charged a subscription to have a server listed on the master list. I bet a lot of admins would pay $5 or $10 a month to list a server on the id master list. This would give them a reason to put it back online. Maybe someone could suggest it to them.

This would also have the effect of reducing the number of junk servers, and cut down on all the clans that use multiple listings of the same server to increase traffic. I always thought that was a lame trick.

I’m wondering if the ddos exploits of all the quake 3 servers was a factor in turning off all the master lists for all the quake 3 game. Haven’t heard anyone say much about it, but if they were being used as ddos platforms then maybe there was some legal liability they had to address.

My little server is dead, last night I had no players at all when I went on to check it. Usually there are 5 or ten people on. It’s on the new masterlist but I don’t think most ET players know about it. I have a little forum and it is dropping off too, I have told my regulars to update their ET.exe but only six of them have downloaded it from where I hosted it. So as a server hoster I am thinking ahead here and maybe I will be switching to another game soon.[/QUOTE]

Dunno if id want to pay for the ‘privelege’ of having my server listed for a free game. As for the asinine udp floods, anyone with google skills and a working knowledge of iptables can render those mostly useless. ET is not going away that easily, if anyone thinks a few little script kiddies can take it down they are sadly mistaken.
The new master has the advantage of weeding out the dead servers from the other master, that cant be a bad thing.
My clan, [FL] has been around since the advent of RTCW, that makes it one of the oldest et clans still operating.
AS for new players, why couldnt the install file and the .run file for et be altered to point at the new master, there doesnt seem to be much concern over copyright issues with all the mods going now.

(Tankey) #222

5members lost in 1 day…

Things are going more and more worse…

ET gets killed by their own producer, quite ironic >,>

I pray that it gets back soon, or it will be RIP best game ever.

(blindman100) #223

[QUOTE=Tankey;392512]5members lost in 1 day…

Things are going more and more worse…

ET gets killed by their own producer, quite ironic >,>

I pray that it gets back soon, or it will be RIP best game ever.[/QUOTE]

jesus christ, you peeps think et is going away?
that the issue with young people today, if they cant have something their way at the click of a mouse, it isnt worth doing, no wonder this world is going to hell.
bottom line is it only dies if we let it.

(rorgoroth) #224

Even if they did decide to take the master server down, you have to look at it from another way, all these years they gave away a free game and a free service, you can’t really complain at that.

As long as people enjoy playing the game, ways around obstacles will always be found to keep it alive :cool:

(wolfn00b) #225

[QUOTE=blindman100;392508]Dunno if id want to pay for the ‘privelege’ of having my server listed for a free game. As for the asinine udp floods, anyone with google skills and a working knowledge of iptables can render those mostly useless. ET is not going away that easily, if anyone thinks a few little script kiddies can take it down they are sadly mistaken.
The new master has the advantage of weeding out the dead servers from the other master, that cant be a bad thing.
My clan, [FL] has been around since the advent of RTCW, that makes it one of the oldest et clans still operating.
AS for new players, why couldnt the install file and the .run file for et be altered to point at the new master, there doesnt seem to be much concern over copyright issues with all the mods going now.[/QUOTE]

Well I would pay, and you can stay on the SD list for free. To each his own. I only have one server, I have tried running multiple servers and it eats into my playing time and personal life babysitting a bunch of servers.

Let’s say that 100 servers are willing to pay $10 a month to host on the ID masterlist - that’s $12,000 a year that ID could make, for basically just keeping a website up and accepting some PayPal transactions into an account. Maybe they give everyone a server key so they can register their ET server on the pay list.

Basically they are still throwing money away - they threw money away when they gave the game away, and now they are throwing it away by shutting down a valuable service. Seems to be a pattern here.

I think the new management is mad at the world for the disaster that Rage is, after five years and all the hype, and more people were still playing ET than Rage. They lost Carmack and are busy chasing off any talented people they have left.

And yes I agree we need to update the original installer so it points to the new list since ID probably isn’t going to put the list back up. Maybe call it ET 2.7 or 2.6c so people will know it is legit.

(macbeth) #226

i agree the idea to merge is a great idea if the master servers list does not back …but better to wait for maybe 1 week more
we run an usa server located at new york with noquarter and we have members and regulars from all around the world
i am going to be pissed up to pay for 2 sites and 3 ET servers lol

(Domagoj) #227

[QUOTE=macbeth;392538]i agree the idea to merge is a great idea if the master servers list does not back …but better to wait for maybe 1 week more
we run an usa server located at new york with noquarter and we have members and regulars from all around the world
i am going to be pissed up to pay for 2 sites and 3 ET servers lol[/QUOTE]

haha indeed :smiley:

(blindman100) #228

[QUOTE=macbeth;392538]i agree the idea to merge is a great idea if the master servers list does not back …but better to wait for maybe 1 week more
we run an usa server located at new york with noquarter and we have members and regulars from all around the world
i am going to be pissed up to pay for 2 sites and 3 ET servers lol[/QUOTE]

I am happy to say I haven’t paid for an et server in 8 years and Im not going to start now lol.
It for sure isnt dead, yesterday at this time I was seeing about 180 servers, today that number is well over 200 even with the heavy udp flood traffic(morons). Marianne, the correct term is ‘pissed off’ :smiley:

(cheesy) #229

[QUOTE=blindman100;392516]jesus christ, you peeps think et is going away?
that the issue with young people today, if they cant have something their way at the click of a mouse, it isnt worth doing, no wonder this world is going to hell.
bottom line is it only dies if we let it.[/QUOTE]

Will it die 100% ? No.

How does 90% dead sound?

Its simple math dude. No list (hosted by id) most players go bye bye, regardless of any 3rd party lists.

Here is a recap of me chatting with random players.

Me: Did you get the new master list installed
Player 1: HuH???

Me: The master server list is down, you need to install the new one
Player 2: Que? Habla espanol?

Me: Hey, players, get the new master list from ****.com
Players: ignore

Me via xfire: Hey where have you been?
Player via xfire: ET dont work any more on my pc, I gave up and uninstalled it

Me via xfire: hey where has MarKus been?
Player via xfire: He says the list dont work so he connects to F|A cos he has their menu

and so on…

The only reason I have any players at all is because of our menus, that is how they are coming back.

The bottom line is we lose 90% of the community unless id allows that new master list be included in their downloadable, and all the mirrors out there get it also.

THAT…is what needs to happen. Will it? Probably not.

(pazur) #230

Just fired up my W:ET and noticed the issue. Read about it in a Facebook post by Splashdamage, but it’s still occuring? … a bit long IMHO

(Qmm) #231

Ooooh :open_mouth:
when we see servers :open_mouth: ???
idsoftware is finally doing something for it :)…

Pinging etmaster.idsoftware.com [192.246.40.60] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.246.40.60: bytes=32 time=161ms TTL=44
Reply from 192.246.40.60: bytes=32 time=161ms TTL=44
Reply from 192.246.40.60: bytes=32 time=161ms TTL=44
Reply from 192.246.40.60: bytes=32 time=164ms TTL=44

Ping statistics for 192.246.40.60:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 161ms, Maximum = 164ms, Average = 161ms

(Domagoj) #232

[QUOTE=Qmm;392597]Ooooh :open_mouth:
when we see servers :open_mouth: ???
idsoftware is finally doing something for it :)…

Pinging etmaster.idsoftware.com [192.246.40.60] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.246.40.60: bytes=32 time=161ms TTL=44
Reply from 192.246.40.60: bytes=32 time=161ms TTL=44
Reply from 192.246.40.60: bytes=32 time=161ms TTL=44
Reply from 192.246.40.60: bytes=32 time=164ms TTL=44

Ping statistics for 192.246.40.60:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 161ms, Maximum = 164ms, Average = 161ms[/QUOTE]

dunno what it means :D, but if they started doing smthing, thats great!

(Smurfer) #233

This was already reported back on page 9. Nothing new has happened.

(Qmm) #234

It means masterserver did turn from unreachable to reachable… :slight_smile:
but cant see servers yet…

Masterserver was unreachable long time… it wasnt answering to ping etmaster.idsoftware.com…
But now it seems ping it quite well :slight_smile:

(Qmm) #235

:slight_smile: okey maybe i didnt read that one :D! but its still good news…

(hunterthebest) #236

It would be good news if the put the masterlist backup : You just let us see that the server where they should ‘host’ it is online. :wink:

(Domagoj) #237

well step by step, i hope we can expect master server list also up soon :smiley:

(yishayyy) #238

its works to me with the old master server list so its fixed?

(Mateos) #239

Here nothing…

(Domagoj) #240

doesnt work here…