The Truth about Cheating in ET

(Depth_Charge) #81

Well couldn’t someone just change the name of the admin cheat mod to be shrub? So it is called shrub but isnt?

(ouroboro) #82

as of 5 minutes ago, bio doesn’t check m_pitch with pb. whether they force it with etpro or not, i dunno. it’s always full but i’ll test that later…

…confirmed, they force it with etpro. disregard what i said and sorry for the misinformation, i hadn’t been there in a long time so i wasn’t aware of the forced cvars. great to see (if only i pinged it better :()

(Kerunch) #83

Dont seem to post much these days!!!But nicely done guys :drink:

(Kendle) #84

Simple answer, I don’t know.

However, if you went on a Shrub server that wasn’t, I’d hope you’d soon notice. The source code for Shrub isn’t available so the hacker would have to be damn clever and go to a whole lot of trouble to make a mod that looked like Shrub but wasn’t.

(SCDS_reyalP) #85

Well, thats not exactly true. The old RTCW FPS scripts don’t work. However, nothing prevents one from either scripting, or using external code (i.e part of a multihack) that moves your mouse down by the correct amount after firing a recoil weapon.

I’m pretty sure that such things have been attempted, but I don’t know how effective they are.

Note that most etpro servers running league-ish settings will now just use etpro cvar restrictions, rather than pb.

@ouroboro
You certainly could make a ‘cheater’ qagame. You could do it in such a way that the fs_game didn’t give at away either (you could put it in etmain), and no downloads would be required, since qagame is not needed on the client. As rain pointed out, doing it for something other than etmain would be rather hard, because you would have to emulate shrub or etpro. But in general, preventing admins from cheating is much harder. They can do various things with optional .pk3s (such as skinpacks) as well.

However, IMO, the number of cheaters is pretty small, and most of them don’t have the resources to run a server.

(ouroboro) #86

SCDS_reyalP: thanks. while you said it’s probably rare, i’m afraid i’m a bit more pessimistic. not to the ironman level but…

when you said most cheaters don’t have the means to run a server you may be right, but that doesn’t mean some server admins don’t have the propensity to become cheaters…

well let’s just say if i had a server and knew i could fix it so only my aim was better than everyone elses, and not possibly get caught? let’s say it would be tempting…

definately something to be aware of, but all the more reason to stick with etpro :slight_smile:

(SCDS_reyalP) #87

Well, you also have to have the technical capability to do it, and you need to make your server popular enough for it to be worthwhile. Most servers are empty, most of the time.

The portion of people who 1) know C 2) run a server 3) want to cheat has to be pretty small.

Furthermore, if you compete, it would be really stupid, because you would de-train yourself for matches on other servers.

BTW, if you are worried about malicious server admins, there are far worse things they can do than cheating in a video game.

(Kendle) #88

Thanks for all the feedback guys. I’m off on holiday for a week so probably won’t be updating this thread till I get back. GL, HF and be safe! :smiley:

(Oxygen - o2) #89

have a good one, drink lots of :beer:

(Rain) #90

'tis fixed in etpro. It happens when the person firing is outside of your PVS. In ET 2.55, the weapon the player had when last in PVS will be used for the hit effects, too, so if someone had a panzer, went out of your PVS, and then respawned with an MG42 and started firing in your general direction (while still outside your PVS), you’d see a beautiful display of 20 panzer explosions/second.

:banana:

(bani) #91

it’s a side effect of network latency.

(HITMAN007) #92

Mapping Tolls XD

(ouroboro) #93

found this link on a cheater page, it appears to show some form of automatic aiming for the mortar. it looks like the player is able to press keys and snap to the next set of coordinates. nothing is confirmed and nothing else is known, just posting for your information. somebody should save it for kendle in case it goes down. open the map while you watch the demo:

http://demos.localhost.co.nz/et/mortarbot.dm_83

(Red|Cell) #94

there is a mortar bot that lets u set different coordinates on a map then u can switch between them by pressing a key.

(Chappy) #95

Perhaps you could include info on the hitsounds feature of ETPro? It’s very easy to target enemies at long range using hitsounds to sort of probe for enemies (maybe obscured by tree branches or grass) and find the head. I’ve been accused of aimbotting twice by diff people on diff servers for taking advantage of this.

(Oxygen - o2) #96

no, use it as an advantage, if they complain they just look like idiots

(bani) #97

you dont need hitsounds to probe, you can do this even on etmain.

if you miss your target, you’ll see a tracer. if you hit a target, you won’t see a tracer.

(Java.Lang) #98

Also, bani failed to mention this, but if you hit your target, you’ll see dead people.

(Oxygen - o2) #99

no they might just get knocked out a little and still be alive

([!]Icon) #100

Is that a new feature in ET pro 3 java?