Team auto-balance? huh, does it even exist??

(Sorotia) #41

Except for balancing their numbers between teams?

That’s the point of balancing - to make both teams equally strong by means of both strong and bad teammates number[/quote]

Except no? Like I said in my last post there will be no such thing as balance it’s impossible to have any balance unless you’re playing a perfect game with balanced mercs and teams of people who mesh well together.

You aren’t going to get any of that in pubs…even if the teams were well balanced stat wise that doesn’t mean they will do well…the team may not mesh well or something no matter what wants to play their assault merc or wants to play their Fletcher offensively instead of healing or engineering…

Or one team’s comp may just be a lot better than the other…having 3 Skyhammer and a Arty on defense in Chapel may just outdo the team you’re running with 1 engineer that your opposition is focusing on.

There are way to many variables to consider for their ever to be any kind of true balance without the game being premade pretty much.

(GatoCommodore) #42

[quote=“Owyn;c-218790”][quote=“sweetColumn;c-218767”]http://i.imgur.com/MqF7cwH.png

@MidnightButterSweats so winning is not fun?[/quote]

Pshhh… I’ve got the best tactic for you - join spectator team from the start, wait for last few sec before the game ends - join the winning team - MAXIMUM FUN and no complains about auto-balance :wink: [/quote]

yeah no thats called being an ass.

or maybe just remove the gun mechanic and damage so nobody dies and nobody whines to shuffle huh?

(Nail) #43

and what about all those times that switching actually prevented people from quitting cuz of hard-stompings and 4v8 and made game fair and fun to play?

It’s like those “omg autopiloted cars actually kill 20 ppl per year, BAN EM BAN EM BAN EM!” while human-piloted cars kill about 20,000 ppl and nobody bats an eye but still talk about how autopilots dangerous and murderous[/quote]

thing is, there’s only 4 autopiloted cars and 2 billion piloted, I’ll drive myself thanks

(GatoCommodore) #44

Don’t worry, I can tell, and there’s no sense trying to explain it to you because you, simply, will not understand anything unless it agrees with you 100%, and it’s off topic at this point.

And you are a shining example of the exact problem I brought up, so please keep on keeping on.[/quote]

the shining example of the problem is…

people wanted to win

lay off the grass a bit m8

(superLobster) #45

I do feel what the OP means though, and it’s hard for players who have all the mercs/ loadouts they want to feel compassionate about the gripe. I think in the end, you have to realize that, unfortunately, it all just amounts to more and more [nearly] useless credits regardless if you win or lose.

On the same point, however, when I’m trying to take the game somewhat seriously and playing for a win (or to shut someone up talking s***) it’s so frustrating when we’re winning Execution Mode 4 rounds to 0 only to hit a team balance swap. Just because one team is losing badly does NOT always mean the game is unfair at all despite DB actually having a problem with team balance in general. Unnecessary team balance votes, IMO, are more frustrating than a seemingly “BS death”.

(Xyfurion) #46

there is one way…

[/quote]

7/5 Vote YES.

Console:
Vote to kick Player failed…

(Ferrous) #47

Auto balance would be terrible. You would constantly be switching teams. It would get confusing.

(grandioseStew) #48

IF the autobalance WILL work correctly, there will be no needs for switching teams.

(GatoCommodore) #49

there are no such thing as autobalance working “Correctly”
theres only git gud
or
not gud

(grandioseStew) #50

there are no such thing as autobalance working “Correctly”
theres only git gud
or
not gud[/quote]

Hom many nerfs like you are playing this game? Are you trying to help a game to be as good as posiible or make it good for you? outofabox. Not only from your “personal” view.

(Dr_Plantboss) #51

The sarcasm is over 9000!

I am going to reiterate everything everyone has already said!

This would be nice just to make it so that the teams are at least even, but I’ve seen 6v8 games where the team of 6 won with several minutes to spare. Autobalance isn’t going to “balance” the game, it’s just going to make the teams even.

Here’s a system that was proposed a while ago by @(iforgetwho) .
Teams are automatically counted. If one team has 2 extra players, the lowest scoring player from the larger team (probably the newest player in the match/ worst player in the match) is moved to the smaller team. it then becomes a matter of a new player joining.

Team shuffles NEED to have more votes than just the number of people on your team to not be spammed.
On the other hand, practically nobody understands what “PgUp” is.
What I think needs to be done is that there just needs to be a majority of VOTES. An abstention currently counts as a NO vote (I will fight you on this). What I propose is that there should be a minimum number of votes (1/3 the number of players on the server), a minimum number of YES votes, and that abstentions are… abstentions.
Here’s a illustration:

If you have 10 players in a match and a shuffle is called, a minimum of 4 votes must be reached, and majority of YES votes must be reached. I.E.; you still have to have a majority, but people who don’t vote aren’t an issue. If anyone on your team does not vote, there are 5 people on the enemy team to replace them.

This makes voting “NO” essential to NOT passing a shuffle.

[center]A personal note to @Owyn [/center]

I have been seeing a lot of your threads on forums, and have noticed that all of them are bashing Dirty Bomb and saying that pretty much everything about the game needs to be reworked. All that I want to say is go back to Reddit, the Land of Crying Babies maybe you shouldn’t be playing Dirty Bomb if you don’t enjoy it.

Also, stop flagging people for abuse and spam when you don’t like what they say.

(OwynTyler) #52

You know balance isn’t just the number of players on each team but a chance of winning for both of the teams

[quote=“Dr_Plantboss;c-219673”]
I have been seeing a lot of your threads on forums, and have noticed that all of them are bashing Dirty Bomb and saying that pretty much everything about the game needs to be reworked. All that I want to say is go back to Reddit, the Land of Crying Babies maybe you shouldn’t be playing Dirty Bomb if you don’t enjoy it.

Also, stop flagging people for abuse and spam when you don’t like what they say.[/quote]

Oh sorry, just ass-kissing isn’t in my mentality, why would I create a thread about how good something is and that it should stay like that? - that makes no sense

Ofc If I like the game I’d like it to get better and prosper

P.S. - I flag only abusive comments with the reason “abuse”, nothing personal, just wanting to make the forum cleaner without all this ad hominem and abuse.

(GatoCommodore) #53

@Owyn
https://archive.nyafuu.org/foolfuuka/boards/vp/image/1456/58/1456581256461.jpg

(Dr_Plantboss) #54

It’s not the fact that you are making a thread about something that you want changed, it’s about the attitude you have when you’re talking about what you want to be changed.

None the comments on this thread right now are abusing or spam.

INCLUDING THIS ONE

Just because the person disagrees with you it isn’t serious or directly related to your post doesn’t mean that it’s abuse.

(GatoCommodore) #55

@Owyn if you have something to be talked about, go post proof.

if you claim something is wrong go post proof

you cant say theres a wolf and when we see theres no wolf you know what happens to the kid?

people will call him a liar

(OwynTyler) #56

[quote=“sweetColumn;c-219751”]@Owyn if you have something to be talked about, go post proof.

if you claim something is wrong go post proof

you cant say theres a wolf and when we see theres no wolf you know what happens to the kid?

people will call him a liar[/quote]

Are you seaying that team-balance issue is non-existent? Do you think stomping is a myth? lol? :expressionless:

as you wish:
i.imgur.com/ZpyhFHK.jpg
i.imgur.com/Z6FgjJk.jpg

It’s not the fact that you are making a thread about something that you want changed, it’s about the attitude you have when you’re talking about what you want to be changed.[/quote]

you mean my… non ass-kissing attitude? B)

[quote=“Dr_Plantboss;c-219739”]

None the comments on this thread right now are abusing or spam.

INCLUDING THIS ONE

Just because the person disagrees with you it isn’t serious or directly related to your post doesn’t mean that it’s abuse.[/quote]
You should listen to yourself :wink:

P.S. - I smell something burning (like 4 meals burning) after I said that it’s not actually personal from my side unlike you guys.

(Dr_Plantboss) #57

Ours isn’t personal, we just want to flag the ACTUAL person who is abusing for abuse.
Flagging people for abuse for a post like THIS:
[spoiler][quote=“sweetColumn;c-219696”]@Owyn
https://archive.nyafuu.org/foolfuuka/boards/vp/image/1456/58/1456581256461.jpg[/quote][/spoiler]
That post is in no way abusive, and you reporting it for abuse IS abusive.

I ask you tell me what your thought process was when you flagged that post, in as much detail as possible.

P.S. You aren’t ass-kissing. You’re dick-sucking.

(OwynTyler) #58


LOL :smiley:

[quote=“Dr_Plantboss;c-219739”]
It’s not the fact that you are making a thread about something that you want changed, it’s about the attitude you have when you’re talking about what you want to be changed.[/quote]

So you wouldn’t want something to be fixed\implemented just because you don’t like someones attitude or just someone?

  • I’m actually relieved that you’re not a develeport of this game.
(GatoCommodore) #59

monsieur @Owyn

after examining 2 of the “proof” you provided ive come to these conclusion

the execution one was in that state because:

3 of the enemy team quits, new 3 player just joined,
conclusion: quitters ruins game balance

the stopwatch one also identical:
the rest of your team ran away leaving only 2 left in the team
conclusion: quitters ruins game balance

do you think if people quit its the game’s fault for not making the team has the same chance of winning for both side?

when people quit its their own fault they dont want to give it their all.
do you think that level 59 didnt suffer losses before?
do you think that level 59 never been left by his team when he was a noob too?

you think having a skill is instant like call of duty 2 bullets kill hit anywhere?

if your team quits, blame them, not the game. If other people has more experience, you learn from them, dont blame them. They go thru the same kind of experience like this before, maybe they even rant about “team balance” in the forum too when they were still level 10.

the thing that differs this game with others is this game is hard, and thats kind of different than call of duty and battlefield or even overwatch.

if you still think matchmaking is broken or shuffle is shite go take a look at paladin, overwatch, battlefield 1 matchmaking.

people
just
dont
wanna
learn

(DirtyDav) #60

wtf is goin’ on in this thread…

If you’re losing and you’re getting salty, leave, it’s not that fucking hard. Not every game is going to be stacked against you. And a lotta the time, it’s just a case of get good, because that really does help. Not to brag or anything, but I haven’t gotten a single negative KD in months because I know how to play the game. Every match you play is a learning experience, and unless they’re hacking or lagging like shit (and it’s not an SA server), there’s nothing to complain about.