So why the heck is Splash Damage so quiet on news?

(Weyoun) #41

But you have taken into account that BO is out for a couple of months now and even though it has less player than the MordernWarfail2 crap…it is still miles ahead of Brink.

I’m honest and expected a bigger playerbase. Heck, I remember the first months of ET:QW and afair the playercount was 20k + (correct me if I’m wrong). So it is a huge difference.

I desperately want SD and this game to succeed. And so I’m no hater but more a lover. And thus I’m disappointed by the current silence and the fact that the no-sound-bug even got into final release.

They have their hands full to patch all versions of the game. But concerning the PR before release (ready early etc.) it feels not SD worthy at all.

(Ghostdog) #42

[QUOTE=StillBatusBrad;317001]To answer the OP’s question, it’s simple:

Grumbling is one thing and they can just let us chunter on, but if they post, claim or promise ANYTHING that they can’t, or in our perception don’t, actually deliver, word would be all over the net in no time flat.

As a result, they’ll not comment in print until they’re certain of what they can fix and have a firm patch-list on it’s way to certification with M$. We’ll get no news until it’s a done deal.[/QUOTE]

Actually that does make sense.

However one thing that puzzles me is the complete lack of response on the Steam forums to threads asking when it’s going to to become available in the UK again (it was removed from the UK Steam store on release day without any explanation). This has generated all kinds of speculation.

(Runeforce) #43

If 6 months of continued devolopment after release and 4 major patches is “left to wither on the vine” then, sure, your are correct.

(dazman76) #44

I’m still genuinely amazed by this. I know lots of people would have pre-ordered it, and therefore had no problems. I also appreciate that lots of players would have bought it from retail stores - and the TV ads are always connected to one store or another. But the market for Steam sales in the UK is still huge - and now we’re 1 whole week after the release, and it still isn’t there?

I can see why this is generating speculation - Steam releases often get screwed up in one way or another, but surely no technical hitch could keep a game off the UK store for a whole week? That’s a large amount of potential sales lost. The mind really does boggle - I’m usually not one for conspiracy theories, but something certainly isn’t right there.

(zenstar) #45

[QUOTE=dazman76;317221]I’m still genuinely amazed by this. I know lots of people would have pre-ordered it, and therefore had no problems. I also appreciate that lots of players would have bought it from retail stores - and the TV ads are always connected to one store or another. But the market for Steam sales in the UK is still huge - and now we’re 1 whole week after the release, and it still isn’t there?

I can see why this is generating speculation - Steam releases often get screwed up in one way or another, but surely no technical hitch could keep a game off the UK store for a whole week? That’s a large amount of potential sales lost. The mind really does boggle - I’m usually not one for conspiracy theories, but something certainly isn’t right there.[/QUOTE]
The only thing I can think of is that not so long ago the “brick and mortar” stores in the UK were crying because Steam was taking all their PC customers. To the point that they wanted to boycott Steam games. Maybe (and this is complete guesswork and conspiricay theory bull, not to be taken seriously) Steam is letting them have a big release exclusively for a while to stop them throwing their toys out of their cot.

The funny thing is that the brick and mortar stores hardly ever cater to the PC crowd anyway. Giant console displays with dancing girls and magic fairy dust and the PC gamers get a tiny coner covered in dust with games that were made by cavemen and when you get close a feral badger tries to bite you.

If this is the case (and that’s a massive if) then I think it’s time PC gamers start boycotting these stores. Luckily I preordered from steam and unlocked as normal on release.

(dazman76) #46

It’s an interesting thought, but D2D are also selling Brink - so if people were going to buy on Steam but couldn’t, D2D would probably be next in line - slightly ahead of download versions from GAME and other traditional retailers, I’d assume. I doubt Valve would want to knowingly give away sales to satan… I mean IGN. God knows - I’ve tried to come up with a reason that makes sense, and I honestly can’t :slight_smile: The fact that badman stated that Bethesda knew about the problem, then all went silent - well, it does point to something slightly fishy going on.

(Brink Lags) #47

[QUOTE=Bakercompany;316741]I don’t fault them for lag at all. I bet they fix it perfectly too, that i’m not worried about at all.

If you don’t have the money to beta test a game, you don’t have it. It’s that simple I don’t fault devs for lack of funding.[/QUOTE]

If you can’t afford to beta test a game thats COMPLETELY ONLINE, then don’t get into the business of making online video games.

Its real simple.

If you can’t figure out a way to make a lobby for a console game, then don’t get into the business of making FPS console video games.

Its real simple.

(zenstar) #48

Agreed with the D2D thing, except you know how people fixate on a single company / object. For example DOOM was turning children into mass murderers at a time when it was woefully outdated and there were millions of other similar games out there.
When I heard / read the online vs physical sales QQ they were fixating on Steam. And I heard reports (I didn’t bother to confirm since I had the preorder) that all the online stores weren’t selling for a short time in the UK (including D2D).
Again: this is completely anecdotal heresay from me. It makes a pretty story and I’d love to be proven right just so I could say “I told you so :P” but I can really think of no other reason why the game is on sale here but the steam page is down and noone is fixing it.
There must be some sort of trade agreement that blocks Steam from selling it at the moment. If this makes it difficult for me to purchase any DLC in the future then I will be very upset.

(yoomazir) #49

“So why the heck is Splash Damage so quiet on news?”

probably because they have entered in “firing squad” mode now, the real question is to know if they are going to fire the good elements or the bad elements.

just joking…
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not really…

(amazinglarry) #50

[QUOTE=jazevec;316951]How can you be so sure ? From Splash Damage’s own website:

One month after releasing Wolfenstein: Enemy territory they already worked on two projects - ETQ:QW and DooM III maps. Do you think they spent a lot of time fixing W:ET ?
ET:QW was released 4 years later, in september 2007. They unveiled ET:QW when it was already 2 years old.

Now I can’t find any information when they started developing Brink. But the game’s release is exactly 4 years (again!) after the previous one. Expect Splash Damage to announce their new project in 2013, with release in 2015.[/QUOTE]

I don’t understand why it matters when they began production on new games. Of course they’re going to start on a new project as soon as one is completed. Do you really think they need ARTISTS and those type of company assets to continue supporting Brink full time until it’s 100% completed? SD along with most companies are made up of a lot of different parts. I wouldn’t be surprised if the concepts etc for their next IP has already been in development for a while.

However, what I meant was, they continued rolling out support for ET and QW long after their initial release, with patches, balances, etc. The end is not nigh. They will continue supporting Brink. They will fix the major issues. They make games they want to play. It’s just how they roll. Yeah, I know I sound pretty gushing about them, but there’s a reason this place has been a second home for me for a near decade.

(Ragoo) #51

They wait until the SDK is ready. Then, suddenly: BOOM! Everything is fixed at once.

Expect this to happen within the next week or I am going mad :smiley:

(Bakercompany) #52

[QUOTE=Ragoo;317755]They wait until the SDK is ready. Then, suddenly: BOOM! Everything is fixed at once.

Expect this to happen within the next week or I am going mad :D[/QUOTE]

For PC guys…

(Nail) #53

One month after releasing Wolfenstein: Enemy territory they already worked on two projects - ETQ:QW and DooM III maps. Do you think they spent a lot of time fixing W:ET ?

actually , yes, they released 3 patches, the last in 2005, 2 years later, on a free game

(blargo) #54

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I’m super serial.

(wolfnemesis75) #55

[QUOTE=Zekariah;316870]Drop the condescending.

I knew the game would be ONLY objective based. But i would have hoped there may have been some missions with both offensive AND defensive roles for both teams.

I’m not bringing TDM into this because I don’t want it either. It’s why I followed this game in the first place.[/QUOTE]

There is offensive AND defensive roles. Its called Scoreboard mode, right?

There’s Objective or Scoreboard.

(asmo) #56

3 pages of “why you dont talk to me”.

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do something constructive and learn this while waiting for updates :wink:

(kamikazee) #57

Notice for the topic starter:

[QUOTE=Dopaminergic;316487][ul]
[li]Keep checking multiple times a day for news updates from SD. Constantly disappointed to find nothing.
[/li][/ul][/QUOTE]There’s a news thread about upcoming patches; expect the patches somewhere next week when they are approved by QA and PR.

(Dopaminergic) #58

[QUOTE=asmo;319109]3 pages of “why you dont talk to me”.

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do something constructive and learn this while waiting for updates ;-)[/QUOTE]

I already know how to play that song by memory on piano.

Stop defending a bad company producing a bad game with bad communication and lack of poilish.

Are you in denial or something? This games sucks. And I don’t see how you could think otherwise if you knew anything about video games and have experience playing games that are actually GOOD. Other GOOD companies keep their player base updated. This company is garbage.

So, tl;dr, go away Brink Defense Force.

(asmo) #59

[QUOTE=Dopaminergic;319203]I already know how to play that song by memory on piano.

Stop defending a bad company producing a bad game with bad communication and lack of poilish.

Are you in denial or something? This games sucks. And I don’t see how you could think otherwise if you knew anything about video games and have experience playing games that are actually GOOD. Other GOOD companies keep their player base updated. This company is garbage.
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i didn’t stated my oppinion for now yet. i don’t say this game suck or this game is good because it’s no time for it yet, at least for me.

I was waiting for Brink game since it got announced. I can wait little more for patch. Once it’s out, i will write what i think but for now i have fun reading peoples who like and dislike the game, with some folks i agree but… my word doesn’t count anyway so i just wait for the patch, as i said.

So, tl;dr, go away Brink Defense Force.

hey, maybe lets play the piano in duel ? :slight_smile:

(KAS--Will) #60

[QUOTE=Dopaminergic;319203]I already know how to play that song by memory on piano.

Stop defending a bad company producing a bad game with bad communication and lack of poilish.

Are you in denial or something? This games sucks. And I don’t see how you could think otherwise if you knew anything about video games and have experience playing games that are actually GOOD. Other GOOD companies keep their player base updated. This company is garbage.

So, tl;dr, go away Brink Defense Force.[/QUOTE]

First of all… why the hell do you know how to play that by memory on piano? Are you gay or just emo?

Secondly, Splash Damage did not produce BRINK, they developed it, yes there’s actually a difference.

Thirdly, if this game sucks; why in Gods name are you on (not only) the games forums but also the developers forums, bashing the game? If I had a nickle for how many “bad games” I’ve bought, rather than just wait out or read reviews, I would have so much money I would refund you 6 times for BRINK. And on that note:

What makes a Good game company? What makes a good game? Seeing you bashing BRINK makes me think anything Gameloft releases (they make games that are almost completely identical to successful games, nothing innovative) is a good game… or in other words anything that rips off another game, or has to do with “modern warfare”, ETC ETC.

I really want to know though, in as sophisticated conversation as possible, what makes a good game in your opinion. While your at it, tell me some of your favorite games.