According to what i heard (maybe someone mention this before), because of this game still in beta, SD will focus on map, mode, mercs, or etc, but not the anti-cheater program. However, they will solve this issue once this game is really ready for everyone
(Usually, there will have a big update once this game is ready for the players )
Maybe this information isn’t correct, but at least it is a way to view this conflict.
[quote=“AlphaUT;58935”]According to what i heard (maybe someone mention this before), because of this game still in beta, SD will focus on map, mode, mercs, or etc, but not the anti-cheater program. However, they will solve this issue once this game is really ready for everyone
(Usually, there will have a big update once this game is ready for the players )
Maybe this information isn’t correct, but at least it is a way to view this conflict. [/quote]
It is not correct. It has been confirmed multiple times that better anticheat is currently in progress.
[quote=“Vexed;58956”][quote=“AlphaUT;58935”]According to what i heard (maybe someone mention this before), because of this game still in beta, SD will focus on map, mode, mercs, or etc, but not the anti-cheater program. However, they will solve this issue once this game is really ready for everyone
(Usually, there will have a big update once this game is ready for the players )
Maybe this information isn’t correct, but at least it is a way to view this conflict. [/quote]
It is not correct. It has been confirmed multiple times that better anticheat is currently in progress.[/quote]
Per Reddit, they have functioning anticheat implemented in their office and have had it for a few weeks. It’s close.
I’ve seen a few definite hackers in pub games, but mostly they are slightly less obvious about it by playing Vassili. The line between a fantastic skill sniper and a well setup aimbot is pretty thin.
I’d like to think I can spot the difference most of the times when spectating them. But I’ve been headshot regularly in very dubious circumstances. Equally I;ve been seemingly instakilled countless times with no opportunity to react.
However, how many times could it have been server lag, game glitch, network probs, netcode hiding the lag, etc? The answer is not always hacks, but with the current evidence available to players it is easy to jump to conclusions.
What I ultimately want from DB is instead of kill ghosts, I want an action replay of what the guy killing me saw for 5 seconds before he did it. If he’s tracking through walls and popping heads as soon as I come around the corner, then I’d publicly call hacks on that. If they could add a report button to that screen, it would be great, but that’ll probably be a lot of workload for them.
[quote=“DocEnglish;59109”]I’ve seen a few definite hackers in pub games, but mostly they are slightly less obvious about it by playing Vassili. The line between a fantastic skill sniper and a well setup aimbot is pretty thin.
I’d like to think I can spot the difference most of the times when spectating them. But I’ve been headshot regularly in very dubious circumstances. Equally I;ve been seemingly instakilled countless times with no opportunity to react.
However, how many times could it have been server lag, game glitch, network probs, netcode hiding the lag, etc? The answer is not always hacks, but with the current evidence available to players it is easy to jump to conclusions.
What I ultimately want from DB is instead of kill ghosts, I want an action replay of what the guy killing me saw for 5 seconds before he did it. If he’s tracking through walls and popping heads as soon as I come around the corner, then I’d publicly call hacks on that. If they could add a report button to that screen, it would be great, but that’ll probably be a lot of workload for them.[/quote]
heh, so this is funny to me. if someone plays sniper, i almost expect them to hit just about every shot they take in the head. watching snipers on spectate miss shot after shot is maddening. at that point play fragger or a medic or something lol.
basically, if you are playing vasilli on my team, i HOPE you are squeezing out those tight window headshots from a mile away (without peds of course). so a cheating vasilli would resemble a good vasili. dont forget they have the HB sensor, so they know where you are
I’ve only run into a handful of players that were hacking, and it’s sad because I think of all the people who are legit, and get hackusations on a nearly weekly basis.
No, it’s rampant. In public servers at least.
Every other case ive watched closely and have simply seen a solid player thats good at aiming and experienced with the game.
Solid player who’s good at aiming doesn’t score killshots to head from every range in a way you cannot even react to it.
Even if you catch them first they turn around and you’re dead.
And I’m not talking about only myself, they can hack anyone down.
Usually the killratios are something like 15/3, 13/2 etc.
They often play Skyhammer or even Arty.
I know good shot when I see one, but it has gotten to the point of being ridiculous.
Haven’t played that much competitive yet so cannot talk about that one yet.
[quote=“inventiveSparrow;59190”]No, it’s rampant. In public servers at least.
Every other case ive watched closely and have simply seen a solid player thats good at aiming and experienced with the game.
Solid player who’s good at aiming doesn’t score killshots to head from every range in a way you cannot even react to it.
Even if you catch them first they turn around and you’re dead.
And I’m not talking about only myself, they can hack anyone down.
Usually the killratios are something like 15/3, 13/2 etc.
They often play Skyhammer or even Arty.
I know good shot when I see one, but it has gotten to the point of being ridiculous.
Haven’t played that much competitive yet so cannot talk about that one yet.
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Headshots = hacks now. There is spectating for a reason, and if they are missing a lot of shots they are usually not hacking (aimbotting, wallhacking is a different story), sure an aimbotter can miss a few shots, but a full out aimbotter will usually only miss shots where the gun accuracy is involved, or if they are moving really fast, like an aura sprinting and walljumping. Don’t just assume that getting headshots or a lot of kills makes them a hacker, look at how they play the game.
[quote=“ludicrousBlast;59274”]Headshots = hacks now. [/quote]Did I say that?
If you’re moving fast or person is moving or turns around every one of the shots cannot be headshots without aimbot. Period.
If they automatically find your head every time there’s definately something more than “good aiming” involved.
[quote=“ludicrousBlast;59274”] Don’t just assume that getting headshots or a lot of kills makes them a hacker, look at how they play the game. [/quote]I am.
Because the game is fast, you can jump and you can take multiple shots, it’s rather obvious if you don’t have even time to react when you die from headshots that it’s aimbotting.
You can example quite quickly learn how much damage you can take from full health and how fast in the game “normally”. But when it happens so fast, you know each of those shots were delivered to the head area. When people continuosly are downed like flies it’s more than suspicious.
In public servers there are more these hackers than probably many would like to admit.
I have never assumed anything.
Nope, there are still cheaters; I think they’re mostly in competitive… I haven’t noticed any on normal servers. Just got out of a competitive match with 2! blatant cheaters. I was playing fragger and got deleted in a second, multiple headshots to the face…
Looked up their steam profiles and surprise, surprise…
4 VAC bans combined, one less than 5 days ago.
I reported them on Steam, why is it not possible to add a report function ingame? I’m staying away from competitive for now… it’s just no fun at the moment
A more recent variant I’ve noticed is the awful player who spends half the game looking at the floor, but becomes godlike as soon as they ADS and can perfectly track the velocity of every tiny sidestep, hop, and duck with pin-point precision and never miss a shot. Must be all those hours in COD!
From what I’ve seen recently these people tend to fly under the radar unless there is someone like me about who can be bothered spectating.
[quote=“inventiveSparrow;59298”][quote=“ludicrousBlast;59274”]Headshots = hacks now. [/quote]Did I say that?
If you’re moving fast or person is moving or turns around every one of the shots cannot be headshots without aimbot. Period.
If they automatically find your head every time there’s definately something more than “good aiming” involved.
[quote=“ludicrousBlast;59274”] Don’t just assume that getting headshots or a lot of kills makes them a hacker, look at how they play the game. [/quote]I am.
Because the game is fast, you can jump and you can take multiple shots, it’s rather obvious if you don’t have even time to react when you die from headshots that it’s aimbotting.
You can example quite quickly learn how much damage you can take from full health and how fast in the game “normally”. But when it happens so fast, you know each of those shots were delivered to the head area. When people continuosly are downed like flies it’s more than suspicious.
In public servers there are more these hackers than probably many would like to admit.
I have never assumed anything.
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Locking on to peoples head’s is a different story. And you did not specify whether you were spectating them or not.
[quote=“avidCow;59327”]A more recent variant I’ve noticed is the awful player who spends half the game looking at the floor, but becomes godlike as soon as they ADS and can perfectly track the velocity of every tiny sidestep, hop, and duck with pin-point precision and never miss a shot. Must be all those hours in COD!
From what I’ve seen recently these people tend to fly under the radar unless there is someone like me about who can be bothered spectating.[/quote]
That’s an aimbot that is only active when ADS. It’s pretty common.
It look hilarious when it gets tangled up amongst several people hopping about at once.
I like this thread. It’s not overblown.
Last game I played, we had an aura called REMOVED solo’ing 3-5 people at a time with pistol. He got a 17k+ score in the game, and did nothing to support his team (revives, etc).
Game before that REMOVED cranked his up (aimbotting/rate of fire increase), and then proceeded to say how bad the anti cheat was and how he was going to make money on selling his hacks. His buddy REMOVED also went superman on a game they where losing in the last few minutes.
This is in normal, non competitive objective mode.
I spent more time reporting people then playing in an hour and a half. The people who don’t hit many should try playing at prime time, or maybe open their eyes a little more.
The good ones are the ones that are the ones who skate between good/hacking, but die enough keep their score in check enough to not give them away.
So I’d have to say ya, cheating in this game is a little bit of a problem atm.
@mellowCover I removed the names in your post. This forum has a strict no naming and shaming policy. Please report you believe to be cheating to https://support-dirtybomb.nexon.net/hc/en-us
Also, tonight, I had 5 people on a server convinced I was cheating…with Arty (the F??). The paranoia of people cheating is pretty high right now.
I’ve played 260+ hours in the game and about 15ish comp games. I see a cheater maybe once every 30-40 public games?
I haven’t seen anyone cheat in comp, even at placement level. But I cleared the placement stage right before open beta.
I did get placed with some really good players in the end. To a new player who JUST hit level 5, those players would have felt like cheaters. So I think a lot of it is overblown, even in comp.
Unless all the cheaters live in min-level 5 servers and in placement comp matches? I have a really hard time finding them.
[quote=“Amerika;59472”]
Also, tonight, I had 5 people on a server convinced I was cheating…with Arty (the F??). The paranoia of people cheating is pretty high right now.[/quote]
well this has always been the problem, perception matters a lot more than reality, this is why SD’s total silence and lack of action is such a bad thing , you may recall my post when i quit playing over this situation (you closed it and i saw your point and didnt mind) but that final straw was running into the guy i reported first , now this was a no doubt case, he was full on instant headshotting everyone like bot on max, he was also admitting in chat laughing at sd for doing nothing and spamming the url to buy it. well 6 weeks later i run into the guy again and rage out
added in i think people are (very slowly) realising you simply can not tell a well set up bot by spectating these days, there too well built seriously have you looked into the ones out there and the parameters you can set up? with smooth aiming limiting it to body shots and keeping the angle down low they look just like a skilled player.
now i saw a total of 5 definite no argument bots over 160 hours in game. but having watched a well set up bot on youtube and the dirty cups competition thats meant to feature some of the better players. the sheer volume of people you run into in game that make them look frankly amateurish is an odd thing. then theres the hackers website which a simple two word google search will bring you to , it looks like a well maintained professional site they have proper payment methods and seem to be a real company from the limited digging i can do , they must have a edcent revenue. so people must be buying it.
so are those 5 i can be sure about all i have ever met? or are half of those good players i see in every game using a bot to some degree? and im seeing 2 in every game?
thats the thing i cant tell or know. so how can i have any confidence in it given the other anecdotal evidence.