Show K/D ratio during match, not just after - As well as Headshots

(Ghosthree3) #61

And because of that they’ll get more points than someone who can only kill things. Your point?

(wittyChicken) #62

Probably that K/D is a bad measure of skill.

(Ghosthree3) #63

Probably that K/D is a bad measure of skill.
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But the scoreboard is ranked in terms of K/D so…?

And I wouldn’t call it a bad measure of skill.

(toolboxPlanet) #64

While I can see the allure in wanting to know how you are performing in a match, I think I’ll have to go with everyone else on this one.

Generally I play the objective while not caring about if I die or not (because LOL Proxy). Most the time I end up towards the top of my team but negative on K/D. Also if I’m getting salty I know my K/D is in the crapper. If I’m not feeling salty, I at least know I’m having a good time.

(Gwarh) #65

People will tdm no matter what game it is, it’s the same thing in TF2 and even Counter Strike.

People will complain and say things like “but I got so many kills!”, well that’s great but you didn’t defuse or plant a single fucking bomb you twat.

Currently though the best way to score the most points in a match IS by Killing the enemy. That’s why most of the time a Fragger or a Skyhammer leads the score board at match end.

I would love it if objectives and supporting (ammo and heals/revives) gave more points, but as the game stands currently Kills are where it’s at for big scores.

(Gwarh) #66

[quote=“toolboxPlanet;36229”]While I can see the allure in wanting to know how you are performing in a match, I think I’ll have to go with everyone else on this one.
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My goal/hope for seeing the K/D during a match was to aid in catching hackers in the act. As when you see someone with an outrageous K/D far in excess of anyone else you could pop into spectator and watch them

If their K/D said 9/10 but with 15000 pts then they must be an objective/repairing/ammo dropping/revivin machine.

(Amerika) #67

[quote=“Gwarh;36412”][quote=“toolboxPlanet;36229”]While I can see the allure in wanting to know how you are performing in a match, I think I’ll have to go with everyone else on this one.
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My goal/hope for seeing the K/D during a match was to aid in catching hackers in the act. As when you see someone with an outrageous K/D far in excess of anyone else you could pop into spectator and watch them

If their K/D said 9/10 but with 15000 pts then they must be an objective/repairing/ammo dropping/revivin machine.

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You don’t catch hackers, “in the act” by looking at K/D. You go by being unsure whether or not a guy is legit due to something that happened. I typically figure out pretty quickly if a guy is aimbotting or triggerbotting due to how I’m hit and how fast I go down. If somebody melts me with a machine pistol a couple of times in a row in situations where I intentionally moved in a manner that would make it hard to hit me I get suspicious. I then go to spec and start recording the person. That usually tells the story.

I know it’s human nature to try and simplify everything but you simply can’t go off of K/D to spot a cheater. Myself and numerous others have many many screenshots and videos of us pulling off ridiculous scores in between our usually way above average efforts. Each one of these people would be labeled a cheater using what you propose. This game could use more vigilant people who know what to do to spot a cheater rather than rely on a system that simply promotes an accusatory environment that is as bad for the game as actual cheaters.

(Szakalot) #68

[quote=“Gwarh;36411”]

People will tdm no matter what game it is, it’s the same thing in TF2 and even Counter Strike.

People will complain and say things like “but I got so many kills!”, well that’s great but you didn’t defuse or plant a single fucking bomb you twat.

Currently though the best way to score the most points in a match IS by Killing the enemy. That’s why most of the time a Fragger or a Skyhammer leads the score board at match end.

I would love it if objectives and supporting (ammo and heals/revives) gave more points, but as the game stands currently Kills are where it’s at for big scores.[/quote]

not really. Blowing up a main objective is worth 8-10 frags. Repairing EV is worth round 4-5 frags in terms of XP.

The main reason fragging people gives you a lot of XP is associated badges. Triples, quads, aces, killing sprees and assists all give multiple badges that often comprise ~50% of your total XP.

Should such badges be included for support and game xp, we would easily see objective players dominate the scoreboards.

(watsyurdeal) #69

Don’t we already have a medal for getting a ton of revives? And what about Mission Possible?

(pnellesen) #70

Yeah - I’ve gotten badges for 5 Revives, Revive Sprees, and 10 Revives before. I assume there are badges for revives that roughly correspond to the same kill badges.

(MissMurder) #71

K/D is most likely going to stay being visible only at the end of matches. Just FYI :slight_smile:

(Kroad) #72

could you make it visible at all times for spectators at least? Would give casters more to talk about.

(sixten) #73

What has KDR got to do with an objective based game?

OP what would you call me if you joined my server and seen my KDR of 272/1 ?

CS1.6 (takes more skill than DB)

(Jojack) #74

I find these threads hilarious. If you go to the Steam Forums about half the posts seem to be about Hackers. 220 hours in game now, I’ve now run into 2 hackers. I see people accusing all the time in games and the accusations are ridiculous. Yesterday a guy was yelling and screaming that another guy was obviously a hacker and needed to be vote kicked. Finally I asked him what evidence he had and he said the “hacker” found him in an obscure place all the way across the map and killed him.

Turned out, this guy was on offense on Terminal. The “hacker” was on defense. This “obscure place all the way across the map” was the stair well that is about 20 feet from the defenders final spawn.

I don’t know what do to with people like this. They are much worse a problem for the community than hackers currently are.

(Shananuga) #75

[quote=“Jojack;36492”]I find these threads hilarious. If you go to the Steam Forums about half the posts seem to be about Hackers. 220 hours in game now, I’ve now run into 2 hackers. I see people accusing all the time in games and the accusations are ridiculous. Yesterday a guy was yelling and screaming that another guy was obviously a hacker and needed to be vote kicked. Finally I asked him what evidence he had and he said the “hacker” found him in an obscure place all the way across the map and killed him.

Turned out, this guy was on offense on Terminal. The “hacker” was on defense. This “obscure place all the way across the map” was the stair well that is about 20 feet from the defenders final spawn.

I don’t know what do to with people like this. They are much worse a problem for the community than hackers currently are. [/quote]

See . . . thats why i promote causion, I’ve only encountered 1 legit hacker so far. People are quick to judge but are often just plain stupid momentarily. I dont say there aren’t any but i would argue that there are way more false accusations then rightful reports.

could you make it visible at all times for spectators at least? Would give casters more to talk about.[/quote]

Thats an entirely different matter and shouldnt be much of a problem

Yeah - I’ve gotten badges for 5 Revives, Revive Sprees, and 10 Revives before. I assume there are badges for revives that roughly correspond to the same kill badges.

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i think revives get equivalent badges then kills. Ace is doctor for it, the rest you already mentioned. I think obj points dont have as many badges since they themselves give crazy points already. Would like to see badges for excessive dying :smiley:

We are now on page 3 and i think it is pretty clear that visible KDR in matches has way more downsides than benefits. Training/Motivation/Hackerdetection are not only arguable but can also be achieved more effectivly by other means

(piranha_3) #76

If you have K / D nobody else will play as a team, because they will think that I have good K / D and will not really play as a team. K / D here no matter what matters is victory of the team.

(piranha_3) #77

what matters you have a KD 3 or 4 and lost forever. or have good K / D and entering the server and see that his team do not have no value you will not play .then it will become the most unbalanced teams

(piranha_3) #78

I think there should be more credits the team that wins, as well as all players play as a team, only K / D makes the players play thinking about K / D which has not play as a team

(Black) #79

This is the way it should be.
Players should always be concerned about how much they are contributing to the game, not how many people they have killed.

(Gestankfaust) #80

This game seems to promote the end game. Meaning “did you win”, how did you do on the objectives, not “Dude…I got more keels than yuze”

Ima n00b…so I still dunno