Oh yeah. It actually made me appreciate the quality of the positional audio in DB that much more because it was VERY VERY apparent where the sounds were coming from but they just didn’t match-up to what I was seeing in the game. And it never quite dawned on me that everything was reversed.
Show K/D ratio during match, not just after - As well as Headshots
Gwarh1
(Gwarh)
#42
[quote=“Amerika;35540”]
My point is you can’t go off of ratio in a pub/pug. Going off of numbers alone is why there are so many accusations of cheating in this game to the point of it being pretty off-putting. Go to spec if you have doubts. Watch somebody play. If they are spinning like mad and head-shotting everyone then of course they are cheating. If they are playing extremely smart and lining up shots and putting themselves in advantageous positions the odds are they are just really good and playing against less experienced players.
I’m pretty tired of people losing, getting upset and claiming somebody is cheating right as they leave the server as if going to spec and maybe learning isn’t an option. [/quote]
It’s ok, I am tired of people saying that Hacking is a rarer than a Unicorn sighting, so were even on that.
Now I hear what you are saying but K/D ratio is still a good measuring stick as the overwhelming majority of players never go 96/4 or what have you amazing Kill/Death rounds.
Looking at stats for other FPS games in the past and currently K/D ratios higher than 2/1 are rare let alone 3/1. 10/1 is unheard of. Sure it may be the game mechanics of Dirty Bomb but simple odds make it so improbably someone would run 4 straight matches with 50/10 runs, they’d have to be willingly credulous to believe it’s legit.
Players that good are in the top 5% if not less than that skill tier. When you see 1 showing up every second match like that, the odds are astronomically against them being legitimately that good.
P.S. I’m not harping on this because I want to be “Teh L33tz” player. I know I am a thoroughly average player with probably a 1/1 KD ratio, low head shot and accuracy and 50% win rate. I care more about playing the objective and supporting my team with Heals, Revives and Ammo.
But when your getting wasted over and over and over and over again by 1 enemy Merc it makes it impossible to support your team when your dead.
So again K/D does matter, infact it matters allot.
Ardez1
(Ardez1)
#43
Spectating matters a lot more then simple K/D. If you suspect a hacker spectate them, record it and report it.
It is usually very obvious if the player is hacking if you know what to look for. If they aren’t hacking, you might be able to learn some tricks that could help you by watching them play.
watsyurdeal
(watsyurdeal)
#44
Well…I did this last night as Nader soooo…
You have to consider the skill level of the enemy team too, a team that’s terrible as a whole, skilled players will DESTROY them.
Ardez1
(Ardez1)
#45
[quote=“Watsyurdeal;35664”]Well…I did this last night as Nader soooo…
Fixed your link for you. 
Gwarh1
(Gwarh)
#46
I need to get something to record yes you are right. As there is really nothing else that will work to get them out of the game.
Ardez1
(Ardez1)
#47
Recording isn’t required, it just helps a lot. MissMurder already mentioned that in game reporting is something being worked on.
watsyurdeal
(watsyurdeal)
#49
Also, recording is only good if you spectate, that way we can see if he somehow knows where enemies are, has weird mouse movements, etc.
I mean good game sense and twitch can make up for those things…but still, there’s limits.
Deathi
(D'@athi)
#50
To be honest, imo you simply could get rid of the k/d and show just the three different xp’s.
Or you could really show the kd, the headshots, the times you got rezzed, the seconds you where in the vincinity of an objective, the points you did to repair or destroy an objective, the revives you made… did I forget something?
Hey, thinking of it, I’d really like that. Plus the ability to browse every player’s stats on a page.
Guess the k/d boys wouldn’t find that to embarrasing in an objective based game?
pnellesen
(pnellesen)
#51
[quote=“D’@athi;35689”]
Guess the k/d boys wouldn’t find that to embarrasing in an objective based game?[/quote]
No - all that matters to them is K/D. Period. And preferably with a sniper rifle. From a window as far back from the action as they can get…
That’s why I almost wish there was a TDM mode in this game, just so the guys who care about nothing but K/D can play there. But then I suspect that Objective would dwindle to a fraction of the players it has now, unfortunately.
watsyurdeal
(watsyurdeal)
#52
[quote=“PNellesen;35690”][quote=“D’@athi;35689”]
Guess the k/d boys wouldn’t find that to embarrasing in an objective based game?[/quote]
No - all that matters to them is K/D. Period. And preferably with a sniper rifle. From a window as far back from the action as they can get…
That’s why I almost wish there was a TDM mode in this game, just so the guys who care about nothing but K/D can play there. But then I suspect that Objective would dwindle to a fraction of the players it has now, unfortunately.
[/quote]
People will tdm no matter what game it is, it’s the same thing in TF2 and even Counter Strike.
People will complain and say things like “but I got so many kills!”, well that’s great but you didn’t defuse or plant a single fucking bomb you twat.
Amerika
(Amerika)
#53
[quote=“Watsyurdeal;35691”][quote=“PNellesen;35690”][quote=“D’@athi;35689”]
Guess the k/d boys wouldn’t find that to embarrasing in an objective based game?[/quote]
No - all that matters to them is K/D. Period. And preferably with a sniper rifle. From a window as far back from the action as they can get…
That’s why I almost wish there was a TDM mode in this game, just so the guys who care about nothing but K/D can play there. But then I suspect that Objective would dwindle to a fraction of the players it has now, unfortunately.
[/quote]
People will tdm no matter what game it is, it’s the same thing in TF2 and even Counter Strike.
People will complain and say things like “but I got so many kills!”, well that’s great but you didn’t defuse or plant a single fucking bomb you twat.[/quote]
Hence why we need more stats you can drill down on. Seeing contribution from other areas makes people go for those types of contributions more. If I everyone could see that I got 40 revives in a match as a medic it would be pretty awesome even if my K/D wasn’t that great.
litheJacket
(litheJacket)
#54
[quote=“Watsyurdeal;35664”]Well…I did this last night as Nader soooo…
You have to consider the skill level of the enemy team too, a team that’s terrible as a whole, skilled players will DESTROY them.[/quote]
war begin…
Derpfestor
(Derpfestor)
#55
KDR also promotes elitism which is never a good thing, I mean look at CoD for example. Heck I will even bring World of Tanks with their “Percentage of Wins” stats.
For the love of God, do not add K/D in this.
avidCow
(avidCow)
#56
The KDR farming in COD was quite ridiculous. Videos of people going 200/0 by spawn camping capture and hold maps with helicopters and whatever… :#
DMaster2
(DMaster2)
#57
Awful idea my friend, this only lead to more kicks because k/d is bad (i hate it when it happens, i always vote no even if said player suck, it’s his right to have fun). Why do people even bother in non-competitive matches?
Snark
(Snark)
#58
Definitely don’t want K/D more emphasized during the match.
The only thing that’s really lacking from the end stats is assists. I would like to see weird top player stats like most revives, lowest xp (best tapir), highest accuracy, etc. like was in earlier versions and earlier games but that’s not really important.
wittyChicken
(wittyChicken)
#59
Points > K/D.
I’ve won many matches where pretty much nobody in our team had positive K/D. Doesn’t matter how many times you die trying to secure the drug samples as long as you do it within the time limit.
winsomeCasserole
(winsomeCasserole)
#60
K/D after match is useless anyway, they should only show your support, combat and objective score and an overall score, I know players that are had at shooting people but they are the best players reviving and doing the objective.