Shotguns can be one shot kills

(DonkeyDong) #61

[QUOTE=Nail;262712]There are NO leaderboards and NO ranked servers

PCs have dedicated servers, get one and limit whatever you want

you want a “hardcore” mode, it’s been discussed for weeks

meh, “comp” players, 2% of the players, 80% of the whiners, take out this, take out that, they keep killing me and then I can’t show off my leet skillzors[/QUOTE]

Dude, no hardcore mode. Definatlely don’t confuse limitations with hardcore. Afaik hardcore also means easier kills because of increased damage or decreased health… which is the complete opposite direction as wolf, quake live, quake wars, … which is what SD should be all about, games that are more sport like vs realism and lame tactics … like cod (camp or die) which is one of my major allergies.

We don’t want to change your game, we don’t want to play with noobs like you infact

(Rex) #62

DonkeyDong is absolutely right!

(n0guns) #63

same here:)

(Jess Alon) #64

When did this whole thing turn around? Still. If a shotgun cannot hit you at distance at all, then it’s only fair that it can somewhat murder you at close range. Otherwise why even have them in the game?

(Nail) #65

"we don’t want to play with noobs like you infact "

good, find a different game
kbythnx

(trigg3r) #66

[QUOTE=Apples;262819]What is OHK already?
Its like gettin rocket spammed from 2 feet, tell me where you find the fun into that? Spam is bad, and IMO shotgun close range is ~ spam if it can kill in one shot, I like the concept and the feeling tho, but its just not a thing I would want to see in Brink.[/QUOTE]
i’m sorry, but how exactly is shooting someone at close range with a shotgun SPAM? :confused: Do you know what spam means?

About the shotguns at close range, even when i’ll probably be using them a lot 'cause they are my fav weapons, i’d still prefer if you need at least 2 shots to incapacitate your enemy

(Weapuh) #67

[QUOTE=X-Frame;262785]Not sure how removing OHK weapons like shotguns makes the room “pro” … more like they just want to remove weapons they can get killed by easily. Personal preference of the server host or friends though, that’s another story.
[/QUOTE]

You pretty much said it there, being killed with ‘First order optimal strategies’ (low ratio of skill to power tactics) e.g. noobtubes and 100 hand slaps in street fighter :slight_smile: are in the game for newer players to enjoy the game and adapt to the learning curve ( I’m not making this up).

Anyways, these are things that are deliberately in games and deliberately limited in “comp” settings, that’s all. To each their own is all that’s going on here.

:stroggbanana::oppressor::stroggbanana:

(Jess Alon) #68

[QUOTE=Weapuh;262953]You pretty much said it there, being killed with ‘First order optimal strategies’ (low ratio of skill to power tactics) e.g. noobtubes and 100 hand slaps in street fighter :slight_smile: are in the game for newer players to enjoy the game and adapt to the learning curve ( I’m not making this up).

Anyways, these are things that are deliberately in games and deliberately limited in “comp” settings, that’s all. To each their own is all that’s going on here.

:stroggbanana::oppressor::stroggbanana:[/QUOTE]

Are you saying it can’t be balanced for comp play? And how do you call a shotgun a noob weapon? If you’re a skilled player aren’t you going to be aware of your surroundings and be able to destroy that dude with the shottie with your AR before he gets within effective range to use it?

(Weapuh) #69

Not saying it can’t be balanced I’m just saying it would need to be, for what it is. Was simply stating the thought process of balance with comp in mind. It’s actually pretty well thought out to have exactly even opportunity for both sides or you can’t compete on it. (is why L4D was so tough to balance [I personally don’t think it is] because the team going second has the benefit of knowing where the tank and guns will be in the map.) It’s nothing to be frowned at, it’s just a different way to play :slight_smile: There are some keyboard warriors on both fronts but it’s just a preference. Not like its terribly large servers so you can just have enough friends to fill a server and make ur own rules ^^

HEHE Dancing Strogg bananas.

(Iur'Tae'Mont) #70

Aren’t you the major “NO TDM” guy in another thread?

(Weapuh) #71
  1. Nobody is talking about TDM
  2. How do hypotheticals relate to this?
  3. Cool post bro
(Nail) #72

remember shotguns were designed to kill 3 lb birds, not people, at 50 ft they’re very good at doing that
close up , they’re better at other things, with a slug and 2" standoff “Masterkey” lock remover, but with pellets you still have to aim well and at 50’ you can still miss

(Iur'Tae'Mont) #73

[QUOTE=Weapuh;262982]1. Nobody is talking about TDM
2. How do hypotheticals relate to this?
3. Cool post bro[/QUOTE]

TDM is just another way to play the game. Why is removing content ok but adding content is a major no-no?

(Weapuh) #74

Because it was a hypothetical debate on the games development as was stated in THAT thread go dig it up if you care.

(DonkeyDong) #75

[QUOTE=trigg3r;262950]i’m sorry, but how exactly is shooting someone at close range with a shotgun SPAM? :confused: Do you know what spam means?

About the shotguns at close range, even when i’ll probably be using them a lot 'cause they are my fav weapons, i’d still prefer if you need at least 2 shots to incapacitate your enemy[/QUOTE]

Didn’t mean to say OHK shotguns are spam, but they are lameish like spammy weapons. Sorry if my english is sometimes not perfect. It is a 2nd language.

But we both agree, that the shotguns should be 2 hits. I agree with you on that fully. So lets just dismiss the spam component comment. :wink:

(DonkeyDong) #76

An obivous point was made when I was discussing this on mumble. Probably plenty of us are different… 1) console users 2) pc users 3) competative pc users 4) competative console users? (isn’t that the special olympics)… jk… FLAME ON. … jk jk… plz ignore that.

But…

DEAR SPLASH DAMAGE.

Can you please make 2 additional forums, 1 for console, 1 for competitive?

I really don’t want to have an anyerism, and accidently say something I don’t mean. Like my joke above… it’s best served with water (thanks Seanza).

** Reason to have these is the 3 groups vary GREATLY and i really think this 3 groupings need to have their own forum so people with related styles/etc can work more together rather then have such varying different opinions…

** because all our opinions matter! no one is really wrong here! we are just different and should have our own facilities…

** games of the future will succeed if they address this !!!

:stroggtapir:

oh look another tapir… still running straight, must be the first generation of re-population.

(trigg3r) #77

[QUOTE=DonkeyDong;263068]Didn’t mean to say OHK shotguns are spam, but they are lameish like spammy weapons. Sorry if my english is sometimes not perfect. It is a 2nd language.

But we both agree, that the shotguns should be 2 hits. I agree with you on that fully. So lets just dismiss the spam component comment. :wink:[/QUOTE]
i was directing that comment at Apples actually, not you :slight_smile:

and english is my second language as well, as you can see from my location; so dont worry about it

(Nail) #78

DonkeyDong:

You realize these aren’t the official Brink forums, they’re at http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/forum/53-brink/

I think the competitive scene would be best served on the official forums

(trigg3r) #79

i don’t think there’s a need to have different subforums right now since it’s not that crowded.

But once brink is released it’s going to be much much populated here so they’ll probably have to do it just to keep things more organized, since there will be lots of posts and new threads to keep them all in the same place. we can have a “general discussion forum” a “weapons forum” a “class forum” etc etc…

(madoule) #80

[QUOTE=DonkeyDong;263070]
DEAR SPLASH DAMAGE.

Can you please make 2 additional forums, 1 for console, 1 for competitive?

I really don’t want to have an anyerism, and accidently say something I don’t mean. Like my joke above… it’s best served with water (thanks Seanza).

** Reason to have these is the 3 groups vary GREATLY and i really think this 3 groupings need to have their own forum so people with related styles/etc can work more together rather then have such varying different opinions…

** because all our opinions matter! no one is really wrong here! we are just different and should have our own facilities…

** games of the future will succeed if they address this !!!

:stroggtapir:

oh look another tapir… still running straight, must be the first generation of re-population.[/QUOTE]

c’mon dude you can’t be serious.
that’s what forums are for: opinions clash! that’s the fun of it and this creates the best discussions. people may get new perspective(s), can share their views and arguement, they even can change their opinions.

participation in forums can be enlightening, entertaining, bewildering, … (the list goes on) but all in a manner according to the net-tiquette.

separating the community would lessen theses effects and IMO is a lame excuse for not being able to accept opinions, to discuss in a decent argument and sometimes listening to voice of the forum and its members, accept defeat or agree to disagree.

you said it right there and are absolutely spot on:

all our opinions matter! no one is really wrong here!

but in this case, the exception proves the rule, you are wrong to ask to split the forum IMO in your own interest.