Selectionprocess of ranked serverprodivers ?!


([ls.leodavinci]) #1

There have been some posts about ranked servers… http://www.splashdamage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16471 for example.

I am wondering how the selection will work?

  • Will activision select the usual big serverproviders around the globe (like EA did with BF-series … which kinda sucked)
  • Will there be a list of criteria --> serverproviders signup --> they can offer ranked servers when criteria are met
  • … anything else?

As a clan we want to have a public ranked server online as soon as the game has been launched, would be nice to know which providers will be able to host ranked servers and which wont.

As said before:

  1. it sucks when you have to choose from a small minority of gameserverproviders to get a decent server (the big ones get a bigger monopoly)
  2. if there are only a few providers @ the start… the price can be nasty !!!
  3. players are statwhores… so it is bullshit to say that unranked servers will be as popular as the nonranked (same bullshit EA came up with when they released BF2). " So you can have thousands and thousands of servers out there " ?! Sure… and they will be 80% more empty then the ranked ones
  4. so hope they will do a decent job for the community when they come up with things like ranked servers… we need freedom, not limitations !!!

So what are the plans … ?


(malarky) #2

Good post - this is something we’re working on right now. We don’t have anything to announce yet, but we definitely will before launch.

We’re aware of everything you’ve mentioned there, and hopefully we’ll find a decent balance.


(madness) #3

Once there was talk about how anyone can host a ranked server at home :frowning:

Unless they violate the rules of ranked servers and get stripped of the status.


(murka) #4

i hope the system of setting up a server from your own pc will be easyer, not like ET where you had to deal with hamachi.


(General.Jung) #5

Hello Forum,

i hope it will be possible, that i can leased a ranked license for my own root, like the Honor System in Americas Army. I will have the full control about my server. If the only way to get a ranked over a game server provider i will boycott this commercial rip-off. This is a point where Splash Damage have to admit their future way. I hope it will be a Gamer for Gamer Way. The chance to buy a license for a own root is essential for the balance. I am very delighted about the candor of Splash Damage. Please do not sell your soul. How agree with this Opinion.


(.-COM-.PAIN) #6

This would be good to know so we can prepare. Ideally, we’d like to stay with our current game server providers for ranked servers.

On a side note, will there be server binaries available for the demo (if/when demo is released)?


(fart666) #7

i bet you gave the guy’s at sd a good laugh here…


(Strogg) #8

I sure in the hell hope not " that would kill Quake Wars IMHO"


I have looked at some already and they have a pre-order and they are stating " RANKED SERVERS" & NONE-RANKED Servers And Demo Servers
artofwarcentral.com is one of them

===========
Agreed!!

===========
The reason I used exploits and cheated when bf2142 first came out I did not like the Idea you had to have points just to get your weapons. So I used the exploits & cheats just to get my weapons. After I had all the weapons for the support class I did not use any more exploits or cheats since I had all my weapons. It really sucked that you had to get points just to get your weapons. If Quake Wars does the same I will use any means that I can find just to get my weapons. I think everyone should have all their weapons they need for what ever class they play at the beginning of the game. Thats why I think thats why BF2142 really sucked!

Amen Brother!!


(fart666) #9

sad… :roll:


(Strogg) #10

sad… :roll:[/quote]

So deal with it! :evil: … that’s B.S. that you have to have points to get your frickin weapons. GIMMIE MY WEEPONS!!! :stroggbanana: :stroggbanana:


(kamikazee) #11

You are around for some time now, but I’ll explain the difference between ranks and XP once more.

XP defines which weapons you get. XP is reset to zero for everyone when they join a server and probably after each map cycle, so the playing field should even out after at least each map-cycle. No need to cheat because you will lose your weapons sooner or later.

Ranks on the other hand are there for bragging. Want to scream to your neighbor, friends or momma how good you are? Play on ranked servers and the ranks go up. Stop playing for a month and you’ll sure lose some points.

But please, cheating is only good for getting kicked off a server. Get busted once and your whole “street cred” is completely lost.

Anyway, I won’t play that often on ranked servers unless I can combine them with mods.


(.-COM-.PAIN) #12

sad… :roll:[/quote]

What part is sad, BF player or a cheata? :wink:

I think they said that weapon and skill upgrades are linked to XP like current ET and not connected to stats.


(Strogg) #13

You are around for some time now, do I really have to explain the difference between ranks and XP once more?

XP defines which weapons you get. XP is reset to zero for everyone when they join a server and probably after each map cycle, so the playing field should even out after at least each map-cycle. No need to cheat because you will lose your weapons sooner or later.

Ranks on the other hand are there for bragging. Want to scream to your neighbor, friends or momma how good you are? Play on ranked servers and the ranks go up. Stop playing for a month and you’ll sure lose some points.

But please, cheating is only good for getting kicked off a server. Get busted once and your whole “street cred” is completely lost.

Anyway, I won’t play that often on ranked servers unless I can combine them with mods.[/quote]

XP SUCKS PERIOD!!! … I dont play for STATS, POINTS, BAUGES! OR RANKS!!! … I JUST PLAY TO WIN THE GAME NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS.

BAUGES??? … I DONT NEED NO STINK’N BAUGES!! JUST GIMMIE MY WEEPONS!!! :stroggbanana: :stroggbanana: So I can help my team win the game!

STATS??? … I DONT NEED NO STINK’N STATS!! JUST GIMMIE MY WEEPONS!!! :stroggbanana: :stroggbanana: So I can help my team win the game!

RANKS??? … I DONT NEED NO STINK’N RANKS!! JUST GIMMIE MY WEEPONS!!! :stroggbanana: :stroggbanana: So I can help my team win the game!

POINTS??? … I DONT NEED NO STINK’N POINTS!! JUST GIMMIE MY WEEPONS!!! :stroggbanana: :stroggbanana: So I can help my team win the game!


(kamikazee) #14

Ok, so we’ll make a mod which keeps the XP at 0. Big deal.


(Flesh) #15

Yeah and that’ll catch on pretty quick.

If you like stats then the current xp system is just enough. But now we will get this division between unranked and ranked servers. Guess who will win that popularity contest.

Do not limit us? Global rank is limitaton enough


(fart666) #16

no comment on this…


(BrightSoul) #17

In my opinion, everyone should be able to start his own ranked server. That said, each admin would be asked to submit a hand signed agreement to Activision that -legally- prohibits them to hack the data sent to the main stat server.

When the ranked server is finally up, players shall decide if it’s worth of being a ranked one by casting votes and providing feedback. If the server has been reported too laggy or the admins assholes, Activition may suspend the license until standards of quality are met.

To ensure the server is providing with real data, each connected client should write down all “exp events” that happened during the match (ie. gdf#1 killed strogg#1 with a landmine: +5 exp to engineering). When the match is over, the server will send the data to the main stat server but that data won’t go live until all of the clients (or all those that are still connected) confirm it by sending their own “exp events” log (or its hash).
If the logs match, the server gets a “trusted point” for each unique client connected to it.

The more people will play on a given server, the more it will be trusted. On the contrary, if only a few people (always the same) play on a ranked server, the license might be suspended because it is not either open to the public or because everyone is probably hacking happily.

All of the client feedback and server data verification process can’t be made up or hacked because it’s sent by the client itself to the stat server prior authetication with the PlayerName/GUID (which are public) + Game Serial Key (private).

…would this work?


(Sauron|EFG) #18

So if the game has some features you don’t like you will use cheats? :twak:
How does that make you different from other cheaters who claim they only cheat because they don’t think the game is fun without cheats?

I’m all for preemptive banning of people like you. :stuck_out_tongue:


(Flesh) #19

I think he was right to cheat. EA deserved it. They deserverd to have their $$$ making plan backfire on them by giving them servers full of cheaters rather than bunch of ppl xp whoring day after day on their servers just so that they can get their unlocks and finaly start having “fun” like EA originaly planned.


(fart666) #20

…so lets do that in quakewars too! :wink: