Refunding Phantom

(kittenishPond) #41

[quote=“Fap Fap Master;51957”][quote=“RuleofBooKz;51954”]So exciting right now for so many ghost boy owners

just think how much skill u will now need to use in order to get this complex merc to perform at a high level.

Isnt it just so rewarding and fulfilling to kno u are going to be challenged by a task, playing ghost boy well, but with hard work, practice and a gradual maturing of skill you shall overcame.

go forth and enjoy your newly balanced merc. report back often with your latest achievements. [/quote]
I just play fletcher now, phantom doesn’t excel in anything no more.
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Fletcher is a man of many talents, objective, killing, defending and jokes. Plus he will tell you the jokes no charge.

(ev1ldarks) #42

Fletcher is a lil’ bit hard to use (need to rebind these action buttons) but very cool yeah :wink:

(PurpleNurple) #43

I played against so many toxic Phantom players instigating others constantly to the point where I feel no sympathy for people who mained Phantom the past week. I tried him out for 30 hours and got bored of him pretty quick because his kills weren’t satisfying at all. They required little to no skill and he was nothing but a pub stomper. The only buff he’ll get is what will be included with the melee turn speed fix. If you can’t do well with him now you didn’t deserve your kills last week. Every decent player agrees that SD did a great job with Phantom because decent players don’t main him. Just a little btw I paid $$ for Phantom and have his C94 gold loadout. I don’t need a refund because I knew a nerf was coming and so did everyone else.

(Uriei) #44

The problem is not the phantom nerf, is the melee nerf, ALL MELEE was nerfed insanely, even a little knife feels like you are attacking with a concrete pillar xD

(kittenishPond) #45

Fun Fact: Only people I have seen teabag (apart from me that one time I wanted to hear the voice line for Proxy and apologized profusely for) are Phantoms. Guess they didn’t watch the trailer.

(Azure) #46

Teabagged* fixed that wrong for you.

(Rjsto) #47

Well you haven’t seen me playing then, dipping da nader nads. It’s a shame teabagging is rather difficult after martyrdom :smirk:

(kittenishPond) #48

Teabagged* fixed that wrong for you.[/quote]
Honestly never seen a Phantom teabagged.

(Sinee) #49

I have a friend that mained Phantom and absolutely got a thrill out of him since his release that would agree with you that they released him the way they did on purpose to get sales, then nerfed him into oblivion.

I thought he was wearing his tin-hat on too tight for such a conspiracy theory but now I’m not so sure. :confused:
I didn’t play Phantom but I am sad to see my friend pissed over the changes.

(Fap Fap Master) #50

I am an above decent player, I mained phantom for his melee playstyle, but now its gone. Stealth is way too obvious.

(kittenishPond) #51

Agreed, it’s like. HEY! SHOOT THIS SHINY THING!

(Azure) #52

Teabagged* fixed that wrong for you.[/quote]
Honestly never seen a Phantom teabagged.
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Then you clearly are in a lvl-5 game. You do not get time to ‘teabag’ with phantom.

(kittenishPond) #53

Teabagged* fixed that wrong for you.[/quote]
Honestly never seen a Phantom teabagged.
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Then you clearly are in a lvl-5 game. You do not get time to ‘teabag’ with phantom.[/quote]
You should not assume. Easy, he picks people off and teabags, it does not take much time.

(beigeTackle) #54

i dunno…i think the only real way to balance phantom and make him actually fit is to change his entire play-style. most games that have cloak make that class focus primarily on long range attacks. phantom is a melee focused cloaker…with the current idea he’ll either be junk and never played or completely op and fill up every pub room. i think they need to reconsider his role in the game.

(PurpleNurple) #55

If you were an above decent player you wouldn’t be raging about a nerf you knew was coming. If you were an above decent player you wouldn’t rely on Phantom in a broken state that is only good for farming newer players that don’t have much situational awareness. I’m not even conceited enough to call myself an above decent player and I main Kira and kick ass with her. People who took advantage of Phantom then complain about him now aren’t anywhere near above decent. I will agree on his stealth being a little too blatant now tho. Kick that down a bit and fix melee turn speed and he’ll be fine.

(B_Montiel) #56

He’s still the best melee guy, which is not to be forgotten :stuck_out_tongue:
Besides, I’m waiting for the next free rotation to give him a go. And this is what everyone should do if you want to invest your credits/real money wisely. SD and Nexon never baited you into buying him. Most of the merc received some slight changes within 2 weeks after their release, so we all were warned about potential changes. This is not a cakewalk to release a merc at a first throw like they did. Some much bigger games also failed with balancing things upon their release. LoL and Cs:Go for example. Players’s sense for novelty, especially if it’s said above the rest of the merc available, baited you.
Nevertheless, SD is working hard on balancing mercs through stats analysis, so if Phantom is totally ruined by this patch, he’ll get buffed sooner or later.

(robustWonder) #57

Wait for them to fix the speed while using melee and I think he’ll be fine. As for a refund… in games things change and we all know this. Nothing is guaranteed to stay the same especially in MMOs.

(Old Man) #58

I bought Phantom on day one. After few games I knew he is easy mode and stopped playing it. I’m going to play it NOW when is more balanced.

I don’t agree with all changes - for example I would prefer the refractive armour losing the HP boost for sake of the same cloak transparency and keeping Phantom HP at 120, but I have no influence over this.

Still cry me a river and learn to aim.

(robustWonder) #59

[quote=“Old Man;52020”]I bought Phantom on day one. After few games I knew he is easy mode and stopped playing it. I’m going to play it NOW when is more balanced.

I don’t agree with all changes - for example I would prefer the refractive armour losing the HP boost for sake of the same cloak transparency and keeping Phantom HP at 120, but I have no influence over this.

Still cry me a river and learn to aim. [/quote]

They over nerfed him.

Phantom

[b]Phantom's health has been lowered to 110hp (from 120hp)
Refractive Armor maximum recharge time increased to 10s (from 6s)
Taking damage that exceeds remaining Refractive Armor energy will now also eat into health[/b]
Heartbeat Sensor detection no longer disables Refractive Armor, but will still spot Phantom
[b]Refractive Armor no longer prevents gas damage from eating into health
Refractive Armor is now slightly more visible when Phantom is moving
Cloaking/de-cloaking audio is now more audible to other players[/b]

Melee Weapons

Added a turn-speed-limit for melee attacks to prevent exploits and to reward initial aim
This will be fine-tuned based on player feedback and metrics
Katana - Reduced run speed when equipped by 2.5%
Katana - Secondary attacks now deal damage for a shorter period of time

Augments

[b]Chopper Augment melee damage bonus reduced to +15% (down from +20%)[/b]

Seems like almost every aspect of his melee capabilities were nerfed and sadly everyone elses in the process.

(Fap Fap Master) #60

2 options, make phantom more visible OR make him more squishy, they did both and killed him.
I used fletcher to vs phantoms and I absolutely raped them before the patch, people >lvl 10 have no trouble beating him. I had no issue, I knew his indicators and reacted accordingly