Reasons for being kicked...

(amazinglarry) #1

I want to know if this is a good reason for me to get kicked…

It turns out I didn’t get kicked anyway… I just TK’ed the “admin” and left… but here’s the story…

I’m playin on a server that has the shrub mod on almost to the max. I mean the recharge bars recharge in like 2 seconds and there’s almost infinite air strikes/artillery and it’s just absolutely constant. So the server is just basically mayhem…

It’s a 10 map campaign and I join on the 4th… in 3 maps I have the most XP in the server and for the most part my team likes me. Heh. So we’re on battery and it’s the most boring thing I’ve ever experienced in my life because we have about 5 level 4 Field Ops constantly spamming the construction ramp/spawn/beach (there’s 15 second spawns too) and it’s just absolutely constant… and NOTHING is happening.

So I tell the guy who’s guarding the back door with an MG42 that if I come back in through the door for any reason to kill me without thinking twice (knowing I’ll probably die and have my uniform stolen… but I need some entertainment) he laughs and has no problem with killing me he says…

So I run out a few times and finally an “admin” just joins and asks me why I’m going out back… so I told him because I’m bored, but if he sees me come back in for any reason to kill me and whatever… Then he informs me that if I go back out again EVER I’ll be kicked / banned.

I asked the guy if he was serious… because it’s become clear to me that the server is just based purely on fun because it’s just constant mayhem and insanity… nothing to be taken seriously but he tells me that in fact he will kick me… so I told him to fuck himself and put a few shots of my K43 in his head. Exit.

Then he kicked the rest of my clan buddies… but regardless that’s just overdoing it just a little bit in my opinion… kicking people for going out the back door? What’s the big deal? What fun is a map if you’re just hanging out inside a bunker, calling artillery and waiting for the 15 minutes to end? I don’t play the game to WIN. I play it for entertainment purposes and for fun. I’m most certainly NOT a “WIN AT ALL COSTS” guy on PUBLIC servers… I’m very much the opposite in a PUG or a match…

Oh well… I guess that’s just me. :beer:

(petlion) #2

jeez i hate these servers the whole point is for chaos and racking up the frags… just leave the damned server i do and i uess you did to so

good times :drink: :drink: :drink: good times

(Englander) #3

Well at least he warned u what would happen if you did go out back, its better than just being kick/banned without any warning at all,if thats the way he wants to run the server its up to him either stay or leave.A lot do play on pubs to win ,I do but I can understand whyu thought this serverwas just for a laugh ,the server sounds crazy not my cup of tea at all.

Kicking the rest of ur clan buddies because of ur actions isnt right though thats something I dont agree with at all.

(FstFngrz) #4

I was playing tonight and some guy shot me so I gave him the boot. even got a 10 sec demo of it.

daBoot 10sec 53kb demo download

If ya put/install/download/place/copy/move/paste/drag or get the file inside your \etmain[b]demos[/b] folder it will be visable in the ingame replay menu.
(if ya dont have a “demos” folder, right click inside the etmain folder select new-folder and names it demos)

:twak:

:skull:

(Loffy) #5

About the mechanics/logic behind the admins kick: I think it is that saying, absolute power corrupts. They (crappy mean admins) enjoy kicking. And when they kick, they also enjoy the fact that the remaining players can see what just happened. “See, I kicked him!”
It makes me mad. I leave those servers.
On the other hand, there are admins that are great.
// Loffy

PS. Just 2 degrees C this morning. Brrr. It is getting colder and colder.

(Englander) #6

ROFL Poor Allie ,that will teach him not to go chasing an Axis zombie u up a ladder-GOOMBA!!!

(Rippin Kitten) #7

Considering how many good server there are out there (well, atleast in the pacific northwest), I don’t even bother with servers that have wacked out settings or crappy admins. If an admin wants to run his server like that he won’t have much of a crowd to abuse.

The only thing I’d complain about is TKing the admin. Sure, he’s acting like a prick. But there’s no reason for you to return the favor. Now he feels perfectly justified making that decision.

RK

(amazinglarry) #8

Point being I wasn’t going to be hanging out in that server any longer… and if I was going to be either A) Forced to leave or B) Leave on my own will… I might as well get some satisfaction out of the deal.

I completely understand that it’s their server and they can do whatever they please with it… it’s just my personal opinion that they’re tools and I won’t play there again. Normally there are certain servers I always play on, but I just moved all the way down the east coast last week and I have very different pings (higher) in the servers I’m used to playing in. I’m now just joining the better pinged servers in my list to try to find newer regular servers.

Since we run our own server I know what it’s like to be in a position of power and I’ve learned not to abuse it because it doesn’t make the game fun for anybody else (even though the whistle sound is very entertaining and addicting :smiley: ) But I think kicking people for playing a way you’d rather not have them play is ridiculous.

Play this way or be kicked!!!.. - Exit
Follow my every command because I run the server!!! - Exit
Give ME and only ME ammo or be kicked!!! - Exit
and my favorite…
SPAWN CAMPERS WILL BE KICKED!!! - Exit

How about instead of crying about every little thing that isn’t happening the way you’d expect, you just stfu and see what happens… work your way in and out of situations… there is NO one way to accomplish a goal in this game. Sure there are higher percentage ways… but they can become very repetetive and boring if played to a T everytime on a PUB (which I define as a “fun time.”)

:blah: blah :blah: blah :blah: blah

(funkPig) #9

I have to agree, it’s a game. Just because you THINK playing one way is the ONLY way to play dosen’t make it true. (I don’t want this to turn in to a discussion about the battery but…) I have seen axis teams that can hold that CP. How will you ever know if it is possible until you break out of the cookie cutter mold and TRY IT?

I too thinnk that is an immature reason to kick someone, even if it is their own server. Damn dued, I remember kindegarden too, “I’ll just take my ball and go home then”

Good luck finding better servers, I know they are out there.

(ND80) #10

Amazing Larry,

Those settings are very similar to what I am running on [ND80]Unlimited Abuse, athought my is set to run a 6 map campaign. If you are mistaken about the number of maps in the campaign and it was my server, please PM or email me with the name of the admin and the time you were on the server. Thanks.

(Ragnar_40k) #11

I got kicked for:

[ul][li]shooting the admin to often (as enemy).
[/li][li]for starting a vote to kick an idle player (it turns out it was an admin and although he wasn’t moving at all he must be sitting before his PC).
[/li][li]so that the admin can join an otherwise full server.
[/li][li]for using the wrong weapon (usually panzer or rifle nades).
[/li][*]for being “lame” (I was medic).[/ul]

(Mr. Chris) #12

I am yet to use my level 3 access for OsG server to deal with disruptive powers. [OsG]C-64 said “Abuse your power and you’ll find yourself banned.”

Their style of policing the servers is really good, as is Puregamer’s too

(Lanz) #13

There’s two types of servers available online; one is the server runned by a clan for the interest of the clan, the other is the server runned for the fun of offering a good time for the public. There’s a distinct differance between the two and imo rightfully so. The main thing to expect from a server runned by a clan is that you can get kicked at anytime because either the clan has a match or a clan member wants to play. If you pay for the server it’s your right to do so imo. Some clan servers is really badly runned because it’s just a clan member with access to the rcon password and not a good admin that wants the best for his server. This is of course not good for the players on the server but something you just need to learn to live with or join a different kind of server. I’m not saying that all clan servers are admined that way but a lot are, our server is not for example (but then again it’s not admined much at all) besides the ocasional kick to make room.

It’s really not much to make a big scene out of when there’s plenty of other servers around, especially not if you get kicked.

(amazinglarry) #14

Well I’m very sorry I made such a big scene out of it… I was just deeply annoyed at the time…

Much like I am now after reading that.

While you obviously have some valid points… most servers are run by a clan anyways, or the person who owns the server is in one. All servers are paid for. The owner can do whatever he damn well pleases. I agree with that fully.

The point you must have missed was the one where it was obviously set up for the fun of the public due to it’s completely whacked out settings that come nowhere near competetive play. So that to me, rules out the fact that they had a scrim coming up or were practicing some ideas… well that and the fact that there was only ONE member in.

The fact that I was going to be kicked for going out the backdoor after playing on the server for over an hour is ridiculous to me.

I could really give a crap if they have the RIGHT to do so. I haven’t told anybody to never go to their server… as a matter of fact I haven’t even listed the server or clans NAME. I’m just giving a STORY about how some people have superiority complexes in GENERAL DISCUSSION… Thank you. :clap:

(SittingDuck) #15

We constantly kick people on our server to make room for clan members to play. IMO, there’s nothing wrong with that since we’re the ones paying to host the server, and should be able to play on it at anytime.

However, I personally have lost every single map at least 1,000,000 times so losing really isn’t an issue anymore. Going out the back door…yeah, it would be great if people didn’t do it, but I’m not gonna flame someone or kick them because they’re trying a different tactic.

A few days ago our team was being ripped apart by two snipers on the beach. You would stick your head out and get it shot off. How do you get them? Either a lucky panzer shot, or go out the back door and flank them…nothing wrong with that tactic…infact, it made the game more interesting to devise new tactics…

I see your point and find it very bad form for an admin to kick someone because they’re not playing the game like the “cookie cutter mould.” I mean, we were all n00bs at one point…

I’ve been on quite a few servers where the power has gone to the head of the admins…It’s sickening and the best solution…move to a different server.

One server, myself and two other clan members joined and we were warned that we weren’t allowed to stack the teams. That if we went on the same team we would be kicked. Well, how was that possible? We were 3 people with 2 sides…do the math. In any case, we were kicked after playing for 2 mins…Stoopid? Definately! Is that server in our favorites? Hell no! There’s tonnes of servers out there that are well done, have fantastic admins and I don’t waste time with the ones that suck…

(Lanz) #16

Sorry if I didn’t make my self clear, what I meant with getting kicked was getting kicked for making room for clan members. Since the server is open for the public more time than it’s private and/or used by clan members it’s no point of wasting one or two slots for private clients. Every slot cost money so it’s usually better to give those slots to the public than keeping them locked (How many knows that a clan server can cost up to £100 a month?). Usually what happens is that we kick the person with the lowest score and join in. If you find yourself being kicked by imature members with rcon passwords, you know why; Just a member that has the right because he is part of the clan. But, still he’s paying for it as the rest of the guys and no one really take pub servers that seriously to do anything about it, good or bad, that’s how it is.

Really I’m not defending any type of behaviour from bad admins, I’m just trying to give non clan members a view of how it usually works. Just remember that 90% of the time, the servers we pay for is public and open for anyone to use without any hassle. Overall I think the clan servers contribute with more good than bad at least.

(Hameed) #17

This in itself warrents the kick regardless of anything else.
As for kicking you clan buddies I am sure they turned into "Troll Mode"TM and started flaming the admin so that also warrents the kick.

(TheRogueEvangelist) #18

99.9999999% percent of server admins are just stupid fuckheads. I’m not suprised, AmazinGLarrY. This happens to me just about every time I go onto a server and I don’t like the admin…disrespecting the admin is my #1 way of getting banned :slight_smile:

You can tell that most admins are fucking computer nerds who have nothing better to do with their time. You know, the “ooo, im in a big popular clan (that says absolutely nothing about me), and im sooo good at this game i ownz u all (because I’ve been playing for the past 12 weeks straight)” type.

Just on side note, if I were the admin of a server, I would:
-set respawn time to about 35 secs
-have 50%+ win a vote
-disable airstrikes
-double the reloading time on panzerfausts
-for everything else, half the reloading time (things like smoke nades, dinomite, etc.)
-have FF on, but a vote could change this
-never permenently ban players
-have a “fun mode” every other campaign, inwhich gravity was lowered, have no reloading time on most special weapons, and people could fly (like in Hamsters House of Sex :slight_smile:
-kick anyone I didn’t like, but if they TKed me I would not punish them, as long as they had fair reasoning

(daemord) #19

personally, on our server we dont go kicking people when clan members want to join, we have 4 privvy slots for that and normally this isnt to much of a problem, we normally kick idlers simply to ensure we have a regular flow of people but thats about it, and where as i hate people doing stuff like going out the back door and will shout and winge at them, i wont kick them, as has already been pointed out, we were all new once, and we all have to learn (normally the hard way).
We also try to keep teh server fair by regularly swapping teams and not stacking ourselves on our server.

Also for the record, im fed up of all these “fun servers”, dont get me wrong there sometimes okay (depends on what is done), but for the most part the admins just take things to extremes and its just a spam fest, this is why imo servers should just be default settings, rather than having to change tactics and methods for each and every server you join.

(Hameed) #20

The last time I hcecked there was more than 1600 ET servers online, if you don’t like how a erver is run then join another. If you join a server and “disrespect” the admin then you bet you will be kicked, the guy is PAYING to provide you with this free service!