Rahdo's words - what happened here?

(Verticae) #961

So if 10% of all people who bought it keep playing it for 3 years, the game is worse than a game that loses 99% of its customers in 3 months? I don’t see how that makes sense.

(Humate) #962

The whole adapt comment is hilarious.
Isn’t the reason SD streamlined their interface, was because they believed players werent willing to adapt?
You know because its too difficult to select a med pack, find the person and then throw it on them.

And lol @ better than etqw.

(wolfnemesis75) #963

[QUOTE=.Chris.;378622]Care to explain any of that? Afaik you haven’t played ET:QW so how the hell can you say Brink does a lot of stuff better than it.
You say Brink is better, again having not played ET:QW or ET how can you state this?
It would be like me saying Fallout3 is better than Fallout 1 and 2 because 3 was the only one I played and I really enjoyed it therefore it’s instantly better than the previous games I haven’t played, I can only comment on the one game I have tried on it’s own merits, I can’t compare it to games I haven’t played…
Player stats say otherwise.[/QUOTE]That’s all your opinion. I have mine. You ain’t gonna change it. Brink is better. And made more money. Words are wind other than that.

(.Chris.) #964

I can back my opinion up, you can’t

(DarkangelUK) #965

Wait, are you trying to say that Wolf is avoiding being called out on his views again and he’s running away instead of trying to back it up AGAIN? That’s new :rolleyes:

(wolfnemesis75) #966

Brink is the best game to come out in 2011 so far. Game of the Year. All the other games are the same old boring crap.

(.Chris.) #967

Yeah, seems that way.

(gooey79) #968

I’m afraid the critics and a significant portion of people who purchased the game disagree.

Clearly though, you’re only giving your opinion. In my opinion, there are a few games that are better than Brink that have come out already and others on the way very soon indeed. Deus Ex: Human Revolution, for example; is a much better game in my view.

(tokamak) #969

Then why bother putting it forward to be argued with? This is really the equivalent of plugging your ears and singing a little childish song so you can’t hear anyone.

(.Chris.) #970

Still not sure how you can state X is better than Y without trying Y. I don’t care if he likes Brink or not but to claim it’s better than another game he hasn’t played is bit silly.

(tokamak) #971

Well the Star Wars prequels are all better, I just can’t be arsed watching old movies.

(.Chris.) #972

Too far man, too far.

(Humate) #973

Its like a kid walking into mcdonalds, claiming its the best food ever.
And then an adult saying - “Son, could you elaborate please! Have you even dined at a Michelin Star restaurant before?”
At some point you just shrug your shoulders, and allow it to be.

(INF3RN0) #974

Didn’t realize you were responsible for picking the game of the year. Congrats.

Too funny… but sadly too relevant to this forum LOL!

(Jimmy James) #975

[QUOTE=*goo;378643]I’m afraid the critics and a significant portion of people who purchased the game disagree.

Clearly though, you’re only giving your opinion. In my opinion, there are a few games that are better than Brink that have come out already and others on the way very soon indeed. Deus Ex: Human Revolution, for example; is a much better game in my view.[/QUOTE]
While I’m enjoying Deus Ex: Human Revolution (“49.5 hrs last two weeks / 71.4 hrs on record”) it’s a completely different genre of game and can hardly be compared to Brink. I’ll play Deus Ex all the way through once then put it away for awhile and go back to Brink. Maybe I’ll dust it off in a couple months and play it through with a different style but in the meantime I’ll be logging in a couple hours on Brink every day.

I’m sure it will be the same with Rage. I don’t plan on playing it multiplayer, just getting it for the single player storyline.

The only thing that may cause me to leave Brink for any length of time is Diablo III but the Brink devs are probably going to be playing that too so, no worries. :tongue:

-JJ

(Thundermuffin) #976

Just because it’s a different genre doesn’t mean that Deus Ex isn’t better than BRINK; there’s 14,000 people playing Deus Ex on Steam. That’s probably more than BRINK ever saw (I only ever saw BRINK hit about 12k ~ 13k) and it’s almost a month old. BRINK was dead within a couple of weeks and hitting less than 3k. Also look at how Eidos served up some love for their old fans; lots of people who liked Deus Ex when it was a new, hot game back in the 90’s are praising the new prequel. How many old ET(:QW)/RtCW fans are praising BRINK? How many old ET(:QW)/RtCW fans are even left playing the game?

Plus just look at the polish of Deus Ex when compared to BRINK; I haven’t heard of anyone having their sound drop out even after the developers “fixed” it and it seems like people with ATi cards are playing the game just fine and not having 25FPS. Stuff like that sounds so simple and like it should just work when you buy a game in 2011, yet BRINK still has those 2 problems and many, many more.

BRINK is no where near the level of quality Eidos gave and that amazes me that Eidos made a better game than Splash Damage. I always laughed when I saw Eidos name on boxes after I played the demo of Just Cause 1, but now the tables are turned.

(Jimmy James) #977

[QUOTE=Thundermuffin;378676]
Plus just look at the polish of Deus Ex when compared to BRINK;[/QUOTE]
You are delusional if you don’t think Deus Ex has a TON of problems. I’d make a list but I don’t feel like hijacking the thread right now. I’ll just say that Brink is way more polished than Deus Ex just based on in-game descriptions, crashes, encounter balance, and even storyline logic/consistency. There are obviously a lot of last-minute changes made to Deus Ex that makes a lot of in-game logs/descriptions invalid or make no sense.

Like I said, I’m enjoying Deus Ex but I’ve had to rage quit from it due to bugs more than I have from Brink.

-JJ

(Thundermuffin) #978

You do realize that I never said it was a 100% perfect game; all I did was compare the amount of polish in Brink vs that of Deus Ex. All of that stuff you listed is easily fixable and is down to writing errors or changing numbers to make it more balanced, besides the crashes you listed (which, by the way, Brink had tons and tons of those for Nvidia users). That’s not that bad as when you ship a game that alienates approximately 32% of your playerbase (based on Steam figures for ATi vs Nvidia) and never get together with the manufacturer of said cards to try to work together on fixing the issue. Plus Splash Damage has had months now to get out weapon tweaks, but they haven’t. It took them months to get out fixes for spawn timers even though their game was dead in the competitive scene, partly because of the horrible spawn timers and crap weapon balance.

So you’ve had to ragequit from Deus Ex with maybe a few hundred more people. 99% of players have ragequit from Brink, a game where you actually need other people to have fun with it. Do you still really, truly believe that Brink is the better game? Heck Dead Island had just about as bad of a launch as you can get (on par with Brink, if not a lot worse) and it has 22k on at the moment. I don’t think Brink ever hit that number.

(Jimmy James) #979

What I “realize” you said was what I quoted:

[QUOTE=Thundermuffin;378676]
Plus just look at the polish of Deus Ex when compared to BRINK; [/QUOTE]
And I was refuting that claim. Don’t try to put words into my mouth, just as I didn’t put words into yours.

Cheers,
JJ

(Thundermuffin) #980

I wasn’t putting words into your mouth and if you think I was that is hilarious. You come out spitting all this crap about me being delusional if I think Deus Ex doesn’t have tons of problems, yet the only thing I said was that it was way more polished than Brink will ever be. No where in there do I say that it is flawless.

Whatever; you’ll always think Brink is the best game ever to be made even when clearly presented with laundry lists of bugs and previous games that outshine their spiritual (or true successor if you go by the whole “this is ET3, let’s not mince words” thing rahdo said) successor.