Jerry: I take no offence in your posts, I agree SKILL should and does almost always beat ADVANTAGE/RESOURCES. Just look at the start of the Second World War, the Fins had 2000 ELITE soldiers they killed 90000 Russians!
I just feel when we do have a “world cup” the foundation of each squad should be the same, its the same in any other tournament in the world. Worldcup, Olympics, Dota2, Counterstrike etc. Why should it be different in Rad Soldiers?
Dont you want to beat and win against someone who is as skilled as you or even better using the same rules? You enjoy beating 18points players with your 2 Juans with fryers tactic? Is there any challenge in that?
I’m not a big “it has to be this way” RAD player. I don’t care that much about the tournaments. It’s all just a game for fun.
I don’t play a lot of games so I can’t speak to some of the examples your list. As for sports, tournaments follow the the same rules as the individual sports games themselves.
RAD allows you to earn or buy stuff and then configure your squad with anything you own for a standard game. I do not know if the games you mention are that way or not but the sports analogy would suggest that the tournament would follow the same rules as the game.
In American pro football, there are complex limits based on player salaries. There is no such restraint in American baseball and I am told that the NY Yankees frequently “buy” their way into the pennant race. There are arguments all over the place in those 2 sports.
I stated in some thread long ago that I would like to see a tourney with predefined, identical surprise squads that used under represented-toons. I think that would be interesting but I keep my mouth shut about what I think a tournament should look like for fear of somebody challenging me to put my money where my mouth is and run one. I did that to Ciakgb and he came over the top on me and did it. Good job, Ciakgb!!!
I have no objection to RAD tourneys with whatever rules the sponsor wants to impose. All melee? Cool. No snipers? OK. All clones? Sure. Only one toon from a class. Fine by me. It really comes down to whatever rules the sponsor (Paul in this case) wants to impose. Until a person is willing to host, I don’t think that person has a lot of room to complain too loudly.
So far we all have been using the same rules. Some (or maybe a lot of) people just don’t like the rules.
I don’t know. I don’t remember ever playing any 18 point players and I typically use 2 Madames with Fryers not Juans. I like skinnies.
A long time ago in a version far away, StykeZ didn’t want to play against anyone who would use the DOT Combo attack (stack toxic and flame). After he explained that to me, I stopped using that toon combo against him. He was a challenging player and I liked playing him so I bent to his rule set.
G00n told me that he didn’t want to run against squads that were specialist heavy. I followed his rule set.
I’ve played all shotguns, all melee, and special preset squads for fun or to try a weird strategy. I will play by just about any set of rules without much complaint but I do avoid “all random” squads.
If anybody wants a special rules match, send me a PM and let me respond before you challenge me. I’ll probably play.
I remember and still keep my stance. Don’t feel bad disagreeing with me. If everyone agreed with everything we would live in a pretty peaceful world. No hard feelings man.
[QUOTE=tinker;478080]@ Strychzilla
dude, listen
I actually have no fun commenting your whole post again
you know NOTHING about my playing style
especially not in 26pt games
you think you do? wrong. I play 26pt since the beginning of Ciakgbs tournament.
all I picked was my favourite characters at the moment. no strategy I run there.
I did not even pick Orbital strike ONCE. If I varied from my usual pick I took Bees beside artillery.
Electri-Fryer is nice indeed, you just don’t HAVE to use it. all game on ciakgb-tournament went with 1 electri-fryer and 1 otto semi-auto
are you even understanding what I posted?
dave SOLO won’t kill something. (my post)
you --> ofc, dave grenade AND COMMANDER ARTY …
on the one hand you say Dave grenade AND rest will kill something
now you say carlito and/or juan need something else …
Dave maximum damage at one target : grenade enemy is 2! cells away. grenade behind him to push him towards you. ~60 pt of damage
he now is 1! cell away. you gotta walk 1 - you got 8 energy left. good luck getting down 140 pt with 8 energy
Juan maximum damage at one target >4 cells away : Botherer SR : 3*82(longest range) = 246
Carlito grosso: Hamjak auto sg : 3 hits on a target <4 cells away does 200-360 dmg
just don’t wanna talk about your post anymore … getting boring[/QUOTE]
Tinker, it’s all good man. We agree to disagree. Believe me I didn’t have fun typing all that **** up either.
Again, not my intention. I’ll keep my balancing opinions to myself. Though, I still would like people to keep track of their Builds, Maps, who went first, and commander abilities. This is just for stats for my own sake.
[QUOTE=SuperNge;478083]@strychzilla : sorry because misunderstanding your think. Now i know, i remember what i do in the 2nd game. I dont want this. I think its funny but its bad. Im really sorry about this @mitsid : you talk too far and too big. I dont agree.
Every catalogue have a strongest player. And i feel difference and hard with each catalogue. I respect them.
14p - catnadian, sanpuppy, tinker…
20p - el-co, ciakgb, kino…and you.
Im is a nothing.
26p - im trying
Last thing, Why dont we stop talking too far from this Cup:eek: Peace
Best regards.[/QUOTE]
It’s not bad at all man. You’re playing in a cup, play to win. It’s all good. Hope to play vs you again. Have a good night!
Yeah guys thanks for making up. I was wading knee deep into this mess, and I swear to god I thought I knew a lot about this game, but I couldn’t make heads or tails about who was fighting about what. I was going to ask for one of those great Jerry/strychilla updates, but heck they were knee deep too.
G00n told me that he didn’t want to run against squads that were specialist heavy. I followed his rule set.
That feels sooo long ago Jerry (waiting for ya to play again) when I hated clone and snipe/med fest, mellowed out a lot once you get to know players more. until then me waits for the next episode
Everything is updated again, I think at max we’ll need another week. Group 5 and 8 are giving trouble, if the scores there indicate a clear winner we can continue.
@Paul
For Group 4:
1st and 2nd are in dispute. Everything else is decided. I collected the comments and updated the results table below.
Roniachu vs ed_lcl decides it all. Their match is the only one that appears to be still in progress. If Roniachu wins or splits, he’s 1st. If Ed_lcl wins, he’s 1st.
This matches should be finished by forfeit:
ed_lcl vs bayu013 should be 2-0
ed_lcl vs manteen12 should be 2-0
bayu013 vs Crozzton should be 0-2
Crozzton vs manteen12 should be 2-0
bayu013 vs manteen12 should be 1-1 (dual forfeit)
That gives the following results sorted by points:
Group 4 M P W D L
Roniachu 5 15 5 0 0
ed_lcl 5 13 4 1 0
Crozzton 6 10 3 1 2
Jerry-Rigs 6 10 3 1 2
sumeer 6 7 2 1 3
bayu013 6 1 0 1 5
manteen12 6 1 0 1 5
Possible outcomes:
if Roniachu wins
Group 4 M P W D L
Roniachu 6 18 6 0 0
ed_lcl 6 13 4 1 1
if Split
Group 4 M P W D L
Roniachu 6 16 5 1 0
ed_lcl 6 14 4 2 0
if ed_lcl wins
Group 4 M P W D L
ed_lcl 6 16 5 1 0
Roniachu 6 15 5 0 1
Hi Paul,
I like seeing myself at the top with 18pts in Group 2 but (un)fortunately I could only draw against Ciakgb so I should have same 16 pts as he does.
I’m sure some people are anxious to know if they made it to second round, do you need to see all the results before you decide, or is there a cut off you’ve already set Paul?
