[QUOTE=Jimmy James;367714]Uh, you said: “It really is amazing how little accurate information players have about the pre-order DLC.” So I posted a link to the DLC descriptions. No need to get defensive, just trying to be helpful.
-JJ[/QUOTE]
My apologies then.
if i could trade my greeneye scope to one of you i would. i ran some comparison testing recently, and in almost all circumstances*, adjusted iron sights or the red dot (the least obtrusive scope in terms of what it blocks) seem like a better choice.
when you zoom with the greeneye, you lose some of the most important peripheral awareness that the AIS provides, and what you gain in zoom is hindered by the wide frame of the scope, which blocks a good 10% of the primary area of the screen you’ll be looking at (it’s not 10% of the entire screen, but a good chunk (maybe >10% of the primary area where you center your enemies)
additionally, similar to the COGA (and especially the snoop-r-scope) , the greeneye scales down your aiming sensitivity, so it’s harder to quickly move around to the different targets, even with controller sensitivity maxed completely out.
again. i’m not arguing that you shouldnt have access to this…just that if you somehow win this argument with SD, i think you’ll be disappointed in your spoils.
*the rhett + greeneye or the Rok + greeneye owns bots, but humans that are more dynamic in their fighting and the lack of sensitivity can actually be a hindrance when ADS since they (humans) seems to dance and jump around a lot more.
And yet there is a difference between the Greeneye and COGA. I’m not claiming that it is the ‘end-all’ scope but it has its uses even if you personally dislike it.
To be honest, I’m more upset at SD than anything since they told us prior to Brink being released that every pre-order weapon or attachment would have an in-game equivalent. I guess lying to their fans is alright so long as they continue to ignore it. I understand if this was an oversight but at this point, months after release, their lack of acknowledgement only shows how little they care about fixing, or even admitting, their mistake.
that sounds a little harsh given that while this is not true: greeneye = COGA
this definitely is: greeneye ~ COGA
my point was that all this fuss is over very little in terms of actual in-game difference…it just doesent seem like that big of a deal.
That will be the best thing to do, I’m glad that someone follow me on this part. It’ll keep the pre order bonus for those who paid extra or pre ordered it, and balanced the game for the others. And even if it’s not a big deal as thesuzukimethod said, it’s what a PvP game is all about : a balanced game. The purpose of the thread was to discuss about keeping the greeneye which gives a small advantage to people who ordered the game in a store in particular while the launch of the game is far away and by extension to disccuss about the others bonuses.
I see that a lot of people are attached to their pre order bonus, I can understand that it sound logical to me. I am a little disappointed to not having one, I bought the game the first day, but that is no a big deal.
Does it really give an advantage though? Seriously?
Yes it’s slightly nicer than the COGA but it’s seriously outclassed by all the other options.
It’s almost like saying one of the jackets is more adventageous than the other because it’s a little bit of a tighter fit and so you can hide easier.
It’s barely an advantage IMO.
[QUOTE=zenstar;368104]Does it really give an advantage though? Seriously?
Yes it’s slightly nicer than the COGA but it’s seriously outclassed by all the other options.
It’s almost like saying one of the jackets is more adventageous than the other because it’s a little bit of a tighter fit and so you can hide easier.
It’s barely an advantage IMO.[/QUOTE]
Barely an advantage is still an advantage. And besides, it provides full peripheral vision which can be incredibly useful when trying to protect a chokepoint from a distance.
Can someone please post a screenshot comparing looking through a GreenEye to looking through a COGA?
Thanks,
JJ
[QUOTE=Jimmy James;368115]Can someone please post a screenshot comparing looking through a GreenEye to looking through a COGA?
Thanks,
JJ[/QUOTE]
This thread (http://www.splashdamage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25885) has it in the very first post.
Well i preordered an got my bonuses
would be rather pissed if they are going to be sold/given to ppl that didnt preorder tbh.
Look at all the “YESS ALL” votes. Of course people are going to want something for free if you ask them for it.
Tough luck if you ask me. Give em a Greeneye if it shuts em up
Ha ha ha! That is epic! In addition to giving you peripheral vision, the dot in the middle of the Greeneye is smaller, making it less obstructive.
I could see how people may be bothered by this but since I don’t use a scope it really doesn’t affect me. My wife usually plays the sniper in games where that option is viable but with Brink she hasn’t even considered the possibility of using a scope. Too much CQC.
However, there is a distinct advantage to the Greeneye, just like there is an advantage to having two CARB-9s as your loadout (made 3-Star Escort Duty Challenge a breeze btw) but I still think that pre-order content should be exclusive to the people who chose to pre-order and what package they decided on.
Think of it as gambling. Everyone loves gambling right? And just like gambling, with a pre-order bonus your throw your money away and sometimes you win, but if you aren’t even at the table you don’t get to play. And, uh, well **** I think I had a bit too much coffee so I’m just going to stop this analogy now.
-JJ
the game moves too fast to stay ADS all the time, which is the only way that the GE gives any appreciable benefit over COGA. i use ADS for a few seconds (at most) at a time, b/c renders you stationary and stationary = dead in this game. Plus the sensitivity is such that it’s not all that easy to quickly swing to the periphery - even if you can see it.
just look at the two railings in the COGA picture. you can the entire area that matters for a quick ADS, plus the frame of the GE blocks out key areas the COGA does not.
i have the greeneye, but use red dot or AIS more and more b/c the sensitivity is better.
To be honest, when looking at them side by side the coga is better for a sniper and there are better scopes for non-snipers.
The coga gives more visibility around the target at the cost of peripheral vision. The greeneye has the body of the scope covering the immediate area around the target making it harder (not by too much, but still) to keep a target centered. In the end I’d say they’re very similar advantage wise.
If giving the greeneye away will keep people quiet then maybe they should just give it away, but i suspect that as soon as you do that then people will claim some of the clothing gives you a minor advantage and so we should give away the clothes and then you may as well give everything away.
Are the “reskinned” weapons actually a different model? because then they give an advantage by taking up less screen space with gun… etc.
But TBH I don’t actually feel very strongly either way. I like having my preorder stuff as a special “thanks for having faith” but if everyone else gets it it’s not really going to make a functional difference in the game.
Why not? It might bring a few people back for a few days. At this stage of the game, everything is good to bring back players, even for a short amount of time.
zenstar: re-skinned guns (ie. DOOM bulpdaun) give you an option to have different attachments on the gun because the normal and the doom version are treated as two different guns and each has their own slot.
let them have the preorder packs for 400 msp per pack.
the greeneye is the dumbest sight available. i couldnt care in the least if it equips faster and has more periph than the coga, because you lose a TON of view directly around your target.
People keep saying giving those that didn’t pre-order from retailers providing the Spec Ops pack the greeneye would be good to basically shut up people complaining about something that isn’t a big deal, but the fact still remains it’s a pre-order only item, and if it is given out to everyone, those that got the Spec Ops pack will have lost one of their items received for buying the game early. If they make the greeneye available for all, I would also like 2 carbs and 2 bulpadauns, since I use those weapons often, and it provides and unfair advantage to those who have access to 2 of them when everyone else doesn’t.
See how this works? They basically either have to make sure everyone gets the rehashed versions of at least SMGs in the packs, which means 3/4 of the people who pre-ordered the game would be losing some of their exclusive content because those that didn’t receive anything keep complaining about something that again, really isn’t an issue. I own the greeneye and only use it for like, 10-15% of my gun setups, and even then a RDS or iron sights work just as well for me, if not better in many situations.
Either way, SD is going to piss off one group of people by adding/continuing to withhold pre-order items from normal players, whether it be those that had faith in the game at release and bought it early, or those who bought it later and keep complaining is completely up to them.
[QUOTE=Tom12121112;368195]let them have the preorder packs for 400 msp per pack.
the greeneye is the dumbest sight available. i couldnt care in the least if it equips faster and has more periph than the coga, because you lose a TON of view directly around your target.[/QUOTE]
I don’t have the Greeneye so I’m just going off the pics, but it looks similar view wise to the Red Dot. Might you use this scope effectively in place of the Red Dot rather than the COGA and get the same/similar results?
lol WHAT?
nobody is going to come back to this game because they released the greeneye sight.