Pre-order Bonus, why don't let them become free?

(Sand0kan) #1

I got the game since day one, but I have the standard version, and love it so far. We are now several months after the launch and the game is cheaper, even the special edition. I’m wondering why keeping the pre-order bonus exclusive to a few marketplaces while the special edition can be found cheaper than the standard game at day one? Why not let everybody able to use those, specially if it add advantage ingame (i’m thinking about the greeneye scope in the spec ops pack, the one i’m looking for)? That will be great for those who support the game since the begining without preordered it, and it’ll add dersity in the game (I know that the other stuff are just new skin for a item)

ps: sorry for my bad english

(Hot-Wire) #2

Yeah I wouldn’t mind them releasing the preorder bonuses later on.

The green eye scope needs to be enjoyed by all.

(Kurushi) #3

Because people paid for them?

(Hot-Wire) #4

No one paid for them >_>.

They were free bonuses for preorder at certain locations.

Everybody still paid the same price for the game.

(thesuzukimethod) #5

if you make the pre-order bonuses available after the fact, they are no longer a bonus for those who pre-ordered and you run the risk of all those people who got the bonus saying “well s–t then, i’m not pre-ordering (at full MSRP), i’m just gonna wait and buy the game on sale, and pick up the bonuses as DLC”

it’s a careful balance between monetizing what was an exclusive bonus for the most enthusiastic customers, and keeping it exclusive and not making the bread you might selling the DLC.

besides, it would totally wreck the ebay gougers secondary market…lol

(Darksider) #6

They’re called Bonuses for a reason…

(yuval152) #7

I think they should make them free for the people who didn’t sell it pre-owend

(Hot-Wire) #8

[QUOTE=thesuzukimethod;363389]if you make the pre-order bonuses available after the fact, they are no longer a bonus for those who pre-ordered and you run the risk of all those people who got the bonus saying “well s–t then, i’m not pre-ordering (at full MSRP), i’m just gonna wait and buy the game on sale, and pick up the bonuses as DLC”

it’s a careful balance between monetizing what was an exclusive bonus for the most enthusiastic customers, and keeping it exclusive and not making the bread you might selling the DLC.

besides, it would totally wreck the ebay gougers secondary market…lol[/QUOTE]

Well yeah, but every game that I’ve played so far follows the model of releasing preorder bonuses later.

Mortal Kombat, yep
MAG, yep
Street Fighter IV, yep

and it goes on.

But anyways it is illegal to sell codes on ebay anyways.

You order it to have access to it earlier then others, is the way I look at it.

And buying the game at full retail ain’t a reason for making bonuses 1 time exclusives, since if you were anticipating the game anyways, you were going to pick it up day 1 or at least week 1 anyways.

(Sand0kan) #9

In a sense he’s right but at the time of the launch. Now, there are no differences between every version of the game except it’s cheaper than at day one, it’s make no sense anymore. I’m talking about that specially for the greeneye scope, having a can of coke on my gun or not, don’t really matter.

(thesuzukimethod) #10

[QUOTE=Hot-Wire;363400]Well yeah, but every game that I’ve played so far follows the model of releasing preorder bonuses later.

Mortal Kombat, yep
MAG, yep
Street Fighter IV, yep

and it goes on.

But anyways it is illegal to sell codes on ebay anyways.[/QUOTE]

some dev/pubs do, some devs/pubs dont.

not illegal bro.

(Jimmy James) #11

To answer the title: Because it would piss me off!

Cheers,
JJ

(Hot-Wire) #12

[QUOTE=thesuzukimethod;363402]some dev/pubs do, some devs/pubs dont.

not illegal bro.[/QUOTE]

Yeah it’s illegal bro. I’ve had socom codes on Ebay getting taken down on the second day with a warning from Ebay.

(Sand0kan) #13

It’s already the case http://www.game.co.uk/Games/PC-Games-and-Downloads/Shooter-First-Person/Brink-Special-Edition/~r354221/?s=brink

(thesuzukimethod) #14

takedowns mean someone lodged a complaint not that it’s illegal. as long as you are selling the actual DLC card with code, and not just the code (that you email), you are fine. (Ebay prohibits the sale of “digital” i.e. non material items)

edited to add: vinegar+water ebay sellers will lodge complaints against competing auctions so theirs is the only one

(Hot-Wire) #15

[QUOTE=thesuzukimethod;363408]takedowns mean someone lodged a complaint not that it’s illegal. as long as you are selling the actual DLC card with code, and not just the code (that you email), you are fine. (Ebay prohibits the sale of “digital” i.e. non material items)

edited to add: vinegar+water ebay sellers will lodge complaints against competing auctions so theirs is the only one[/QUOTE]

This is the message I got

Beta codes and accounts are not allowed on eBay. Do not relist.

Copyright infringement is unlawful and against eBay’s policies. Copyright is the protection provided by law to the authors of creative works, such as movies, music, software, photographs and books, both published and unpublished. Copyright owners possess the exclusive right to reproduce the copyrighted work, to distribute copies of the copyrighted work, and to perform or display the copyrighted work publicly.

eBay prohibits the listing of unauthorized copies of copyrighted works. Unauthorized copies include (but are not limited to) backup, pirated, duplicated, or bootlegged copies.

Guideline: If the product you are selling is a copy of another work that you aren’t authorized to copy, don’t list the item. Beta software, test software and evaluation software are not permitted on eBay. These are pre-release copies of software distributed by software developers strictly for the purpose of evaluation and troubleshooting. Distribution of such copies violates the software developers’ copyrights.

You need to obtain the manufacturer’s consent to sell this kind of software.

For more information visit the following Help page:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/beta.html

For more information visit the following Help page:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/replica-counterfeit.html

You may need to take a tutorial. The next time you sell, you may be asked to take the tutorial, if it’s required. Once you’ve completed the tutorial successfully, please review your account status for any other possible concerns. If there are no other issues, you should be able to sell again.

To take the intellectual property tutorial, please visit:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/tutorial/verotutorial/intro.html

Please be aware that any additional violations of this policy may result in the suspension of your account. eBay understands that you may be concerned about this situation.

Preorder DLCs are no different.

(RGS) #16

Just sell the pre-oder stuff as a DLC pack six months or so after release. I don’t think SD should just give this stuff away, but a small DLC released a reasonable time after launch is fine by me.

Those that have the SE and/or pre-ordered should get all the other pre-order content for free at the time of the DLC launch as a thank you for their support.

Have said this before - This is what CA did with Empire:TW and it went down very well. They haven’t yet done it with Napoleon + therefore no one (other then the odd eBay code buyer) has a truly complete version of the game. This is then frustrating for everyone.

IMO anyway.

(glad I already have the Green Eye ;))

(AnthonyDa) #17

Illegal on Ebay != illegal everywhere :slight_smile:

(thesuzukimethod) #18

selling an advance beta code and selling a pre-order DLC code are not the same thing.

the beta agreement almost certainly has a waiver/agreement that you agreed to not to sell or distribute.

you are right, what you did was illegal (or at least violated IP regs)

(gooey79) #19

Trying to sell a beta account/code is different from selling ‘DLC’ codes (which essentially is what it is).

There are still Special Editions out there for sale that have codes inside. It would be somewhat cheeky to release these as ‘free’ when people are still paying a little more to get them with the game.

(Hot-Wire) #20

[QUOTE=thesuzukimethod;363413]selling an advance beta code and selling a pre-order DLC code are not the same thing.

the beta agreement almost certainly has a waiver/agreement that you agreed to not to sell or distribute.

you are right, what you did was illegal (or at least violated IP regs)[/QUOTE]

Did not see any sort of agreement, since I got the code from buying Killzone 3, nor did I sign or agree upon anything before receiving it.

the beta code was a “preorder” incentive to pick up Killzone 3, so what say you?