Pre-order Bonus, why don't let them become free?

(Sand0kan) #41

You right. I would never pay to have a advantage in a multiplayer shooter. Maps and comestic stuff why not.

(MrFoxer) #42

I’ll assume you’re referring to the green eye scope? Which happens to be exactly the same as the COGA, so there’s almost no advantage there, it’s a scope, not a weapon, that’s enough to stop you from enjoying the game?

(Sand0kan) #43

Of course you right, I don’t think that the greeneye scope turn you into godmod. In fact , I don’t use the COGA often because of the sensitivity and the none peripheral vision. I play brink in low resolution because of my hardware and it’s really hard to look at far away, I thought that the greeneye can really help.

Maybe I’m trolling a bit trying to satisfy my wanted, but in the other way I’ve spend more than 100 hrs in Brink and new weapons (or just skin) are welcome considering their numbers in the basic sets.

(Vlad) #44

If there was a pack with the Fallout tattoos, the Doom ones, etc and the gun additions I would definitely consider buying it.

I preordered from GameGears to get the steelbook version and so I missed out on any preorder bonus.

However I’m not understanding the argument I spotted a bit of above about why should people that might not have preordered be allowed to just buy this stuff, to me that just seems like a childish and rather petty way to think.
I’ve got plenty of preorder bonus stuff over time and it doesn’t bother me if it’s released later, just means that other fans get to enjoy the same thing as I have and it’s good in case you missed out, especially when it’s this frankly crappy method of fragmenting several bonuses over various retailers.
Then on top of that it means the money goes to the developers/publishers, not somebody on eBay that is just out to make money off of the fans, sometimes a ridiculous amount if you remember the Mortal Kombat codes at release or the Halo Reach Legendary stuff at release too going for like £40.

(dabis) #45

People who bought the original release copies of the game bought it for ~$20 more than the game is worth in stores now. It’s only fair they should keep their extra content while people who buy the game for cheap at this point don’t get it. There’s a reason they are called pre-order bonuses, not pre-order/free in a month or two bonuses.

(iezza) #46

cos i payed extra for my special edition. there. anyway GReeneye is Op so i want 2 keep ma advantage.

(Sand0kan) #47

People who bought the original release don’t necessarily have bonus content, it’s only if you order it on a certain marketplace.

lulz

(dabis) #48

[QUOTE=Sand0kan;363509]People who bought the original release don’t necessarily have bonus content, it’s only if you order it on a certain marketplace.

lulz[/QUOTE]

I don’t know where you bought it from, but every store that sells video games where I live was selling Brink copies that included one of the bonus packs, so anyone who bought a physical copy of the game in my city anytime around the release date got one of them.

(Sand0kan) #49

The store where I bought it gave dlc bonus only for pre-order or internet purshase, even if you purshased it at day one in the store.

(Baiken6609) #50

They should. It’s been long enough. Mortal combat released 7 preorder skins and fatalities almost a month later after the release. They should give us all the preorder bonuses available for 560 mspoints or 7 dollars

(Glyph) #51

I’ve stated this previously but there needs to be a Green Eye Scope equivalent in Brink for those that did not pre-order from Walmart or get the Special Edition. The COGA has the same level of zoom as the Green Eye but that is the only thing that the two scopes have in common; anyone stating otherwise is simply misinformed or ignorant to the facts.

In the end, I am absolutely fine with keeping the pre-order items unique so long as they do not affect the gameplay. The Green Eye Scope, however, does have an effect upon the balance of the gameplay as it provides a potential advantage that cannot be gained by anyone without this item, a peripheral field of vision along with a higher level of zoom.

(felismenari) #52

[QUOTE=Glyph;363781]I’ve stated this previously but there needs to be a Green Eye Scope equivalent in Brink for those that did not pre-order from Walmart or get the Special Edition. The COGA has the same level of zoom as the Green Eye but that is the only thing that the two scopes have in common; anyone stating otherwise is simply misinformed or ignorant to the facts.

In the end, I am absolutely fine with keeping the pre-order items unique so long as they do not affect the gameplay. The Green Eye Scope, however, does have an effect upon the balance of the gameplay as it provides a potential advantage that cannot be gained by anyone without this item, a peripheral field of vision along with a higher level of zoom.[/QUOTE]

That’s what I’ve been sayin’. It’s unfair for only some of the community to have access to items that affect gameplay in a multiplayer game.

(Sand0kan) #53

If they took the opportunity to add a similar scope as the greeneye with the DLC, that would solve the problem.

I want my dam scope.

(Glyph) #54

[QUOTE=Sand0kan;364981]If they took the opportunity to add a similar scope as the greeneye with the DLC, that would solve the problem.

I want my dam scope.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, they basically need to just reskin the GreenEye and add it to the game to make it balanced. The funny thing is that SD went on record prior to release and stated that every pre-order item has an in-game equivalent except for the clothing so there would not be any balance issues. EPIC FAIL on this one.

(Nexolate) #55

You mean how the Greeneye provides the exact same zoom as the COGA?

Regards,
Nexo

(ZionDelhamorte) #56

[QUOTE=Nexolate;365093]You mean how the Greeneye provides the exact same zoom as the COGA?

Regards,
Nexo[/QUOTE]

It provides same zoom but it blinds your perifferal sorry for spelling…

(Glyph) #57

[QUOTE=Nexolate;365093]You mean how the Greeneye provides the exact same zoom as the COGA?

Regards,
Nexo[/QUOTE]

If that is your honest opinion then you need to do some research first. Here is another thread using actual screenshots to demonstrate the differences between the two scopes. I’d suggest taking a look at them since your opinion is obviously ignorant to the facts.

(Nexolate) #58

And your eyes apparently need to be tested. Same zoom.

Okay, being serious. Yes, the COGA blocks out peripheral vision but the Greeneye blocks out some of the immediate vision. I.e. You can only see a very small area around the point of focus unlike the COGA’s much wider scope size. If I had to choose for a scope, I’d pick the COGA because I get a much larger aiming area to observe my target.

As for the equip speed penalty, honestly I’ve never felt cheated out of a kill because someone had a Greeneye. I mean in what circumstance would having a slightly faster equip speed benefit you in an engagement other than if they pull out their sidearm? I mean if they had a chance to do that then it means you probably missed a bunch of your shots anyway.

Regards,
Nexo

(Glyph) #59

[QUOTE=Nexolate;365110]And your eyes apparently need to be tested. Same zoom.

Okay, being serious. Yes, the COGA blocks out peripheral vision but the Greeneye blocks out some of the immediate vision. I.e. You can only see a very small area around the point of focus unlike the COGA’s much wider scope size.

As for the equip speed penalty, honestly I’ve never felt cheated out of a kill because someone had a Greeneye. I mean in what circumstance would having a slightly faster equip speed benefit you in an engagement other than if they pull out their sidearm? I mean if they had a chance to do that then it means you probably missed a bunch of your shots anyway.

Regards,
Nexo[/QUOTE]

If you had read this thread you would note that I am well aware that the zoom levels are identical and never stated otherwise. In the end you have noted all of the differences between the scopes so if you truly feel that they are ‘balanced’ against one another then that it your opinion but it does not make the differences the same in any way. I’d much rather have the Greeneye’s peripheral vision and equip speed for my Sea Eagle yet I am forced to use the COGA as I have no alternative to use in-game. Just because you feel they are close enough does not prove that there is an equivalent item to the Greeneye in-game.

(Nexolate) #60

Ah, for a sidearm (especially a range-oriented one like the Seagle), I can somewhat understand why the prospect of peripheral vision and equip speed might be beneficial to you. I was simply basing my observations around two-handed weapons where those aspects aren’t as advantageous.

Honestly, I don’t know why they aren’t identical. Maybe SD thought that a Z-Point scope is far too small to use the COGA’s huge scope overlay? Maybe that same reasoning also made them reduce the equip speed penalty because it’s “lighter”? I would still like to see a comment on this issue, considering how frequently it gets brought up.

Tbh if the reasons speculated above are the case, then they should have either used a different scope or made it an equivalent for the various Red Dot Sights in the game.

Regards,
Nexo