Phantom Complaint Master Thread

(Jojack) #61

[quote=“Fuze;41090”][quote=“Jojack;41077”][quote=“Sniff;41068”]That’s the thing though. He isn’t hard to counter. Shoot him in the face. Don’t let him get close.

The tankyness is kind of bs but aside from that he should be left alone.[/quote]

Shoot a guy in the face that has more HP than rhino and is trick jumping all over the map with no regard for aiming? All the while his teammates are shooting YOU in the face? And oh yeah, once you reload he insta kills you. Yeah, not hard to counter at all.

edit - and yes, if you removed the armor I’d be fine with him as is.[/quote]

You really should stop claiming he has more HP than Rhino. he only has a significant boost in armor the very moment he activates his shield. From there, it’s being drained and the lower it gets, the less armor he has. Then include the fact that it also drains by damage taken and you soon realize that there’s only a few seconds where Phantom has any sort of tanking capability.[/quote]

Can Rhino survive airstrikes? Kira Lazors? Fragger nades and still have full health? I said he has more effective hp than Rhino. He does. Show me where I’m wrong.

(sensitiveBicycle) #62

I can’t agree more with this class ruining the game for me personally. I have been playing this game for a just about 2 months and now just because of this class it has drastically reduced my enjoyment in this game. I don’t think one class should so drastically impact a game. I get that it’s the only stealth class, but Vasille is the only sniper class, but he still feels very balanced, even if the person using Vasille class is very skilled. I instantly was like nope, don’t really want to play anymore, with a ninja running around trying to chop me down in a game that is mainly about shooting. Just me personally, I am pretty decent at the game, this class to me just feels like an unneeded addition to an amazing game.

(sensitiveBicycle) #63

Here’s the thing. It takes a large deal of effort to kill him. While your attempting to shoot him, your just such an easy target, you can’t run and hide in cover in the way you could if you were getting attacked by 2 regular mercs because then he’s right on top of you crushing you. I dunno I can’t agree more with this post, just ruined the feel of this game for me, and I really love it. I made this forum account which I NEVER do, just to jump in on this discussion.

(spaceDay) #64

People cry so much I don’t know why like you can counter him easy and freaking chill why quit the game?. Your not enoying the game cause of 1 merc wow that’s just very stupid in my opinion Splash damage will do some work on him stop complaining already he just came out today god damn freaking chill people

(sensitiveBicycle) #65

No that’s it exactly…I’ve logged over 150 hours on this game…played 3-4 games with a phantom in it and instantly wanted to stop playing.

(watsyurdeal) #66

Then don’t play as him???

(Fuze) #67

[quote=“Jojack;41094”][quote=“Fuze;41090”][quote=“Jojack;41077”][quote=“Sniff;41068”]That’s the thing though. He isn’t hard to counter. Shoot him in the face. Don’t let him get close.

The tankyness is kind of bs but aside from that he should be left alone.[/quote]

Shoot a guy in the face that has more HP than rhino and is trick jumping all over the map with no regard for aiming? All the while his teammates are shooting YOU in the face? And oh yeah, once you reload he insta kills you. Yeah, not hard to counter at all.

edit - and yes, if you removed the armor I’d be fine with him as is.[/quote]

You really should stop claiming he has more HP than Rhino. he only has a significant boost in armor the very moment he activates his shield. From there, it’s being drained and the lower it gets, the less armor he has. Then include the fact that it also drains by damage taken and you soon realize that there’s only a few seconds where Phantom has any sort of tanking capability.[/quote]

Can Rhino survive airstrikes? Kira Lazors? Fragger nades and still have full health? I said he has more effective hp than Rhino. He does. Show me where I’m wrong.[/quote]

You don’t seem to understand that Rhino doesn’t need to “survive with full health” because he has double the hp than most mercs. With that said, in what world does Phantom escape airstrikes and lasers unharmed? Have you even played him? For fks sake, even their Roll Call video shows that Skyhammers marker explosion does enough damage to break Phantoms armor at its best (freshly activated).

Skip to 30 seconds into the video for proof.

(poshTackle) #68

why should his armour even protect him from bullets? it doesent seem that bulletproof when blood poors out of his scull as you land a magazine of headshots on him and he still rushes on, to slash you into sushi with his magic 1 swipe 1 kill knife that has a range of severual meters. it could have made more sense if it protected him from melee damage instead…? any dews reading…? o:)

(sensitiveBicycle) #69

@Watsyurdeal let me correct what I said, played in a game with that class in that game.

(watsyurdeal) #70

Then figure it out, whether they nerf him or not you’re still going to have to put up with it for a week.

(Amerika) #71

Long jumps are pretty neat I hear :slight_smile:

(poshTackle) #72

explotions dont always drain the armor… i have played him stood under an airstrike and nothing happened to me or the armor… gg wp dews

(poshTackle) #73

its not just him beeng tanky and having a 1 shoot blade thats annoying… its his ability to randomly appear on the mg waching ur spawn that is the problem… i mostly play in pubs and im not a very good player, but when a phantom is able to hold my team constantly dead for just under 10 minutes (untill someone on my team swiched to phantom and killed the enemy phantom) i consider the cloak a bit 2 op, and the armor should protect u from explosives and mele not bullets… half his head aint even covered with anything!!! i have later gotten him myself and i dont enjoy playing him, not cuz his hard to play (he abselotely isnt) but becos of the simple fact that i play fps games to shoot not 360 melee in enemy spawn…

(Reddeadcap) #74

[quote=“Fuze;41135”][quote=“Jojack;41094”][quote=“Fuze;41090”][quote=“Jojack;41077”][quote=“Sniff;41068”]That’s the thing though. He isn’t hard to counter. Shoot him in the face. Don’t let him get close.

The tankyness is kind of bs but aside from that he should be left alone.[/quote]

Shoot a guy in the face that has more HP than rhino and is trick jumping all over the map with no regard for aiming? All the while his teammates are shooting YOU in the face? And oh yeah, once you reload he insta kills you. Yeah, not hard to counter at all.

edit - and yes, if you removed the armor I’d be fine with him as is.[/quote]

You really should stop claiming he has more HP than Rhino. he only has a significant boost in armor the very moment he activates his shield. From there, it’s being drained and the lower it gets, the less armor he has. Then include the fact that it also drains by damage taken and you soon realize that there’s only a few seconds where Phantom has any sort of tanking capability.[/quote]

Can Rhino survive airstrikes? Kira Lazors? Fragger nades and still have full health? I said he has more effective hp than Rhino. He does. Show me where I’m wrong.[/quote]

You don’t seem to understand that Rhino doesn’t need to “survive with full health” because he has double the hp than most mercs. With that said, in what world does Phantom escape airstrikes and lasers unharmed? Have you even played him? For fks sake, even their Roll Call video shows that Skyhammers marker explosion does enough damage to break Phantoms armor at its best (freshly activated).

Skip to 30 seconds into the video for proof.

Note: Surprisingly, an Arty strike can kill phantom due to the explosions being all ij one area rather than Sky’s.

@Sniff Heart beat sensors detect, thus deactivate cloak, Redeye infrared detects as well, meaning he can also deactivate Phantom’s cloak just by turning on his IR goggle.
We might need another recon that will detect.

(flightyPlot) #75

the problem right now is 80% of players have no idea how to fight him. he’s new and he’s not like most mercs if the spin to win thing is true that could use a fix (anyone know if this happens with all melee weapons or just the katana?) i’ve noticed that as long as i keep an eye out i can usually live the problem is i’ve never had to keep an eye out for a silhouette in this game so sometimes i forget. Imma just take a short break from the game while people learn to play against him so my entire team isn’t dead and or quitting from being owned by a phantom.

(fitBuffet) #76

Stealth ruins games. You want dirty bomb to be fun? Don’t include mechanics that generate hate.

(LJK) #77

Still enjoying, had great games with Sawbonez yesterday. Killing Phantoms then reviving their victims, easy.
Phantom seems strong in a messy 8v8 Pub, rekting unnoticed in all the chaos. But in a more organized 6v6, you see him coming.

(fitBuffet) #78

Not really. There are other games to play.

(Mayple) #79

Well I wouldn’t consider Phantom completely over powered, his concept as a merc in general is just not fun to play against. Getting killed by him is just frustrating, and I feel like it slows the pace of the game down quite a bit. Instead of scanning the area for the fast moving mercs I now have to pay very close attention to any little ghost movement which is completely opposite what the rest of the game feels like.

Regardless I agree with OP that its become a lot less fun to play with him in the game on either team, but it isn’t because I have trouble killing him.

(Deathicael) #80

Bads who play Phantom are easy to kill , its the skilled players that can go 50+ kills a round with him shutting down the other teams supports with little to no opposition. Good phantoms dont attack anyone they cant 1 shot and they just run through the chaos mowing down the squishes and vanishing only to return if they see an opportunity to finish everyone else.

The shield’s too strong, it recharges too fast, and he has too much HP.