Phantom Complaint Master Thread

(Kaos88) #1

I am merging all general complaint threads into this one. Please see the other Phantom threads for constructive suggestions. ~Ardez

Im sorry but wtf? Why is a class like this even in a shooter? There is no skill needed in this type of character. He is just annoying as fuck. there is no 1v1 battle. You just have to be lucky to not fall victim to him. You can’t see him coming and he does waay too much f***ing damage. Who’s idea was this char lol? I started to re-love this game after not playing it for over a year and only just started playing again when it came to steam with my brother ( buying the starter pack and 10 crates. Really regretting that now i should of waited >.< ). We have now just pretty much quit it instantly and playing other games for now. It’s just such a cheap class. Even if you only die a few times to him and he sucks. You just feel cheated. You are not given a good enough chance to see who has better aim / reaction speed / movement. You are just dead. I have never liked stealth in any game. But this shit is just ridiculous.

I already know the replies i will get from this from Phantom fan boys ect. “oh you are just a noob who don’t know how to fight against him” lol i have played plenty of FPS games in my time and like to play at a high lvl. Not gonna name them all as whats the point, im not just “a bad player”. This guy is just cheap. Anything that doesn’t promote skill shouldn’t be in the game simple. :wink:

/yupitsarant

(Ghosthree3) #2

Ok.

(Mr-Penguin) #3

Wut?

(Kaos88) #4

[quote=“Ghosthree3;40766”]Ok.[/quote]Nice post count mate. Keep going you will be at 1k in no time and with those helpful constructive comments too :wink:

(Ghosthree3) #5

You’re off to a good start yourself.

(Ardez1) #6

While he may have some strong aspects, I doubt his invisibility is the stronger. That damage shield is too strong for my liking imho.

If your issue is just with invisibility I wish you luck, as they won’t be taking away that feature. He is detectable and you can spot him with your eye if he is moving fast enough.

Try staying on the move more. Standing still is a deathwish. Most mercs can outrun Phantom if you just stay mobile.

(Hipolipolopigus) #7

Can’t wait to see 8v8 Phantom matches when he goes into free rotation.

Er… Not “see”… You get what I mean.

(APRenpsy) #8

I thought I mention this. Phantom does have a counter, aka Vassili. He can’t cloak when in the radius of a sensor.

A good Vassili who knows how to position his sensor can easily shutdown a Phantom. No cloak no invisible, no tanking, no melee.

The only thing that really needs a nerf is the heavy attack on his Katana, the ability to hit even when you miss is broken, especially when you consider the amount of damage it can do.

(PurpleNurple) #9

[quote=“APRenpsy;40801”]

The only thing that really needs a nerf is the heavy attack on his Katana, the ability to hit even when you miss is broken, especially when you consider the amount of damage it can do.[/quote]
Spin to win!

(APRenpsy) #10

[quote=“PurpleNurple;40805”][quote=“APRenpsy;40801”]

The only thing that really needs a nerf is the heavy attack on his Katana, the ability to hit even when you miss is broken, especially when you consider the amount of damage it can do.[/quote]
Spin to win!
[/quote]

Believe it or not that is actually possible as of right now.

(Kaos88) #11

I post when i feel i want to voice something. I have had this account for ages yet only have 6 post. while you put “ok”.

It has changed the way you play the game now. You play nervous and on edge looking for a shadow which if you shoot doesn’t do anything anyway. He can also just kill you with his SMG if he needs to but mainly just out of nowhere ( killing more than 1 person with 1 swing at times )

It really is just like playing Chivary or Mount and blade now. Just joined a lobby with 4 of them. It’s just pointless. Doesn’t feel like the same game i played just a few days ago. You can’t just have the better aim anymore. You have to keep looking behind you. Just changed the feel. Can’t even explain it. Tbh you can say your negative comments all you want. I’m just gonna stop playing for a bit. Games are to have fun. If the fun stops there is no point. I was playing other games before this anyway. My bro only started playing it cuz his clan was. Never mind i was enjoying it up until today i’ll move on no prob.

(XavienX) #12

Omfg…all these threads…2 weeks ago it was Rhino, now Phantom.

  1. First of all, as shown in the E3 trailer, Vassili and Phantom counter each other. And seriously, if you pay attention, you can see Phantom, I have only been meleed by a Phantom few times, it really isn’t that hard.
  2. If he attacks you, he becomes visible…so he isn’t a bullet sponge, unless he is trying to escape, which won’t even kill you, you can just track him since his refractive armor has cooldown time.
  3. That’s not a argument, that’s a rant like what happened to Rhino and now no one even bothers to care anymore, just try out Phantom yourself and you’ll see.
(Amerika) #13

Melee focused merc does better in melee range than other mercs. I am shocked and appalled by this turn of events :slight_smile:

Also, every single time a new merc comes out or one goes on free rotation many in the community, particularly less experienced players, claim that they are OP. I played him and against quite a few people with him over lunch. I wouldn’t call him good but not OP. Very annoying however when they choose to hide and attack + run a lot which makes him less effective overall. But it also makes him annoying…which is completely different than being OP which some people can’t quite differentiate between sometimes.

Annoying does not mean OP.

(Hibbsan) #14

Every single time a new character comes you whine and spam the forums so much. Enough. Phantom have his counters as stated above. A good Vasilli can completely stop a Phantom from going into stealth at all. This is just like how you whine about Naders Martydom. Her Martydom is so easy to dodge when you know how. Learn your counters for Phantom and he will be just like Nader.

(PurpleNurple) #15

[quote=“APRenpsy;40806”][quote=“PurpleNurple;40805”][quote=“APRenpsy;40801”]

The only thing that really needs a nerf is the heavy attack on his Katana, the ability to hit even when you miss is broken, especially when you consider the amount of damage it can do.[/quote]
Spin to win!
[/quote]

Believe it or not that is actually possible as of right now.[/quote]

That’s actually what i’ve been doing lol. Enemies all around you? Right click and spin! :stuck_out_tongue:

(Disquieted1) #16

[quote=“Kaos88;40808”]I post when i feel i want to voice something. I have had this account for ages yet only have 6 post. while you put “ok”.

It has changed the way you play the game now. You play nervous and on edge looking for a shadow which if you shoot doesn’t do anything anyway. He can also just kill you with his SMG if he needs to but mainly just out of nowhere ( killing more than 1 person with 1 swing at times )

It really is just like playing Chivary or Mount and blade now. Just joined a lobby with 4 of them. It’s just pointless. Doesn’t feel like the same game i played just a few days ago. You can’t just have the better aim anymore. You have to keep looking behind you. Just changed the feel. Can’t even explain it. Tbh you can say your negative comments all you want. I’m just gonna stop playing for a bit. Games are to have fun. If the fun stops there is no point. I was playing other games before this anyway. My bro only started playing it cuz his clan was. Never mind i was enjoying it up until today i’ll move on no prob.[/quote]

I’m not going to stop playing, but I have to agree with everything else.

(Yak) #17

[quote=“XavienH5;40815”]
2. If he attacks you, he becomes visible…so he isn’t a bullet sponge, unless he is trying to escape, which won’t even kill you, you can just track him since his refractive armor has cooldown time.[/quote]

It’s rather hard to shoot him as his katana is piercing your chest because he long jumped you while armored up. My problem isn’t with his invisibility, speed, or weapons, its the fact his armor absorbs up to 70 damage free. This lets him long jump at anyone and right click them, basically killing anyone who isn’t Rhino.

Then there’s the slow animation which allows you to spin rapidly and hit multiple targets, and if you happened to kill someone and swing back over them in that same animation, you gib them as well.

(Soulfighter) #18
  1. He’s not invisible, you can see him very well, especially when he sprints
  2. He constantly makes a high pitched noise when he’s invisible that you can easily hear through walls
  3. He’s marginally slower than all the squishy class, even when they have their smg out and he’s wielding his katana
  4. He only has one ability
  5. His katana kills squishies with a single heavy hit, just like the stiletto prior to this patch and just like ALL the melee weapons with the +20% perk.
  6. Vassili’s Heartbeat completely prevents him from using his ability. Can’t even use the damage shield.

If you have a problem with Phantom it just means you don’t have any awerness of your environment AT ALL and make very poor use of the advanced movement system in the game.

(meditativePillar) #19

Other people have pointed out that Phantom can cloak and run straight at you. You chew through ammo taking the shield down and then you are left needing a reload and he is in melee range. GG.

The damage absorb is OP.

(Eddie) #20

Knife to meet you, To meet you knife :smiley: