Overwatch and the future of Dirty Bomb

(Fate_6) #41

Are you serious? Like, serious? I think I’ve lost grey matter from aneurysms playing Hearthstone. RNG can mess you up so badly sometimes it’s not even funny. I mean yeah overall it isn’t enough to cost you overall wins but in those individual games, holy fucking shit make it stop.[/quote]

Hearthstone is nothing compared to the fail of Diablo 3’s release. Blizzard is also quietly letting Starcraft die (delayed expansions, failing comp scene). Oh, and HotS is basically an arcade game compared to LoL and DotA - it’s fun, but trying to take it seriously doesn’t work

(Old Man) #42

From what I have seen Overwatch is far more…accessible. The character movement is slower, the gameplay looks easier and slower too. There is quite a few “Press X to Win” skills so I’m sure the mainstream players will jump on it straight away.

Is Dirty Bomb going to survive? Possibly. The game is more skill based and faster so not everyone is going to give up on Dirty Bomb.

(Fleshpound) #43

[quote=“Old Man;60908”]From what I have seen Overwatch is far more…accessible. The character movement is slower, the gameplay looks easier and slower too. There is quite a few “Press X to Win” skills so I’m sure the mainstream players will jump on it straight away.

Is Dirty Bomb going to survive? Possibly. The game is more skill based and faster so not everyone is going to give up on Dirty Bomb. [/quote]

Also,Overwatch have too much skills.

Scout with buffs,more buffs,pushing,wallrunning and shields.

(XavienX) #44

The fact that that game doesn’t have sprint for most characters just throws me off.

(smartIsland) #45

Y’all realize I’m only here bc this is an objective based shooter… Othewise I could just play CSGO. Unless I’m wrong there are not objectives in overwatch, just classes. How are you even comparing these two

(LifeupOmega) #46

Who’s ready to play as Phantom BUT WITH A SHOTGUN? I kid, but the game looks really really dull at its core when you get past all the flashy effects and abilities. As its Blizzard it’ll probably be really, really casual player focused too, which isn’t a bad thing, but it’s not something I’ll be wanting to play - did enough of that with TF2.

Our Phantom can’t match that Reaper guy’s edginess though, the cringe factor was off the charts.

(Backuplight) #47

[quote=“LifeupOmega;61005”]Who’s ready to play as Phantom BUT WITH A SHOTGUN? I kid, but the game looks really really dull at its core when you get past all the flashy effects and abilities. As its Blizzard it’ll probably be really, really casual player focused too, which isn’t a bad thing, but it’s not something I’ll be wanting to play - did enough of that with TF2.

Our Phantom can’t match that Reaper guy’s edginess though, the cringe factor was off the charts.[/quote]

This sums up Overwatch for me. I still think it’ll be enjoyable to a point, but essentially Blizzard are masters of Hype. Heck, I just watched the new WoW Expansion trailer - I felt the hype and I don’t even play WoW :dizzy:

Whether the Overwatch lives up to it for “most people” is another thing, but for a casual crowd it’ll probably be fine. Dirty Bomb isn’t necessarily targeted at the same people I suppose? I think we’ll survive :wink:

(Yak) #48

It’ll be fun to play once on a while with friends, but I can’t see it being my main game, or even my side game. We’ll have to see though, after I play it.

(fraggyb) #49

From what I’ve seen of Overwatch I can’t say it appeals to me but I’ll give it a try just to see what it’s like. Can’t see it topping DB for me personally however.

(misspo) #50

Leavers:
-Casual player will leave
-Competitive players lurking for cash and LAN will switch on Overwatch

Blizzard is very, very good at making tournement. I’m sure there will be one big cash prize tournement at the open beta and more will follow like hearthstone.
It will not be like a csgo in regard of esport but FAR better than DB. The more hyped tournament was an online one time even at 1.5k ?

I don’t split on DB. SD doesn’t have the same power than Blizzard. But it doesn’t change the fact that competitive players who lan/lurk cash will leave DB

(KattiValk) #51

Overwatch is indeed very close to DB, but I don’t think it’s much compared to DB. The map design is better and the models are absolutely fantastic, but DB is much more interesting in gameplay IMO. I also feel like the characters in DB are better and much more rememberable.

Still, the casual crowd is likely going to crowd Overwatch. I suppose that means I won’t be able to go 50-2 soon.

(Ghosthree3) #52

Yeah pretty much, I remember error 37 and the server lag causing people to die in hc mode for weeks after release. And the game itself was garbage because of the store. Only now is it decent, but it’s far too late.

Starcraft is practically dead to me after HotS - heh same abbreviation - the story had a massive dip in quality and even one of the things Blizzard is most known for - their cinematics - were terrible. I mean they actually sent the game out with low resolution cinematics what the fuck?

HotS is actually the most successful of the 3 in the way that at least it does what it tried to do. It’s just the super casual alternative to the other big MOBAs.

(KayDubz) #53

[quote=“extravagentBypass;15822”]So I’m sure we have all heard of Overwatch by now. If not, in a shellnut it’s a new class based team shooter coming to PC soon, and developed by Blizzard. How do I know it’s coming soon? I don’t, but it was very recently added to the Battle.net launcher, so we have reason to believe a beta at least will be arriving very soon.

So that leads to my question. What do you guys think will happen to Dirty Bomb upon release of Overwatch? Will it have huge profound effects? Will we not even notice? Are they two games so different the audiences won’t mix? What do you all think?

I personally hope that the two don’t affect each other, as they are very separate games, but I can’t say for sure. We could lose a lot of the casual playerbase as they leave to go play what looks to be a much more casual game.

So what do you guys think? Discuss.[/quote]
If Overwatch is good, and if Dirty Bomb doesnt have huge progress by the fall (new maps and game modes FINISHED) then I will likely be moving over.

I know the DB dev team is small, but it’s disconcerting how slow progress has been in the time DB has been available for play.

(Mescman) #54

I don’t think Overwatch and DB are competing in the same category, as in a game about aiming skills vs. casual disney shooter for everyone. Though Blizz can start hosting massive tournaments for Overwatch, so who knows.

(Backuplight) #55

[quote=“prankishVictory;61379”]If Overwatch is good, and if Dirty Bomb doesnt have huge progress by the fall (new maps and game modes FINISHED) then I will likely be moving over.

I know the DB dev team is small, but it’s disconcerting how slow progress has been in the time DB has been available for play.[/quote]
The game will still be here, it’s not like there’s a problem with checking out other games. No matter what DB adds, I’m still likely to try out Overwatch - whether it’s for a weekend or a few weeks depends on how Blizzard does, but realistically I expect to be back in Dirty Bomb before long.

(Ghosthree3) #56

I’ll try out OW of course, I just don’t think I’m going to stick around.

(quickMicrowave) #57

Blizzard seems to always have a great product - I’ve played most of them since Diablo 1 (except for SC2) and enjoyed my time.

Although this is their first major FPS game, I’m pretty confident it will be a good AAA title and is going to drop a dirty dirty bomb on DB’s popularity - sadly.

(Dirmagnos) #58

[quote=“Amerika;60793”]
That’s the very definition of hardcore. Dirty Bomb, in some ways, is very much Quake 3 Arena. There is a lot more random elements in DB compared to Q3 but at it’s core it’s aim vs. aim.[/quote]

Hmm, no its really not. Hardcore is about depth(eg how much thought you have put into it, how much calculations it requires) and on that part DB is not that far ahead from Overwatch.
Dark Souls is hardcore, Diablo 3 is… meh. The fact that some ppl obsess with some game and attach some fictional characteristics to it, doesnt make it so.
Im not saying that Overwatch will be generally better, i like DB, since it reminds me a lot of ET, and i love it(also im not a fan of TF, that OW seems to be main competitor to). For me its mainly a question of direction that SD will take with development. If they continue with current course, keeping sight on objective(both literally and figuratively), then thumbs up; and if they start adding garbage like DM and “helping” players like adding forced MM, then frak it(there is always more fresh games on the market).
Ppl may say what they want, but main thing that make Blizzard games great is their consistency - they do what they planned to do. And they target certain audience and they stick with it. Many developers make mistake of trying to appeal to every1(and make repeated huge directional turns during course of development) and fail in the process, since their appetites does not correspond with their ability to deliver.

(watsyurdeal) #59

Maybe, but just by looking at Overwatch I can tell it’ll likely pull all of the TF2 crowd more than Dirty Bomb.

Dirty Bomb is definitely a great blend of Quake and Counter Strike imo, the difference being unlike Counter Strike, the fights are longer, and more about skill than positioning. And unlike Overwatch, it’s not about the abilites all the time, they are tactical at best, but the gunplay is primary focus, which I like.

Overwatch seems more like a RPG in FPS clothing, maybe that’s just me, I might give it a go but Dirty Bomb so far, out of every game I’ve played in the last 10 years, has felt like a breath of fresh air. Everything I needed in a shooter to enjoy it is here, and I just hope they continue to expand and fine tune it.

(Amerika) #60

[quote=“Dirmagnos;61619”][quote=“Amerika;60793”]
That’s the very definition of hardcore. Dirty Bomb, in some ways, is very much Quake 3 Arena. There is a lot more random elements in DB compared to Q3 but at it’s core it’s aim vs. aim.[/quote]

Hmm, no its really not. Hardcore is about depth(eg how much thought you have put into it, how much calculations it requires) and on that part DB is not that far ahead from Overwatch.
Dark Souls is hardcore, Diablo 3 is… meh. The fact that some ppl obsess with some game and attach some fictional characteristics to it, doesnt make it so.
Im not saying that Overwatch will be generally better, i like DB, since it reminds me a lot of ET, and i love it(also im not a fan of TF, that OW seems to be main competitor to). For me its mainly a question of direction that SD will take with development. If they continue with current course, keeping sight on objective(both literally and figuratively), then thumbs up; and if they start adding garbage like DM and “helping” players like adding forced MM, then frak it(there is always more fresh games on the market).
Ppl may say what they want, but main thing that make Blizzard games great is their consistency - they do what they planned to do. And they target certain audience and they stick with it. Many developers make mistake of trying to appeal to every1(and make repeated huge directional turns during course of development) and fail in the process, since their appetites does not correspond with their ability to deliver.[/quote]

Hardcore and depth are two different concepts. Also, the term hardcore, when referring to games, is a fluid term so multiple definitions can fit so this isn’t really much of a talking point. It changes depending on if you are talking about a game overall, aspects of gameplay or the players who play a game.

I do agree and have said multiple times that I would like SD to focus on Objective gameplay. As long as that’s the focus then I’m onboard.