No more instagibs on headshots with Vassili (kinda dumb)

[sentimentalDime]

[quote=“bizarreRectangle;105833”]I don’t like your deadeye suggestion. To be honest it doesn’t really fit with the dirty bomb abilities. It’s a bit overwatch/blizzard-like.

@cow So are you saying he may have modified the footage that he provided? I know how to deal with revives, but it wouldn’t hurt to tweak it.

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@bizarreRectangle
I know it doesn’t really fit the game, but so far i haven’t seen a better solution.

Maybe instead of just disregarding my suggestion, you could suggest your own solution.

[watsyurdeal]

Seems like the problem isn’t so much defibs as it is the Revivr…

[bizarreRectangle]

Tweaking medic revives, it was in one of my older posts. You didn’t explain why it wasn’t a good thing to get rid of insta-gibs. Would you care to explain?

[sentimentalDime]

Tweaking medic revives, it was in one of my older posts. You didn’t explain why it wasn’t a good thing to get rid of insta-gibs. Would you care to explain?

@bizarreRectangle
Who were you talking to?

And please, just tag whoever you’re trying to get into contact with, you just type @ and then the name of user.

[3N1GM4]

Second, I have 6 bullets in my clip (MoA). You’re asking me to kill 1 guy with 2 bullets. Considering I will not miss one shot. That gives me the possibility to kill 3 guys with one clip. Again, considering my accuracy is 100%. For the downed people… honestly, I’ve shot them once they got revived and 9/10 times it didn’t do shit. I would know… I play Vassili 24/7. If you do not shoot them the split second they get tapped revived you are in deep shit. I’ll get some footage of this if I can do prove my point.

That possibility is generally 3x and certainly 1.5x what all other mercs can do. Why should vasilli be so special? Especially considering with other weapons it takes another entire mag to gib them with body shots.

I can understand that the gibbing in comp may have been an issue, but it just confuses the hell out of me how skill is constantly punished and the low-skill casual players are always given free rides. If someone plays enough to be good at something, it gets nerfed. I feel like this isn’t a game that rewards or pushes skill. It is fucking HARD to snipe in DB… so it’s really rewarding when you can be a viable member of the team with him; this change is so confusing and frustrating.

Why does killing someone with direct hits from nader not gib them?
Why does a single nader grenade not gib a downed player?
Why does blowing someone up with 2 stickies not gib them?
Why does successive headshots not down and at least do damage to a players gib hp pool?
Why does power knifing someone in the back not down them?
Why does power knifing someone in the back not gib them?
It can and should be considered as literally slitting their throat, which is what you’re doing when you knife gib them.

So why would vasilli get to potentially down AND gib 5 players in one magazine?

[Sinee]

[quote=“bizarreRectangle;105712”]Well, amerika and plump had valid points. But with that video evidence I’m not sure. Maybe you can provide more?

Perhaps the time until the revivr could shoot a projectile would be increased? And maybe you can’t just tap e to revive someone with the defibs. Perhaps they have to be charged a little longer to revive.

Even if I’m playing as any other character, it’s annoying for medics to just tap e once, usually when I don’t have the time to revive. Especially when an aura or sparks is up the rhino’s ass. As a medic you should be charging up your shots anyway. And you will never get revived with just 30 hp ever again! [/quote]

I agree with these points. I play medic a huge portion of my time, and I hate tap-reviving people as much as I hate being tap-revived. It’s just half-assing to get the XP IMO. Being tap-revived in the middle of a fire-fight just so I can be killed and sadistically revived again… sometimes three or more fucking times really steams my vegetables, but that’s another discussion. Hitting K is a wonderful thing when you got some fuck ass medic with an XP mission.

I just think that if you take something away like gibbing for headshots and explosions etc, that something should be taken away from the other side too. Right now, revive trains and the medic class have become a little OP due to the lack of being able to gib.
You’re right that something should be tweaked on their end. It’s not like I’m saying something crazy and out of the depth here. This is pretty fucking logical.

It’s not that people who main Vassili can’t live with this change. It CAN be lived with, if things were tweaked. Medics, shields, magazine capacity, weapon times, whatever. Right now, this is just stupid.

[Merci1ess]

Seems like the problem isn’t so much defibs as it is the Revivr…

Nah it’s the defibs aswell. What happened in the video happens against defibs too.

[Amerika]

steams my vegetables

This is completely off-topic but damn did that make me laugh a lot more than it should have. Well said @Mercy

[avidCow]

To be fair, combat reviving is currently incredibly viable. Perhaps the time someone is still “down” while they are reviving should be increased?

SD added a window after a revive that lets you gib. For sparks this window has been increased generous window for killing a downed player.[quote=“bizarreRectangle;105833”]I don’t like your deadeye suggestion. To be honest it doesn’t really fit with the dirty bomb abilities. It’s a bit overwatch/blizzard-like.

@cow So are you saying he may have modified the footage that he provided? I know how to deal with revives, but it wouldn’t hurt to tweak it.

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No I’m not saying he modified anything. It’s possible what he is seeing is not 'syncd 100% or it’s old footage or whatever. If you knife someone or shoot someone with a sniper rifle at the exact moment they get revived, that person will die. That’s how the game works (is supposed to work)

[Sinee]

[quote=“avidCow;106064”][/quote]lmao. What. Your tinfoil hat seems a bit snug. It’s not old footage and is perfectly sync’d. We went into Execution so he can demonstrate his point in this thread, and he posted it. If you pay attention and use your eyeballs that are inside your skull, and incidentally, the brain that’s behind them, you can clearly see that this is a textured Execution map (market) which is post-CW patch where these changes were implemented.

There could be variables such as lag, but this happens all the time with defibs or whatever.

[avidCow]

[quote=“Mercy;106103”][quote=“avidCow;106064”][/quote]lmao. What. Your tinfoil hat seems a bit snug. It’s not old footage and is perfectly sync’d. We went into Execution so he can demonstrate his point in this thread, and he posted it. If you pay attention and use your eyeballs that are inside your skull, and incidentally, the brain that’s behind them, you can clearly see that this is a textured Execution map (market) which is post-CW patch where these changes were implemented.

There could be variables such as lag, but this happens all the time with defibs or whatever.[/quote]

Snarksnarksnark

Like I said, if this keeps happening, it’s not intentional and there may be another issue. I’m not the only one here who knows that you can easily gib people who have already been zapped and that it’s now easier than it has been in the past. If you weren’t such a snide little b1tch you would already have conceded this fact instead of heaping on the condescension.

[Sinee]

[quote=“avidCow;106109”][quote=“Mercy;106103”][quote=“avidCow;106064”][/quote]lmao. What. Your tinfoil hat seems a bit snug. It’s not old footage and is perfectly sync’d. We went into Execution so he can demonstrate his point in this thread, and he posted it. If you pay attention and use your eyeballs that are inside your skull, and incidentally, the brain that’s behind them, you can clearly see that this is a textured Execution map (market) which is post-CW patch where these changes were implemented.

There could be variables such as lag, but this happens all the time with defibs or whatever.[/quote]

Snarksnarksnark

Like I said, if this keeps happening, it’s not intentional and there may be another issue. I’m not the only one here who knows that you can easily gib people who have already been zapped and that it’s now easier than it has been in the past. If you weren’t such a snide little b1tch you would already have conceded this fact instead of heaping on the condescension.[/quote]
You came into the thread being snarky and condescending, so you reap what you sow. But I’ll refrain from returning the favor of personal insults, even though it’s tempting.

[Merci1ess]

[quote=“avidCow;106109”][quote=“Mercy;106103”][quote=“avidCow;106064”][/quote]lmao. What. Your tinfoil hat seems a bit snug. It’s not old footage and is perfectly sync’d. We went into Execution so he can demonstrate his point in this thread, and he posted it. If you pay attention and use your eyeballs that are inside your skull, and incidentally, the brain that’s behind them, you can clearly see that this is a textured Execution map (market) which is post-CW patch where these changes were implemented.

There could be variables such as lag, but this happens all the time with defibs or whatever.[/quote]

Snarksnarksnark

Like I said, if this keeps happening, it’s not intentional and there may be another issue. I’m not the only one here who knows that you can easily gib people who have already been zapped and that it’s now easier than it has been in the past. If you weren’t such a snide little b1tch you would already have conceded this fact instead of heaping on the condescension.[/quote]

It’s easy to gib if there’s no medics around, of course. When medics are part of the situation, then things tend to be different. As shown in the video. Obviously, by the looks of things, you will not give me any information on your time played as a sniper so I’m gonna go ahead and assume that you’ve been talking out of your ass this whole time. If you would be playing a sniper, especially lately with the newest patch, this would have most likely happened to you.

[joemusashi12]

@Mercy Why in the world do you hate being revived?

[Merci1ess]

@Mercy Why in the world do you hate being revived?

She means when medics just tap revive you so they can just get the revive exp and leave you with the minimum amount of HP. Basically hoping you die again so they can tap revive you again and again and again… etc.

[joemusashi12]

@Merciless Well, sometimes medics HAVE to tap-revive because you’re under enemy fire and you have to get that revive quickly.

[watsyurdeal]

Played Vassili last night, honestly I feel like a RoF buff would be fine, but the gibbing on headshot, or lack thereof, really isn’t that bad. It actually makes dealing with Snipers a LOT more reasonable.

[3N1GM4]

Lets just keep glossing over my 8 questions lol

[Amerika]

[quote=“3N1GM4;107380”]Lets just keep glossing over my 8 questions lol
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Because they read like rhetorical questions that do not need to be answered.

[Sir_Slam]

This was done because the top 1% of players were breaking the sh*t out of him.

You know what happens when you balance around the 99%? League. League happens.