LulzSec set sights on Brink?

(SockDog) #121

This whole thing weirds me out to be honest. They seem to be all over the place with their targets and have little concern for anonymity. The “Anti-Anonymous”.

Still their list of breaches is impressive, I’d be stunned if some of the people don’t just disappear off the radar and into a nice “government” job. That is of course assuming this isn’t a government operation in the first place.

BTW to all those being angry, in many ways you should be at least equally disgusted by the companies that so poorly secure your data. I read elsewhere that, ironically, Facebook of all people were congratulated by LulzSec for having solid security.

As for Brink. It seems likely that their website/forum was hacked although I’d be curious to see if there was some juicy internal emails to be had if for nothing else than to see how things work behind the scenes. Clearly to name Brink in such an attack means their members were anticipating this game quite a bit. If I was Gearbox I’d be switching off my servers right about now. :slight_smile:

(Nexusdog) #122

Balance - NHS

“While you aren’t considered an enemy - your work is of course brilliant - we did stumble upon several of your admin passwords,” the e-mail read.

It lists the stolen information - but blacks out the names in the tweet.

“We mean you no harm and only want to help you fix your tech issues,” the mail continued.

They could have done significant damage.

Just saying, nothing more.

(Nexusdog) #123

+1 mate. Well put.

(Lydia) #124

So what , they get my mail adress and the password for this forum :smiley: Ohnoes , they can troll via my account :stuck_out_tongue: Nothing more :wink: I don´t use any social platforms and i normally use a new pw for every registration :slight_smile:

But really . Maybe annonymus will stop them someday . If so , i BET at least one of them will commit suicide . Cause without any RL you are a very very poor individual .

(zenstar) #125

That argument is not quite true. I agree that in reality those companies should be keeping up high standards of security but part of the cost of products is having to keep up this massive standard of security and that gets passed down to the end consumer.

If this were real world security you’d be saying that we should be angry with the banks because they didn’t have enough security to prevent the criminals robbing them. (yes yes… there’s a distinction between copying and stealing and between stealing the banks money and your identity but the core concept is similar). Beefing up their security is a cost that gets passed onto the customer.

If people didn’t rob banks to start with then maybe they could relax their security a bit. It’s always a small group of asses that ruin everything for the majority. (And I grew up in South Africa. Trust me I know what crime and beefed up security is about.)

But generally, yes. what you say is true.

(Nexusdog) #126

Interesting counter point

Who is less worthy - a company with high integrity but low security or one with high security but no integrity?

(Slade05) #127

You know what Lydia, if they start trolling from your account it will only gain in value.

(Lydia) #128

But if i want it to gain value , I wnana be trollololin´ :smiley:

(mortis) #129

[QUOTE=zenstar;338206]http://www.splashdamage.com/content/hack-attempts-against-bethesdas-websites

Really? Was that it? And what the hell do they want with a bunch of usernames and passwords to a forum?
I mean sure: some people use the same password across their email etc etc and this will let them gain acess to blah blah… but seriously? Was that it?[/QUOTE]

Bah. These hackers-without-a-cause evidently think that punishing innocent bystanders to get their jollies is a noble calling. I’m ripping off your credit card information in order to protect you! Right. e-thugs are just like any other thug, basically. I’m totally certain that they could bring Bethesda to its knees, but what good would that do? None that I can see…

(SockDog) #130

@Zenstar Fair point, yet some of these “banks” put the money in stacks behind the counter rather than in a safe. There is a reasonable level of expectation there for my money or data to be secured from some drunk with a cucumber in a carrier bag, if Ocean’s Eleven rob the bank then I’ll give you a pass. :slight_smile:

As for the cost of better security, in a virtual sense does it really cost substantially more to ensure you’re encrypting passwords and minimising exposed data or is it just a matter of making the effort? Also, isn’t that cost really implied when running a website or service? Would you open a bank and not buy a safe until you were robbed?

The sad thing is this seems borne more of ignorance than any sort of penny pinching as they’re frequently seen to also shoot themselves in the face. Again, LulzSec might not directly be doing us a favour but they’re certainly making these people take notice of how poor a job they’re doing.

(Krallis) #131

Yeah but if we get ****ed over because of it, then that’s hardly helpful is it.
It degrades any perception of decency the group has.

(Petrolbomb_Tom) #132

We were going to keep this little treasure chest to ourselves, but it appears the hand has been bitten. Say your prayers, Brink users. >:]

I wonder what they are talking about…

‘We were going to keep this little treasure chest to ourselves’ - Could this be internal E-mails regarding Brink written by either Beth or SD?

‘but it appears the hand has been bitten’ Could this be the saying - biting the hand that feeds you - IE…SD bad mouthing Bethesda (the people what pay SD wages) and Bethesda knowing about it?

‘Say your prayers, Brink users. >:]’ Might not be an attack on the game but maybe they know something about the future of the game that either we or even possibly even SD don’t know about?

(SockDog) #133

I’m not saying the group has any level of decency. I’m saying that the companies that take your data should do more to make sure these “undesirable” people are kept away from it and that LulzSec are showing they’re absolutely crap at it.

If they’re not capable or unwilling to secure your data then they shouldn’t ask for it. Isn’t Sony being sued under the data protection act for exactly this reason?

(Lookinglass) #134

Update!

(johnblaze00) #135

The ultra-busy LulzSec hacking group claims it now has the personal data of over 200,000 users of the game Brink. “Bethesda, we broke into your site over two months ago. We’ve had all of your Brink users for weeks,” the group wrote on Twitter. “Please fix your junk, thanks!”

The big news may be that over 200,000 people played Brink.

“We’re going to release lots of Bethesda/ZeniMax data today—however we might not release their 200,000+ users as we love Call of Cthulhu,” another Twitter message from the group stated. Then the group began the threats. “Bethesda, give everyone more info on Skyrim and we’ll keep the user database to ourselves. However we are going to embarrass you anyway,” the group wrote. They then asked for a LulzSec top hat to be added to Skyrim.

The group has been busy of late, targeting Sony, PBS, and Nintendo. As in the case of the Nintendo hack, the group seems to have targeted a company it has at least some respect for, making the threats seem all the more surreal. Luckily, unless Bethesda has access to Steam records for some reason, it’s unlikely there is much information to be plundered from these records. That said, it’s a good reminder of the dangers of using same password in multiple places.

the bolded part made me lol

(Singh400) #136

Phew, good thing I didn’t have a stats site account.

(Nexusdog) #137

Update

Reading now

(MoonOnAStick) #138

Can anyone from Splash Damage confirm that Bethesda had no Steam records on these servers?

(Saint Stunna) #139

All i can say is :frowning:

(johnblaze00) #140

that is what i would like to hear