Is Nexon actually banning anyone right now?

(Cletus_VanDamme) #81

[quote=“Jostabeere;209889”][quote=“KUST__LunarTM;209820”]Expecting anti cheat to stop every single hack is like expecting the police to stop every single crime before it happens.

cough cough Winter Soldier cough cough[/quote]

I am playing a different online shooter that had multiple free and vip hacks. The devs bought BattleEye, and in one day the anticheat broke the neck of all hack for this game. Now it’s hack-free.
Just some random trivia. But such cases actually exist.[/quote]

You’re joking right?

(Herr_Hanz) #82

yesterday i met my first one in 2 months.

(K1X455) #83

@Herr_Hanz what region/server were you on?

(Herr_Hanz) #84

[quote=“K1X455;209996”]@Herr_Hanz what region/server were you on?
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EU, obj 7v7 or min10. guy entered with sporks on terminal and headshot everybody, next match chapel he didnt hack and switched to stoker, only got get 3k points in 10 minutes XD. after that he went sporks again and started hacking again. we kept having 4/5 votes to kick him -_- i have met 6 hackers in my year of playing now.

(Amerika) #85

Yes, and how come players can pick them up much faster than NGS can?
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I have explained this so many times I refuse to do it again. If you don’t understand how anti-cheat systems work please use the search function of this forum or Google in general. You can mash that disagree on Ardez’s post all you want but that doesn’t change the fact that he is right. And you’d know this if you did any research outside of just getting angry. You’ve been here long enough you should have caught one or two of the posts regarding this.

@poit187 You would know that Nexon/SD aren’t “protecting the feelings” of cheaters if you had read any previous posts on the subject or simply thought about it. You being outraged at the policy is because you are making up what you want to believe because you’re angry as opposed to being rational and either thinking about it, researching it or simply asking about why it’s done. Please do not make up information. It’s one of the few things on this forum I don’t personally tolerate. I like facts and discussions. Not outraged zealots making up “facts” as they go to fit their personal narrative.

(poit187) #86

Yes, and how come players can pick them up much faster than NGS can?
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I have explained this so many times I refuse to do it again. If you don’t understand how anti-cheat systems work please use the search function of this forum or Google in general. You can mash that disagree on Ardez’s post all you want but that doesn’t change the fact that he is right. And you’d know this if you did any research outside of just getting angry. You’ve been here long enough you should have caught one or two of the posts regarding this.

@poit187 You would know that Nexon/SD aren’t “protecting the feelings” of cheaters if you had read any previous posts on the subject or simply thought about it. You being outraged at the policy is because you are making up what you want to believe because you’re angry as opposed to being rational and either thinking about it, researching it or simply asking about why it’s done. Please do not make up information. It’s one of the few things on this forum I don’t personally tolerate. I like facts and discussions. Not outraged zealots making up “facts” as they go to fit their personal narrative.[/quote]

“You being outraged at the policy is because you are making up what you want to believe because you’re angry as opposed to being rational” REALLY? a video recording of the player is not fact based is it? its just me been angry… oh wait, its EXACTLY what the player did - verbatim.

“I like facts” both times I have had a warning on this forum was with PURE facts - video recordings of the player in question.

Fine, at the risk of getting a third strike; here, tell me what part of these videos is NOT fact based?

(GatoCommodore) #87

Why does banning someone not considered as a free advertising with releasing post ban lists?

i mean

Free Popularity + Advertising = Mo’ Money

nexon could hire high repurtation dirty bomb community member for free to tag hackers.

Who doesnt want their game to be cheaters free?

and @Amerika please enlighten me about why the forum rules stated that we shouldnt do witch hunting?
i dont really know about the history behind it.

(The_N00Ba) #88

Unfortunately I don’t think any game will be completely cheater free in the long run. That’s like saying we can completely remove viruses and bacteria from the planet as the planet is right now. I think there always will be at least one.

Honestly I don’t quite see how a video can be considered fact in this case. The video recordings are recordings of the visual representation of the Dirty Bomb code interacting from multiple electronic sources as viewed by the recorders point of view. The video is only one perspective. It does not contain all the vast amount of code going on behind the scenes. I think the code is important since that is the cheaters primary tool and is the best form of fact possible.

Sadly without access to the cheater’s computer nexon has to rely on other means of gathering data. I would also guess they need redundancy from multiple sources in order to help build a case as well.

Unfortunately, I think a lot of players are expecting swift action but forget the legal side of things which is sad to say not so fast. If things are not handled well, things could turn very bad legally. I can definitely understand the frustration though.

(doxjq) #89

This latest hacker is super annoying. Apparently he is some old school high level guy who got bored of the game earlier in the year and has came back to be a twat. I kind of believe him too because he remembers a lot of ancient things from previous events, old clans we were in, old school peoples names and who used to be around back in the day etc.

The problem is this guy admits he is hacking, and welcomes people to report him all they want, because he has multiple accounts on steam and just says “doesn’t bother me, I’ll just come back when I’m banned on a new account :D”

The worst part about it too is he seems to sit there server sniping the better players. I’m guessing he is unemployed, as he seems to be online all day every day, but as soon as a server gets two or three of the more well known guys joining, he joins up to ruin the day, and if you leave the server he sits on the server browser waiting for you to join a new server, and follows you into it.

He’s doing it every day, and he’s been around for weeks now, and still isn’t banned. I’m partially considering just playing in a different region for a while, because I can’t seem to join a server without this guy joining.

Trolling to the max, and there’s literally no way to stop him unless someone can magically stop his computer from being able to run Dirty Bomb.

Honestly I am out of ideas.

(doxjq) #90

About the only solution I can come up with is having a “regional manager” for every server region, who are online quite a bit and have the ability to ban people from the game. I understand the risk involved with people abusing the power, but if they were older & more mature people who were answering to Nexon & SD, I’m sure it could be implemented in a safe manner.

I honestly don’t see any other way around it, because Nexons report system has fallen through the floor. It used to be 1 day or a few max before some one was banned, but this 2-3 week if not longer thing has got to stop.

(ChaoticElf) #91

[quote=“sweetColumn;210030”]please enlighten me about why the forum rules stated that we shouldnt do witch hunting?
i dont really know about the history behind it.[/quote]

Someone can probably put this more eloquently than I can. From what I understand, that’s exactly what it could turn into: a witch hunt. Due to the steam platform, it’s incredibly easy to change your display name on a whim. The forum rules are more in place to protect other players, not the hacker. If a hacker wanted to tarnish the name of another player, all they have to do is change their name to the targeted player and hack it up. Will it always work? No, probably not, but not all of the player base is clever enough to track steam IDs or, I hate to say this, employ rational thinking. In either case a witch hunt could start and cause trouble where there shouldn’t be any. For some people, just a name is damning enough.

(Melinder) #92

@Dox “Regional Managers”, although likely the best option, is also the least likely. I’m sure myself and every other “known” player would not be against having yourself as a moderator, though getting dev approval is unlikely, and with good reason.

(doxjq) #93

@Cam I know it will never happen. It’s way too risky and too many people would abuse the power. My example was hypothetical.

(AlphaUT) #94

I do agree there are some real hacker, because I met them before. You know, like 1 second kill 3 people with pistol. But I have seen one for a while.

(awesomeBeetle) #95

Hey is that cheater’s name is ‘me’ ?

(poit187) #96

no… the cheater by the name “me” and “you” has actually been banned… either that or he just decided to stop playing since Sep 14th.

Don’t get me wrong, this isn’t to praise nexon/sd for banning him… I am still salty about that case as it took nearly 4 weeks to ban him!

(poit187) #97

Yes, and how come players can pick them up much faster than NGS can?
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I have explained this so many times I refuse to do it again. If you don’t understand how anti-cheat systems work please use the search function of this forum or Google in general. You can mash that disagree on Ardez’s post all you want but that doesn’t change the fact that he is right. And you’d know this if you did any research outside of just getting angry. You’ve been here long enough you should have caught one or two of the posts regarding this.

@poit187 You would know that Nexon/SD aren’t “protecting the feelings” of cheaters if you had read any previous posts on the subject or simply thought about it. You being outraged at the policy is because you are making up what you want to believe because you’re angry as opposed to being rational and either thinking about it, researching it or simply asking about why it’s done. Please do not make up information. It’s one of the few things on this forum I don’t personally tolerate. I like facts and discussions. Not outraged zealots making up “facts” as they go to fit their personal narrative.[/quote]

“@poit187 You would know that Nexon/SD aren’t “protecting the feelings” of cheaters”
PROVE IT! this hacker has now been banned,… so why delete this video then?
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If you remove the above video then you are only proving you DO protect the feelings of hackers.

(Ardez1) #98

Please follow all of the rules here on the forum! These processes exist for very good reasons. If you want a history lesson, I’m sorry to disappoint, but you won’t be getting one. What poit and others have previously suggested is something that has been tried in the past with others games and it has almost always ended badly. Naming and shaming is not tolerated on the forums and never will be.

Please report all suspicious player to Nexon Support or by using the in game reporting tool.

I will leave this thread open for now, as I believe poit was the only person going about this discussion is such a negative fashion. However if it crosses the line again I will be locking it.

(GatoCommodore) #99

@poit187 is a great community member.

May his contribution to the forum Lives On.

(BerylRdm) #100

Sorry if someone already suggested it, I didn’t read whole thread, but why can’t we be informed if the player we reported really was cheating? Just a short note, saying, for example:
Hello, beryl, thanks for your report! We looked into it and decided to ban XXX.