[quote=“triteTongs;57759”]I’ve never seen a ‘glitch jumper’ in a server ever. Besides the OP, has anyone else seen one?
Also, you can’t ban people for abusing bugs in a beta.
It’s a beta. You should be glad that someone FOUND that out so it can be patched.[/quote]
Doesn’t abuse imply that it’s wrong? IMO, if you find a bug, report it and don’t abuse it. It makes it less fun for people, at least, it would for me.
Yes, rules, to protect players… even against other players who seem to think that using exploits that give them unfair advantages is ok.
Btw. how are exploits unfair like cheats are? Everyone can use them, just like everyone can use stronger classes or stronger weapons or stronger loadouts. And as already stated, the more an exploit is used, the more attention it creates.
And every1 can use hacks. And the more hacks are used the more attention they create.
Lets all cheat then, so that they could be adressed faster. Ohh wait, there are limits what devs can do and in what timeframe.
I know my opinion is controversial, but as somebody who has seen people getting banned from games/servers multiple times because they used ‘exploits’ and either didnt even know they did or didnt know it was an exploit i really hate rulings like ‘if you dont play the game as intented, get banned scrub’.
Opinions are good, even wrong ones 8P. And thats why i think that game needs a clear ruleset, with temp progressive bans for minor offenses(ppl will make mistakes, intentionally or not. and they will use their head and be more cautious next time, if banned even once), instead of just ignoring them(never a good idea to hope that players would just get over glitching) or, as ive seen in couple of games, to actually call them “features”(if you cant or are unwilling to fix them, then just say so, instead of parading around with obvious bs).
[quote=“triteTongs;57759”]
Also, you can’t ban people for abusing bugs in a beta.
It’s a beta. You should be glad that someone FOUND that out so it can be patched.[/quote]
Purpose of the beta is fixing adding and tweaking, not giving every loser there is a free reign to do what he pleases by hiding behind “beta” sign.
[quote=“Mrlong2;57796”]I know I’ll get some flames for this, but, the point of games is to have fun, and for me, having fun involves playing the game whimsically, and just generally not the usual way.
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Point of games is fun. And point of online games is fun for EVERY1, not just some select “chosen ones”. Also, another point of online games is to give every players fairly equal footing to play that game.
Gives it an advantage? Yes, but is it a big one? no. Most of the time your an easy target.
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Alot of players claim to “report” other players who use it, but as far as I saw there is no such option.
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Its in the game, so use it while it lasts.> @NXA-Orellien said:
but there’s only so many hours in the day.
This bug has been around for over a month, I cant imagine it would take thát long to fix such a bug? Even tho there is alot of other stuff going on at HQ for you guys.
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Happens all the time actually, especially in soft-launch open betas.[/quote]
I guess I have a different stance on that. You shouldn’t be banning players who are finding exploits. Especially during a beta. Exploits happen naturally as the game adds more content and you can’t make perfect code. I’d much rather see an exploit explained so the code can be hotfixed. It’ll be fixed faster if the community knows about it than if if it’s hidden in a shroud of perm-ban secrecy.
https://youtu.be/cb3in4RHtPY?t=35
should he get banned for doing that? No. They hotfixed the game when it was brought to everyone’s attention.
It’s not like the player downloaded some sort of cheat. The player was using the same code everyone has. Again, that means developers could hotfix the code at any given time to break it (E.g. Bayblading). Perm banning would be pretty extremely oppressive behavior though and that’s why I’m against it.
Also, not sure why the OP didn’t add a “temporary ban” as an option as well. A temporary ban is something I might get behind for extremely disruptive exploits.
[quote=“triteTongs;58380”][quote=“frzn;57778”]
Happens all the time actually, especially in soft-launch open betas.[/quote]
I guess I have a different stance on that. You shouldn’t be banning players who are finding exploits.[/quote]
We’re talking about abusing exploits, not finding them.
if they get abused, thell get fixed. banning players for such a thing is likely not going to happen, it would be mopping with the water flowing (a dutch saying)
Today I came across this video: REMOVED
I asked the author if he would make a tutorial on some of these glitches and he said yes. So soon we should know all (if not more) of these glitches and hopefully DB-Devs will have to patch them.
in the video beginning you see there is the possibility of being party invincible, but youll have to walk trought the wall to be able to shoot.
probably something along those lines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl5BixtVMjY[/quote]
Are you sure thats a glitch or hack? I see a lot of flying hacks in FPS games. Any way if it gives a players an advantage then at least Ban from server or demote the player rank take away GP IDK.
its not anything like that, will push out a vid tomorrow on how to do it
But this twisted logic cheaters shouldnt be banned either, since most hacks simply exploit flaws of design or game engine.
But this twisted logic cheaters shouldnt be banned either, since most hacks simply exploit flaws of design or game engine.[/quote]
But they use external third-party scripts/programs/etc. that go into the files/directories/servers/etc. of the game and edit things around for your liking and advantage over other players. It’s not the same as a guy exploiting a little jump around to get to a high place.
But this twisted logic cheaters shouldnt be banned either, since most hacks simply exploit flaws of design or game engine.[/quote]
But they use external third-party scripts/programs/etc. that go into the files/directories/servers/etc. of the game and edit things around for your liking and advantage over other players. It’s not the same as a guy exploiting a little jump around to get to a high place.[/quote]
It’s not exactly the same thing but the punishment is usually about the same. Willingly using a known exploit to gain an advantage in a live match will get you suspended/banned in just about every single game I’ve ever played.
[quote=“RadicalMac;58818”]
But they use external third-party scripts/programs/etc. that go into the files/directories/servers/etc. of the game and edit things around for your liking and advantage over other players. It’s not the same as a guy exploiting a little jump around to get to a high place.[/quote]
The fact that they use different techniques is irrelevant, since they lead to similar results. And its all that matters.
And getting on top of the map is NOT a little jump.
Those areas are not textured for a reason, since player has no business there to begin with.
[quote=“Dirmagnos;58924”][quote=“RadicalMac;58818”]
But they use external third-party scripts/programs/etc. that go into the files/directories/servers/etc. of the game and edit things around for your liking and advantage over other players. It’s not the same as a guy exploiting a little jump around to get to a high place.[/quote]
The fact that they use different techniques is irrelevant, since they lead to similar results. And its all that matters.
And getting on top of the map is NOT a little jump.
Those areas are not textured for a reason, since player has no business there to begin with. [/quote]
Tbh with you, it realy is just a jump (or 10). But yes your right, players have nothing to do there.
Guys keep in mind that this is still open beta testing. There are bugs, and there being fixed.
Even tho some of these bugs have been published more then a month ago doesnt mean there not working on it. I dont know if they have a huge sphagetti code ^.-
At first I saw no problem with using bugs untill they where fixed, as I was used to doing so in CS:GO. But there are some major bugs that will ruin gameplay, of my findings all of wich used bug jumping to get up high on a roof or even ontop of the skybox. This made me relise that I had to stop using them, and so I did.
I hope I will get other players who use this bug for an comettetive advantage to stop using them for the greater good.