Is glitch jumping ok?

(Wavert) #1

So i found a glitch jumper in a server, when it was prompted that he was kicked an all out war in whether it was ok to glitch jump or not started. There was even mention to perma ban.
So i would like to hear the community’s opinion on this matter

(B_Montiel) #2

What do you mean by glitch jumping ?

(einstyle) #3

probably something along those lines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl5BixtVMjY

(The_Enema_Bandit) #4

Try shooting him in the head a lot, it drastically reduces the amount of glitch exploiting.

(avidCow) #5

crouch macro is a dick move. I’ve only seen it once though.

(Jostabeere) #6

Glitching is exploiting. And exploiting is cheating. And cheaters should get banned.

(Ardez1) #7

I look down on all exploits/bug abuse in general…

More importantly than asking other people, do YOU feel that it gives you an unfair advantage to exploit a bug/glitch where others do not?

(Edzer) #8

Rather than kicking/banning people doing it, they should just be fixing it. Unless they’d do it in competitive ofcourse, competitive exploiting deserves a ban.

(GregHouseMD) #9

I really don’t see the difference between cheating in pubs versus competitive.

(B_Montiel) #10

I just depends of the usage. When doing this on a full server that’s just a pointless d!ck move. If they find some usage of it by finding some advantageous oob spots and abuse of it, it’s worth a kick from the server.

Either way, I always feel this is abusive to give a ban on something that is permitted by the game. Even though I don’t think crouch macro is possible to do manually, there’s still a good quantity of exploits that can be achieved easily. With my mates we found quite a lot of those. We reported them here or on warchest as soon as we found them. Then we only use them just for fun between us when filling an empty server. In my opinion, there’s nothing to whine about in this case. As long as you have an ounce of ethic and don’t use those things against somebody who is unaware or in regular plays. Those glitches are worth a disqualification in tourneys anyway.

(Gi.Am) #11

Exploit is exploit if it is done to gain a game advantage, especially in comp play it is bad sportmanship and should get you banned. And obviously SD has to fix it asap. If it is just for the giggles on a casual along the lines of hey guys check this out, I’d say check it out have a laugh altogether and get back to the game. Tell SD about it afterwards so they know about it and fix it.

With that aside the vid is great, SD needs to fix the lower part of the skybox, add in parashutes and make it an official feature (man I miss spawning into maps via parachutes).

(Dirmagnos) #12

Its exploiting an issues in game design that generally give player an advantage, not to mention playing game in the way it was not intended.
But due to the fact that sometimes many of exploits can be done accidentally:
first occureence - short temp ban, second - long temp ban, third - perma ban; all perpetrations are commulative across all instances from same category.

(Knives) #13

Misunderstood the question and voted wrong. Well now I feel like an idiot.
I thought of it as just being able to use clever jumps to get places.

(yusayu) #14

My general opinion on this matter is: If it is in the game it is allowed to be used.
So it is the Devs job to fix those things and players using them should not be banned.
Btw: More players using bugs = more attention = faster fix

(Jostabeere) #15

[quote=“random;57641”]My general opinion on this matter is: If it is in the game it is allowed to be used.
So it is the Devs job to fix those things and players using them should not be banned.
Btw: More players using bugs = more attention = faster fix[/quote]
If there are wallhacks and aimbots for the game, they’re allowed to be used?

(Backuplight) #16

[quote=“random;57641”]My general opinion on this matter is: If it is in the game it is allowed to be used.
So it is the Devs job to fix those things and players using them should not be banned.
Btw: More players using bugs = more attention = faster fix[/quote]

I hate this logic in every game I play. You’re right in that yes, it is the developer’s job to fix glitches and bugs, especially when they’re abusable. The fact they’re there doesn’t make it “okay” for people to use, though - many games affirm this with the ensuing ban wave for people that couldn’t help themselves.

(modifiedreal) #17

I definitely agree with Backuplight. Just because a glitch hasn’t been fixed yet doesn’t mean it should be abused.

(yusayu) #18

If there are wallhacks and aimbots for the game, they’re allowed to be used?

If you dont need external programs, yes. Isnt the motion spotter kind of a wallhack?

The fact they’re there doesn’t make it “okay” for people to use, though - many games affirm this with the ensuing ban wave for people that couldn’t help themselves.

Why not and how is this fair for the players? How are they supposed to know whats meant to be in the game and what isnt?
And if unintentionally a class happens to be overpowered due to another class getting nerfed or something should players playing that class be banned aswell?

(god1) #19

The glitch jumping itself is just a waste of time, the issue here is poorly made maps that are not walled properly. You can even use sticky bombs to jump out of bounds.

(Wavert) #20

[left][quote=“Ardez;57601”]I look down on all exploits/bug abuse in general…

More importantly than asking other people, do YOU feel that it gives you an unfair advantage to exploit a bug/glitch where others do not?[/quote]

I do think it gives unfair advantage that’s why i believe they should get kicked.
But in the server there were people that thought it was ok, others blamed the Devs, others defended the ban and there were even people that started doing it. That’s why I wanted to know the community’s opinion.

One of the ones i saw was in bridge that a rhino came guns blazing through the walkway window. If you ask me that is a serious advantage[/left]