How come so many RTCW players didn't like ET?

(Jin) #21

Why ???
Very simple

http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~rsharma/Enemy_Territory/XP.html#rewards

Light weapons
Level 2: Faster Reload
Now you can reload weapons 35% faster
Level 3: Improved Light Weapons Handling
Your accuracy with SMG’s

Battle sense
Level 2: Improved Physical Fitness
Stamina bar recharges 60% faster

Heavy Weapons
Level 1: Improved projectile resources
Each time you fire a panzer or mortar, it costs 33% less from your power bar
Level 2: Heavy weapons proficiency
MGs take half the usual time to cool after they overheat
Level 3: Improved Dexterity
You can run around faster with Panzer or Flamethrower

First aid
Level 4: Self adrenaline (VERY COOL)
For 10 seconds, damage against you is cut in half, and you can sprint without losing stamina

Engineering
Level 2: Improved dexterity
Lets you arm or defuse landmines/dynamite in half the time
Level 3: Improved construction/destruction
Constructing, repairing, and arming dyno or landmines takes 33% less power bar

Signals
Level 2: Improved signals
Calling arty costs only 2/3 of your power bar (instead of 100%)
Level 3: Improved Air and Ground support
Airstrikes affect more area, and arty strike lasts twice as long. VERY useful.

Covert Operations
Level 3: Breath control
Your weapon recoils 50% less after each shot

(Kendle) #22

But the whole XP issue doesn’t really apply in Clan wars, especially not in Euro-land where we play with severe XP tweaks. No Level4 for anything, no Level3 for Field-Ops, no Levels at all for Soldiers. Also, the Level3 Light Weapons is actually Level4, that list is incorrect, and no-one gets it in Clan wars.

It’s only pubs which are “noob” spam-fests. Clan wars are less spammy than RTCW even, with b_stickycharge 2 and g_heavyweaponsrestriction 20 making it a more tactical game where aim and teamwork is even more important.

(Oxygen - o2) #23

i like RTCW more because it looks better, maps have bettter gameplay, and the one main reason, RTCW was given alot of patches showing that the people who made RTCW gave a crap about there game, in ET its ETpro doing most the bug fixes

RTCW maps were smaller, thats good cos u get a better FPS and the game can be deemed playable

BTW this has turned very quickly into an ET vs RTCW topic, ffs use google there are like 5* of these on this forum alone

*just a guess, could be wrong

(CM..Punk) #24

like RTCW more because it looks better, maps have bettter gameplay, and the one main reason, RTCW was given alot of patches showing that the people who made RTCW gave a crap about there game, in ET its ETpro doing most the bug fixes

I dont’ remember if it was you or not who started that thread saying SD don’t give a crap about the game… but regardless, learn what ‘business’ is. People don’t work on games because they feel like it and they want to be nice to us, they do it because it’s their job and they’re trying to earn a living. Patches are released for RtCW because the gamers PAID for their copy and were entitled to them. You didn’t PAY for ET, nobody is going to get paid for making a patch, so no patch. It doesn’t mean SD don’t give a crap about the game, that’s a stupid argument.

(Mapper X) #25

I say ‘ET is much better then Rtcw’

:banana: Better and More Maps :banana:

(Oxygen - o2) #26

u got a point, but they do wana be nice to us, i surpose, why is ET free?

(Cerebrate) #27

So you figured that was the reason? To be nice?

(rtcwveteran) #28

why rtcw players dont like et is obvious i think.many convartiations and flames have take place about rtcw and et
just check the most recent
http://www.swertcw.com/default.php?c=news&p=comments&id=3429
http://www.xfire.be/comments.php?id=1186&category=7
imo the games difference is that the et is a game that was made to make a variety of players happy.thats why its more noob friendly and more lamest game that rtcw( rifle grenades for eg…what a lame weapon…you can kill 3 players no mattter the distance :/)
I dont now any original rtcw player that thinks that et is better than rtcw cause with all teh new stuff like huge maps, rifles , mortals, mines , lower rate of fire teh game is slower and fun based not skilled based and with all the respect to et players but if they dont have played competitive rtcw for at least 3-4 months they must not have an opinion on this.Why so many ppl + rtcw players play et? simpe to have fun for some time and because is teh most close game to rtcw and its free ofc!
There are rumours out there about rtcw2…if splash damage had take the project as the rumous say i wish good luck to the programmers they will need it :slight_smile: and plz plz we dont want a new et game we need a fast franctic action game :)…a game with all the good stuff from rtcw + new netcode + new idies that will make the game even more fast and skill based game…a brand new rtcw :slight_smile:

(Oxygen - o2) #29

well why else, its a free game, they not making money

(BlackDeath) #30

They released what they had because they had already paid them to complete the MP, and the SP fell through

(Vaibhav) #31

I hope RTCW 2 will be free… :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

(Cerebrate) #32

Are you lame or something? Of course they are. Enemy Territory is one of the most popular online games, SD made a name for themselves and got a nice deal on the new Doom 3 MP game.

(Oxygen - o2) #33

ok

dont have to be nasty about it

(Cerebrate) #34

Sorry. Have a beer. :beer:

(Mr_Tickles) #35

He’s 12

(Cerebrate) #36

Sorry. Have a banana instead. :banana:

:blah:

(Kendle) #37

I played RTCW competitively for 18 months before switching to ET, and I think ET is the better game. Does that make me odd? :wink:

To answer the original question:- I don’t know!!

The games are soooo similiar I can’t understand how anyone can say they like one of them but not the other.

ET in competition, with ETPro and Clanbase XP tweaks is a tactical, skillful game to rival RTCW easily. Teamwork and tactics are even more important in ET than they are in RTCW. And with less spam and the reduced ROF it means aim is even more important in ET than it is in RTCW. In RTCW, with it’s higher ROF, you could compensate for lack of aim using spray-and-pray and wall-leaning. The contention that RTCW requires better aim is a myth perpetuated by the ET haters, but for the life of me I’ve never understood why.

I love both games, as they’re 90% the same, certainly when played competively (and I’ve played them both competitively for some time). So why RTCW players don’t like ET is beyond me. I’m a RTCW veteran who loves ET.

(Elements) #38

I don’t really know. I love ET I don’t see how someone can’t love it.

(Kendle) #39

Thinking about it, the way I look at it is this:-

ETPro > RTCW > ETMain / Shrub

Which can lead to a lot of confusion.

If you’re a hardcore RTCW player and you jump on an etmain or shrub ET server, you’re not gonna be impressed. It’ll be spammy, there will be too many people playing the wrong Class (i.e. too many Coverts / Noob-sticks, etc.) and it will generally feel like a dumbed down RTCW. It’s at this point that a lot of RTCW players write it off and thereafter consider ET to be soley for “noobs”.

However, play a Clan war with ETPro, b_stickycharge 2, g_heavyweaponsretriction 20, XP tweaks, etc., and you’ll find it a more instense, tactical, skillful game than even RTCW was in it’s heyday.

That’s the enigma that is ET! :wink:

(fattakin) #40

I think its time people stopped yapping about the FPS in ET - its time to buy a new computer hombres, ET is the last of a dying engine and from here on in its HL2 / D3 engine ahoy so pull your finger out and upgrade your PC’s…