HL2 Source code Leak

(Loffy) #61

Ok.
It just sounded so wierd: Leaving the goodies out there, to grab.
Or perhaps I am wrong again? The goodies wheren’t just “out there” - they where well protected - the persons that stole them (I see this as theft, not innocent hacking.) had to performe a virtual rififi raid?
Or whatever. Im just idleing.
// L.

(Grimmy_EFG) #62

From Gabes post at Halflife2.net

At some point, keystroke recorders got installed on several machines at Valve. Our speculation is that these were done via a buffer overflow in Outlook’s preview pane. This recorder is apparently a customized version of RemoteAnywhere created to infect Valve (at least it hasn’t been seen anywhere else, and isn’t detected by normal virus scanning tools).

(rgoer) #63

No! A buffer overflow? In a Microsoft product? Surefly not! Never!

…oh, wait. When I said: “never,” I meant: “every fucking week.”

(Grimmy_EFG) #64

[quote=“Sauron|EFG”]

Wow, that’s a lot! It peaked at approximately 30 scans (30 unique IPs) per hour on my connection, but I think it’s down to 10-15 now.[/quote]

We had 200+ per minute at peak to our work IP’s… I haven’t checked the logs recently.

(Ao1SYS) #65

Well, according to Gamer’s Hell, Halflife 2 has been officially delayed until April. Pretty much what I expected them to do. Hope they use the extra time well…

Story here.

(Grimmy_EFG) #66

Also on MVC:

http://www.mcvuk.com/html/news/story.jsp?newsId=1111416

(UK Computer Game marketing magazine)

(damocles) #67

Ah that’s a load of horse shite. Does it not seem at all suspiscious that not only are reuters and MVC both quoting “les echos”, but les echos itself says that they were contacted by Chris Ramboz - CO of operations outside of America. Does it not seem at all suspiscious to anyone that the only contact from VU on the matter was to les echos from the guy not responsible for American publishing?

A few sites were duped when Valve officially announced the slip from 30th September. Someone sent an email claiming to be from Gabe Newell saying the slip was rubbish and it would ship on the 30th. Several sites posted this as fact only to later realise what idiots they were for not examining the email more closely.

I say this April slip is bollocks. What do they hope to do about the source leak? Rewrite all internet relevant code in the hope they can stop hacks before the game is released? Madness and not really very common practice. Most games companies will fix hacks after they are created, because how else do you know what is being hacked?

(rgoer) #68

I’m starting to believe that April has been the established plan for some time. They knew that 30 September was completely beyond the realm of possibility (frankly, I’m not sure why they even bothered to make such a claim). Since 30 September came and went, they had been simply letting the delay be the “it comes out when it comes out” kind. Now, the incident of this code theft gives them a face-saving public out (“the delay is understandable, I mean, they got hacked after all” says Joe Luser), and they can announce to the world that yes, HL2 will be coming out in April. It’s because of the code theft, see? Not because our product wasn’t ready. The code theft. Really set us back. Yeah.

(rgoer) #69

Um, hello? Vivendi Universal is a French Company. Vivendi Universal owns Half Life 2. Vivendi Universal made the official “decision” to delay. Vivendi Universal, being located in France, will give their first sound byte to a French Paper. This is not at all the suspicious part.

Like I just posted a minute ago: the suspicious thing is that their product wasn’t going to be ready anyway, and now they’re coming out and saying “oh damn, we got hacked… guess we’ll have to delay half life’s release.”

(funkPig) #70

if they had kept their code development machines off the public internet, it wouldnt have happened – period. having such high stakes systems accessable through the internet was just a bad decision.

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Quite correct bani but I think my quote is out of context. I was refering to the “M$ Vs. Mac Vs. All the rest” not just the HL2 break out. ALL systems are “hackable”. But if there is no physical connection to the “outside” then, right, the “hackers” would have had to resort to old school industrial espionage like tom cruise in Mission Impossible!

(damocles) #71

Um, hello? Vivendi Universal is a French Company. Vivendi Universal owns Half Life 2. Vivendi Universal made the official “decision” to delay. Vivendi Universal, being located in France, will give their first sound byte to a French Paper. This is not at all the suspicious part.

Yes they are, but do you tihkn Valve deal with the French branch? No, they deal with the American branch, because America is their prime market place. Why would VUGames give the release to only the French media? Why are there not release in all the mainstream media?

(rgoer) #72

Dude, you missed the point: Valve didn’t make the announcement, Vivendi did. Vivendi is going to give the report to whomever it is most convenient for them to do so. Vivendi is in France, so it isn’t surprising that it was most convenient for them to give the release to a French daily. Valve had nothing to do with this press release.

(Lanz) #73

God what I hate these experts on rumours that knows fuck all about anything behind valves doors. Sorry, it’s really nothing personal but I’ve seen it so much lately it’s starting to piss me off.

(Sick Boy) #74

not based on anything, but I expect half-life 2 to come out when duke nukem forever does :drink:

(chavo_one) #75

Relax. The experts behind valve’s doors don’t even know what’s going on behind valve’s doors. You should blame valve for your current level of agitation, not the rumor mongrels. Without all of the vague announcements and revelations coming from vivendi and valve, the rumors would have no basis for existence.

(Machine for to kill) #76

I for one see a plus side to this.

This means that I’ll have…1,2,3…4…well many months more to work on maps for ET. Activision must kicking themselves in the teeth for not going through with a retail version for ET (of course I don’t know why they dropped the project in the first place so I’m completely talking out of my ass). Of course it having worked out the way it did, it is exellent for us gamers.

(damocles) #77

Dude, you missed the point: Valve didn’t make the announcement, Vivendi did. Vivendi is going to give the report to whomever it is most convenient for them to do so. Vivendi is in France, so it isn’t surprising that it was most convenient for them to give the release to a French daily. Valve had nothing to do with this press release.

So you think that Valve told the US branch of VUGames, and then VUG decided to tell VU France so that they could release only to a French newspaper? It doesn’t strike you as even slightly bizarre that VU didn’t make the release to one of the many games industry news sources? Les Echo is hardly the one-stop shop for gaming news. It would have been beleivable if the news story was about the hacking and the vulnerabilities of computers linked to the net, but it was a story about HL2’s release date - not something that normally gets much coverage in the dailies. Convenience is not what matters when you’re dealing with a multi-million dollar product. Getting the right information to the right people is what matters. Or do you perhaps think VU made the decision to put back to April without even discussing the code situation with Valve? I still call hoax.

(chavo_one) #78

I don’t think it’s a hoax myself. Just found this on yahoo news. It has a few more official quotes.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1509&e=7&u=/afp/france_computer_software

(system) #79

ANON relased BETA version… 1,5 GB, downloading now…

(Wraith2k3) #80

sin, you’re an asshole plain and simple. And I dont care if saying that gets me banned or not.