Give SD a break!

(H0RSE) #41

I don’t blame SD for any of problems with Brink - I blame the business. If SD was an indie company, funding their own project(s), they wouldn’t have to deal with time constraints and release windows and wouldn’t need to compromise or get the “ok” to add/modify content. - they would simply take as long as needed until everything was done. Sadly, that was not the case with Brink. They had to deal with a publisher and the business side of gaming. Not to mention that they were understaffed throughout the development of the game.

SD did what they could with what they had. Whether or not they did their best or the right things is up for debate, but I give them kudos for accomplishing what they did, under the circumstances.

(gooey79) #42

I’m always torn on topics like these.

Firstly, I do believe SD are staffed by great people who genuinely want to give their best. Taking aside the guys at Valve, I’d place SD as my second favourite developer across all platforms. I buy into who they are as an entity.

When it comes to this game though, part of me believes forces like industry pressure affected what could be delivered and when. But the other part of me says I’m paying for this product with my hard earned money. As a customer, none of the internal stuff matters to me. Only the quality of the product I receive at the end.

So yeah, they’ve been getting a hard time and I don’t feel it’s undeserved; you’ve got to stand by the product you put out. That said, I hope to see them around for many years to come. I’m very much a ‘once bitten, twice shy’ consumer so I won’t be ‘day one’ but I do hope there’s something there that makes me a ‘one day’ customer instead of ‘never’.

(wolfnemesis75) #43

I researched the hell out of the game before I put my preorder down on it and was even ready for the store clerk to tell me that he didn’t think much of the game, and I was fine with that. And here is why: I’ll be the skinny fast dude with all the cool looking crap and I’ll just climb somewhere and shoot the fat guys who can’t and then heal all my mates! And this game is gonna be hilarious. The guy who didn’t realize the writing on the wall with the game just blows my mind. Somehow the hype train grabbed a bunch of dudes who found out about the game two days before it was gonna drop and had them thinking they’d never need to buy another FPS game ever based on the Trailer! How would you backflip in a FPS? ha ha ha!

And I was warned by fellow posters on youtube and other sites that we’d have to wait a couple of weeks before the COD players would get fed up and leave! Ha ha! Brink STILL plays as it did in all the videos I watched on youtube and the dev making of with the exception of a couple cut scenes. I had played other games like Unreal Tournament for fun against bots that had no traditional story.

I had no idea that soooo many people would be looking for the game to be soooo serious when there’s dudes with clown facepaint, tires for shoulder pads, crazy multi-cultural elements, ridiculous tattoos, players that can disguise as other players, potato sack heads, etc. I’d play Brink, make some friends and fool around. But nooooo! Mass hysteria! :smiley:

Edit: Fixed it. Useless quote. I was just making my post look like a comic book I guess.

(gooey79) #44

Not sure you’re referring to me in your post but since you’re quoting me, I’ll assume you are so that I can clarify you’re dead wrong on your opinion.

If you’re not referring to me, please do correct me if I’m wrong.

:slight_smile:

(nephandys) #45

[QUOTE=Dragnerok X;374199]You people’s negativity parade / general bashing of my posts have suceeded in turning me off of Brink. Congratulations.

:stuck_out_tongue:

Edit: In all fairness, this forum has for the most part done nothing but get me angry and frustrated, so I suppose it’s best that I bid you all farewell.[/QUOTE]
In all fairness man we discussed a lot of these issues to death before you even joined the forum (I know I haven’t been here that long). Even the most rabid Brink fan at this point has come to admit that there’s flaws in the game. Body type imbalance and weapon spread seem to be the biggest issues cross platform, while PC has some more specific issues that relate directly to them. Just because we’re willing to point out and accept these flaws doesn’t mean we hate Brink or are being “negative.” These points are generally being discussed for positive reasons - we want to provide input to assist with tweaks being made to the game, to generally provide feedback to the devs, and to discuss this game/gaming because that’s what we’re into. That’s most of what I see going on outside of a minority of posts espousing what a crap game this is and/or how someone is quitting.

I play Brink pretty much every day and love the game for what it is, but just like most other things out there it has flaws too.

(wolfnemesis75) #46

[QUOTE=*goo;374227]Not sure you’re referring to me in your post but since you’re quoting me, I’ll assume you are so that I can clarify you’re dead wrong on your opinion.

If you’re not referring to me, please do correct me if I’m wrong.

:)[/QUOTE]I wasn’t really posting about you directly. I my brain is like scrambled eggs sometimes, obviously. I played waaay too late last night and drank waaay too much booze. Not sure what I was thinking. :slight_smile:

(Dragnerok X) #47

[QUOTE=nephandys;374229]In all fairness man we discussed a lot of these issues to death before you even joined the forum (I know I haven’t been here that long). Even the most rabid Brink fan at this point has come to admit that there’s flaws in the game. Body type imbalance and weapon spread seem to be the biggest issues cross platform, while PC has some more specific issues that relate directly to them. Just because we’re willing to point out and accept these flaws doesn’t mean we hate Brink or are being “negative.” These points are generally being discussed for positive reasons - we want to provide input to assist with tweaks being made to the game, to generally provide feedback to the devs, and to discuss this game/gaming because that’s what we’re into. That’s most of what I see going on outside of a minority of posts espousing what a crap game this is and/or how someone is quitting.

I play Brink pretty much every day and love the game for what it is, but just like most other things out there it has flaws too.[/QUOTE]

I’m not denying that Brink has flaws, I just don’t think it’s unplayable either as some would like you to believe, and to tell you the truth, kind of fun, else why would anyone be playing it?

Also, I retract my earlier statement about quitting Brink, and I’m sorry if I took any comments the wrong way. I just think that it would have been better if the whole “leave Britney alone” and calling me a hypocrite thing weren’t brought up.

(Verticae) #48

From a competitive viewpoint, the game’s unplayable though. It’s meant for casual pub play, and quite frankly, that eliminates a large part of the potential playerbase. shrug

(Fetter) #49

I think BRINK is a flawed game, but also has great core gameplay. That being said, it’s somehow attracted way more haters than any other game I’ve seen. I played W:ET back in the day, and I honestly prefer BRINK-- I am overall happy with my preorder and will probably buy the Psycho pack shortly. Are there problems with the game? Definitely. But overall, the core gameplay of BRINK is still something that you can’t really get elsewhere, and to me that makes it all worth it.

(H0RSE) #50

That’s funny, because I thought the competitive community only made up a small percentage of a games overall player base.

(INF3RN0) #51

I think the term “competitive players in general” is more appropriate. Although leagues aren’t as numerous anymore in games like ET and ETQW, competitive players still enjoy pubbing. You don’t even have to participate in leagues or organized matches to be competitively focused either. It’s all about whether you gain satisfaction from the competitive structure of a game or just unrefined fun. A lot of the ETQW pubbers I know lost interest because they were used to something a bit more on the competitive side, even when it’s just a pub.

(.Chris.) #52

If player retention is anything to go by it’s not just a problem for competitive players. 99% of the initial player base can’t all be ‘wrong’.

(sereNADE) #53

brink is certainly not acceptable for even pub play; i wish people would stop saying it is. the majority of pub players have ditched it. the majority of players, period, have ditched it. not fit for any kind of play.

how would you define the core gameplay? however you see it, it’s bad in its own right and in comparison to other teamplay fps and ofc, as we all know, sd’s own previous titles.

the people here that do like brink, great! you only have better places to go from here.

all the complaints and suggestions… nothing more needs to be said as its all collected and waiting to be addressed; if it ever will be.

(RabidAnubis) #54

[QUOTE=nephandys;374229]In all fairness man we discussed a lot of these issues to death before you even joined the forum (I know I haven’t been here that long). Even the most rabid Brink fan at this point has come to admit that there’s flaws in the game. Body type imbalance and weapon spread seem to be the biggest issues cross platform, while PC has some more specific issues that relate directly to them. Just because we’re willing to point out and accept these flaws doesn’t mean we hate Brink or are being “negative.” These points are generally being discussed for positive reasons - we want to provide input to assist with tweaks being made to the game, to generally provide feedback to the devs, and to discuss this game/gaming because that’s what we’re into. That’s most of what I see going on outside of a minority of posts espousing what a crap game this is and/or how someone is quitting.

I play Brink pretty much every day and love the game for what it is, but just like most other things out there it has flaws too.[/QUOTE]

Not sure if you were referring to me.

But either way, LOL.

(Dragnerok X) #55

how would you define the core gameplay? however you see it, it’s bad in its own right and in comparison to other teamplay fps and ofc, as we all know, sd’s own previous titles.

the people here that do like brink, great! you only have better places to go from here.

This is purely an opinion, you shouldn’t present it as absolute truth.

(sereNADE) #56

i can present it how i want and given the subject at hand and present company i think it’s a safe bet it is understood as opinion. how dense do you have to be to take it as an absolute truth?

well, how about i wait to hear from people what is so great about brink’s core gameplay.

(Dragnerok X) #57

i can present it how i want and given the subject at hand and present company i think it’s a safe bet it is understood as opinion. how dense do you have to be to take it as an absolute truth?

Ay ay ay. Flaming is not necessary. I’m sorry. :frowning:

(Crytiqal) #58

[QUOTE=sereNADE;374560]
well, how about i wait to hear from people what is so great about brink’s core gameplay.[/QUOTE]

Yea, how about that.

Everytime someone says BRINK isn’t good the only responds is: “You’re wrong”

Would be nice to read why people think BRINK IS good?

(.Chris.) #59

You’ve got to put in the hours to be in the know.

Times are changing.

CQC.

(gooey79) #60

Lol!

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