GG Tournament 2013

(rUBBEN) #341

[QUOTE=Wizard;446066]Addendum to the rules:

All scheduled match times must be e-mailed to ggtournament2013@gmail.com at least 24 hours in advance of the game. This ensures that the admins have enough time to determine who will officiate the match, and for shoutcasters to be present during the game.

Please also remember that both teams must e-mail the account after the game has occurred with the results, including maps played and who won each map.

Thanks, and good luck with your games!![/QUOTE]

We played yesterday sQwaL vs ZUBR, I emailed the official adress to anounce the match, of course with the agreement of their captain, we had an official admin (rex), we played on an official server with official maps, we did everything according to your rules.
We had to do it quickly because some of our players may not be able to connect for the rest of the week, including me, and 24hours before we did not even know who we would have to face.

And today you post an addendum that even admins seemed not to expect. If it means we need to play this match again, you put us in quite a complicated situation.

The admin even said he would send the results, so everything looked fine. Please take in account that the addendum had not been posted when we played this match, and validate it.

EDIT : Shoutcasts are fun, but it must not be binding for the teams, just saying.

(Nemesis1415) #342

[QUOTE=rUBBEN;446169]We played yesterday sQwaL vs ZUBR, I emailed the official adress to anounce the match, of course with the agreement of their captain, we had an official admin (rex), we played on an official server with official maps, we did everything according to your rules.
We had to do it quickly because some of our players may not be able to connect for the rest of the week, including me, and 24hours before we did not even know who we would have to face.

And today you post an addendum that even admins seemed not to expect. If it means we need to play this match again, you put us in quite a complicated situation.

The admin even said he would send the results, so everything looked fine. Please take in account that the addendum had not been posted when we played this match, and validate it.

EDIT : Shoutcasts are fun, but it must not be binding for the teams, just saying.[/QUOTE]

rUBBEN. Your match will stand. Like you said. The ammendum came after. This is just going forward is all. We understand that there are weird schedules for everyone and if a match must be played immediately, then it can be played but please mention that in your scheduling email.

Shoutcasts aren’t required but are part of what this tournament is about so we’d like to be able to shoutcast as many as possible.

You still need to send in a scorecard though. Even if Rex has already. Thanks.

(Nemesis1415) #343

There should be no password for the TAW servers. IF there is however (due to leftover server config stuff) the password would be: helloworld

One word all lower case

(onYn) #344

TAW has many servers, so you should make sure to join the official GG Tournament server, and not another one. Only the GG Tournament servers are passwordfree and ment to be used for the tournament.

rUBBEN: First of all, maybe talk to me like a normal person sometimes, and mention that you and someonelse of your team can´t play this week anymore, instead of just cursing. Then we can get along a little bit better, maybe… The abbendum was also expected from the admins, because I was talking to Rex about it, and also to you.
In my oppinion a team that can play only once a week, isn´t acceptable for such a tournament tho (of course I am just a poopy admin, and it´s not up to me to decide). Sometimes life is busy, so it is ok to happen here and there, but if it happens multiple times, I think it´s unfair and not really showing any respect to the efforts the officials and other teams put into this tournament.

(Rex) #345

We really do need casters/streamer for Turtle Power! vs Masterclan, as this will be the most exciting match in the first round. Would be a shame if we can’t do our community a favour and stream this. I count on these both teams!

(Graver) #346

Np Rex ;] I’ll stream it ;] “I’ll do it live!” :smiley:

(Kl3ppy) #347

when is the match?

(rUBBEN) #348

[QUOTE=onYn;446215]
rUBBEN: First of all, maybe talk to me like a normal person sometimes, and mention that you and someonelse of your team can´t play this week anymore, instead of just cursing. Then we can get along a little bit better, maybe… The abbendum was also expected from the admins, because I was talking to Rex about it, and also to you.
In my oppinion a team that can play only once a week, isn´t acceptable for such a tournament tho (of course I am just a poopy admin, and it´s not up to me to decide). Sometimes life is busy, so it is ok to happen here and there, but if it happens multiple times, I think it´s unfair and not really showing any respect to the efforts the officials and other teams put into this tournament.[/QUOTE]

We arranged everything to play our match according to the rules of this cup, so what more should we do ? Giving you a free pass to quarter finals ?

You think banning the 3lacks from awesome dudes server is showing respect to the efforts Wizard and Nemesis made to get people back to this game ?

The head admins told me clearly that there was no problem with this match, so what do you want ? A medal ? A minute of glory ?

If I was harsh on IRC yesterday it’s because you start the conversation with " You are just stupid ", you think this is the way that an " admin " should talk to team captains ?

And finally, we may get along a bit better when you will stop your lame jokes against french people, racism is not the way to make friends.

EDIT : I prefer to do a little drama here and to say clearly what is wrong, than keeping things quiet and let them becoming too serious.

(Ashog) #349

Let the drama beginn! :slight_smile:

/rubs his hands in anticipation 8)

(onYn) #350

[QUOTE=rUBBEN;446326]We arranged everything to play our match according to the rules of this cup, so what more should we do ? Giving you a free pass to quarter finals ?

You think banning the 3lacks from awesome dudes server is showing respect to the efforts Wizard and Nemesis made to get people back to this game ?

The head admins told me clearly that there was no problem with this match, so what do you want ? A medal ? A minute of glory ?

If I was harsh on IRC yesterday it’s because you start the conversation with " You are just stupid ", you think this is the way that an " admin " should talk to team captains ?

And finally, we may get along a bit better when you will stop your lame jokes against french people, racism is not the way to make friends.

EDIT : I prefer to do a little drama here and to say clearly what is wrong, than keeping things quiet and let them becoming too serious.[/QUOTE]

Just stating my oppinion, and telling you were you have been wrong and that teams that can play only once a week doesnt fit in a tournament and just should try to find more time. Never intended to get rid of any team, it´s just not my style. I am looking forward to beat you :P, no matter how sureal it seems right now. Also I havent said that you are stupid, just that it is stupid to write an email 20 minutes before the game begins. And in the end I asked you gently to shedule the game differently, for the sake of the people who would like to watch it, like myself.
I understand now, unlike before, that you don´t know when im seirous and when not. Allways thought you would understand the difference. Obviously you cant, and of course I will turn them down now.
If you feel offended in anyway, tell me, but don´t cry me a river and think that I want to get rid of you in any way (there is also no way I could do this…). Like I said I am looking forward to play against your team. And dont make me responsible for things I doesn´t have any impact on please.
Besides that, nice drama! I missed it =)

(rUBBEN) #351

That’s what kids say in the schoolyard " I did not mean to ". And saying everything twice doesn’t make what you say more important, it just make your post bigger.

(_Wizard_) #352

Alright guys, let’s get back on track here. The rule has been set: from this point forward, match times must be e-mailed 24 hours in advance, and win/loss results must also be e-mailed after the match (existing rule, but just a reminder). sQwaL’s score will stand as they had already played their match before the rule was set.

Let’s keep in mind that we’re all here just to play a game, nothing more. Take it out on each other in the battlefield. :slight_smile:

(rUBBEN) #353

I will just ignore your " I did not mean to ", that’s what kids say in the schoolyard.

To finish this enrichissing conversation : As an admin you should be happy to see that matches are being played in time, because I am not 100% this will be the case for all of them, instead of harassing teams that do their best to be honest.

And, beat turtle’s first and then you can hope to beat us :wink:

(rUBBEN) #354

[QUOTE=onYn;446334]Just stating my oppinion, and telling you were you have been wrong and that teams that can play only once a week doesnt fit in a tournament and just should try to find more time. Never intended to get rid of any team, it´s just not my style. I am looking forward to beat you :P, no matter how sureal it seems right now. Also I havent said that you are stupid, just that it is stupid to write an email 20 minutes before the game begins. And in the end I asked you gently to shedule the game differently, for the sake of the people who would like to watch it, like myself.
I understand now, unlike before, that you don´t know when im seirous and when not. Allways thought you would understand the difference. Obviously you cant, and of course I will turn them down now.
If you feel offended in anyway, tell me, but don´t cry me a river and think that I want to get rid of you in any way (there is also no way I could do this…). Like I said I am looking forward to play against your team. And dont make me responsible for things I doesn´t have any impact on please.
Besides that, nice drama! I missed it =)[/QUOTE]

I will just ignore your " I did not mean to ", that’s what kids say in the schoolyard.

To finish this enrichissing conversation : As an admin you should be happy to see that matches are being played in time, because I am not 100% sure this will be the case for all of them, instead of harassing teams that do their best to be honest.

And, beat turtle’s first and then you can hope to beat us :wink:

(onYn) #355

[QUOTE=rUBBEN;446348]I will just ignore your " I did not mean to ", that’s what kids say in the schoolyard.

To finish this enrichissing conversation : As an admin you should be happy to see that matches are being played in time, because I am not 100% sure this will be the case for all of them, instead of harassing teams that do their best to be honest.

And, beat turtle’s first and then you can hope to beat us ;)[/QUOTE]

And you seriously telling me in this arrogant way what I have to do?

If someone understands something wrong, what was not ment this way, it is legit in the world of adults to settle things properly. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. It´s actually the much more efficient way to solve problems, then being sarcastic, ignorant and arrogant. What you my friend have been in every single sentence you have written so far. Everyone who has an idea of how to talk properly, will tell you that this is not the way to solve problems before they become big, that´s actually making small problems big.

Pleases, get your drama done, reread and maybe understand what I have written, and then adress me personally (by writing a private message) if you want to solve something seriously. Otherwise I am done with you.

Edit: I almost forgot: You are the one, who brought up the point about playing with you. Not me… At least thats what you must have been referring to by saying

even tho you prolly ment the semi finals, because otherwise it would make no sense.

(G4RB4G3) #356

OK jeez guys everyone gets so butthurt so easily on the interwebz… forums make you go mad, I know I am on like 100 different forums for every hobby I have… :stuck_out_tongue:

Anyways, FWIW, scheduling is a total PITA… I am trying to work with Ace on Taw/Blue to schedule a match (in a week no less), and honestly I have heard back from 2 people, and their schedules don’t even work with Taw’s at this point. So we are re-thinking the date now. It is slow and painful, and honestly I’m not sure 1 week is truly sufficient either… if Wiz and Nem took over the scheduling I’m sure it would be 100% better but then they are doing that and already are well in over their donated time on setting this whole thing up in the first place… including servers and web sites and an application for us to register with, etc…

So just be patient with one another, I know I am finding it hard to as well but we just have to live with it and forage on to the greater goal of this tournament… We are all alums here and many of us won’t be playing another game after this tourny has ended… so let’s go out in a blaze of glory and not shame and arrogance. We all talk trash… (hence my name: Garbage)… :stuck_out_tongue:

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(_Wizard_) #357

Another rule addendum

If, during a round, the teams are forced to play a tiebreaker, the tiebreaker map CANNOT be the same as one of first two maps just played.

That is all. Thanks, and have a nice day!

(Kl3ppy) #358

Ha, 2 days of the tourney are done, and we have the usual etqw drama. Awesome!

(Dope) #359

As usual.
By the number of drama ETQW will beat the tv-series of Santa Barbara.

(Gvardman) #360

I got a question. Can team who pick the map also choose if they attack or def first?