evidence of cheating

[gg2ez]

[quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;141610”][quote=“gg2ez;141587”][quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;141582”][quote=“gg2ez;141573”][quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;141571”]@gg2ez
How are they cheating the system? They’re just doing what the missions state. Get X xp.

My future is pretty bright tbh. A recent graduate and already got a position that pays more than the average graduate role.
[/quote]

They’re cheating the system because they’re not completing the missions the way the devs intended. They created a first person shooter, not a first person farmer.

Good job on graduating, I mean, unless you took the easy way out on that one too. [/quote]

Thanks, I’m a Computer Science graduate.

I think if they were to cheat the system, it would be somehow getting xp missions done in a solo match. I don’t think the devs really care about how you get your xp. Of course if they really didn’t intend you to be able to get xp with low players, then they could simply have warm up until x% of players enter the server.[/quote]

So you’re saying that the devs intended XP farming to be a thing? You sound like you could be pretty competent with computer science but damn, you’re horrible at interpreting common sense. (Again, forgive the Ad Hominem.)[/quote]

The problem is, does it even matter if they farm xp in a quiet game? Levels don’t do anything, so even assuming that they are boosting their own ego, let them be? It’s not like they gain any unfair advantage. Wouldn’t it be no different to play with pistol only or knife only or even defib only? I’m pretty sure the devs didn’t intend the game to be only played with one type of weapon.[/quote]

Pressing F over and over or having a knife fight. I think I’ll go with a knife fight. It’s pretty different, one option is where you’re fighting eachother, as is common in an FPS, and the other is where you’re pressing F while looking a piece of C4 over and over again, which if you ask me, isn’t how you play an FPS. Yes, XP doesn’t give them jack-sh*t but credits from missions does.

[Terminal_6]

So this is kind of unrelated to the argument at hand, but I have to ask: what constitutes XP farming in Dirty Bomb? I’m not asking to compare answers, I’m asking because I do not know.

Since the images in the OP were redacted, I don’t know if what’s being referred to is an excessively passive playstyle or illegitimate “hax”.

[gg2ez]

[quote=“Terminal_6;141615”]So this is kind of unrelated to the argument at hand, but I have to ask: what constitutes XP farming in Dirty Bomb? I’m not asking to compare answers, I’m asking because I do not know.

Since the images in the OP were redacted, I don’t know if what’s being referred to is an excessively passive playstyle or illegitimate “hax”.[/quote]

It’s basically where two dudes join an empty server and just repeatedly plant and disarm C4 for experience because they can’t be bothered to complete missions like a regular person. Sometimes, you’ll even get obnoxious pricks try and do it on servers where there’s a serious game happening.

[extraordinaryEmperor]

[quote=“gg2ez;141614”]

Pressing F over and over or having a knife fight. I think I’ll go with a knife fight. It’s pretty different, one option is where you’re fighting eachother, as is common in an FPS, and the other is where you’re pressing F while looking a piece of C4 over and over again, which if you ask me, isn’t how you play an FPS. Yes, XP doesn’t give them jack-sh*t but credits from missions does. [/quote]

But that’s you, that’s why I’ve been calling you narcissistic. Anything that falls outside of what YOU would do is automatically bad. So you agree that fighting with a knife only is basically outside of what the devs had in mind.

I’ve joined a game before of around 5 players. They were all sniping for some reason and I went to play as though it were a normal game. They asked me if I could not interrupt their sniping game so I did so, as long as they helped me complete my game xp, which they did.

And so what if people want to farm their game xp. Game xp is the most difficult one to earn, and not everyone is good enough or lucky enough to be the main objective person. Credits don’t affect you either. That’s like being angry that someone just bought their way into an obsidian (or whatever is the highest) skin. Sure, it may be within the dev’s idea but I doubt you’d say they ‘deserved’ it.

[gg2ez]

[quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;141642”][quote=“gg2ez;141614”]

Pressing F over and over or having a knife fight. I think I’ll go with a knife fight. It’s pretty different, one option is where you’re fighting eachother, as is common in an FPS, and the other is where you’re pressing F while looking a piece of C4 over and over again, which if you ask me, isn’t how you play an FPS. Yes, XP doesn’t give them jack-sh*t but credits from missions does. [/quote]

But that’s you, that’s why I’ve been calling you narcissistic. Anything that falls outside of what YOU would do is automatically bad. So you agree that fighting with a knife only is basically outside of what the devs had in mind.

I’ve joined a game before of around 5 players. They were all sniping for some reason and I went to play as though it were a normal game. They asked me if I could not interrupt their sniping game so I did so, as long as they helped me complete my game xp, which they did.

And so what if people want to farm their game xp. Game xp is the most difficult one to earn, and not everyone is good enough or lucky enough to be the main objective person. Credits don’t affect you either. That’s like being angry that someone just bought their way into an obsidian (or whatever is the highest) skin. Sure, it may be within the dev’s idea but I doubt you’d say they ‘deserved’ it.[/quote]

Yeah, but here’s the thing, it’s not what just what falls outside of what I do, it’s what falls outside of common sense. Come on, mate. Be realistic, compared to fighting (which is what you’re supposed to do in an FPS), looking at a piece of C4 and holding F is stupid and you’re just making excuses if you say otherwise. Seeing as having a knife fight is fighting, I’d think the devs would prefer to see their work go into that rather than C4 farming.

If they spent their money to get the Obsidian/founders cards they deserved it, that’s money that they worked for. I’d hardly call XP farming “work”.

[extraordinaryEmperor]

[quote=“gg2ez;141648”][quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;141642”][quote=“gg2ez;141614”]

Pressing F over and over or having a knife fight. I think I’ll go with a knife fight. It’s pretty different, one option is where you’re fighting eachother, as is common in an FPS, and the other is where you’re pressing F while looking a piece of C4 over and over again, which if you ask me, isn’t how you play an FPS. Yes, XP doesn’t give them jack-sh*t but credits from missions does. [/quote]

But that’s you, that’s why I’ve been calling you narcissistic. Anything that falls outside of what YOU would do is automatically bad. So you agree that fighting with a knife only is basically outside of what the devs had in mind.

I’ve joined a game before of around 5 players. They were all sniping for some reason and I went to play as though it were a normal game. They asked me if I could not interrupt their sniping game so I did so, as long as they helped me complete my game xp, which they did.

And so what if people want to farm their game xp. Game xp is the most difficult one to earn, and not everyone is good enough or lucky enough to be the main objective person. Credits don’t affect you either. That’s like being angry that someone just bought their way into an obsidian (or whatever is the highest) skin. Sure, it may be within the dev’s idea but I doubt you’d say they ‘deserved’ it.[/quote]

Yeah, but here’s the thing, it’s not what just what falls outside of what I do, it’s what falls outside of common sense. Come on, mate. Be realistic, compared to fighting (which is what you’re supposed to do in an FPS), looking at a piece of C4 and holding F is stupid and you’re just making excuses if you say otherwise. Seeing as having a knife fight is fighting, I’d think the devs would prefer to see their work go into that rather than C4 farming.

If they spent their money to get the Obsidian/founders cards they deserved it, that’s money that they worked for. I’d hardly call XP farming “work”. [/quote]

You still have to play the damn game.

[gg2ez]

[quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;141667”][quote=“gg2ez;141648”][quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;141642”][quote=“gg2ez;141614”]

Pressing F over and over or having a knife fight. I think I’ll go with a knife fight. It’s pretty different, one option is where you’re fighting eachother, as is common in an FPS, and the other is where you’re pressing F while looking a piece of C4 over and over again, which if you ask me, isn’t how you play an FPS. Yes, XP doesn’t give them jack-sh*t but credits from missions does. [/quote]

But that’s you, that’s why I’ve been calling you narcissistic. Anything that falls outside of what YOU would do is automatically bad. So you agree that fighting with a knife only is basically outside of what the devs had in mind.

I’ve joined a game before of around 5 players. They were all sniping for some reason and I went to play as though it were a normal game. They asked me if I could not interrupt their sniping game so I did so, as long as they helped me complete my game xp, which they did.

And so what if people want to farm their game xp. Game xp is the most difficult one to earn, and not everyone is good enough or lucky enough to be the main objective person. Credits don’t affect you either. That’s like being angry that someone just bought their way into an obsidian (or whatever is the highest) skin. Sure, it may be within the dev’s idea but I doubt you’d say they ‘deserved’ it.[/quote]

Yeah, but here’s the thing, it’s not what just what falls outside of what I do, it’s what falls outside of common sense. Come on, mate. Be realistic, compared to fighting (which is what you’re supposed to do in an FPS), looking at a piece of C4 and holding F is stupid and you’re just making excuses if you say otherwise. Seeing as having a knife fight is fighting, I’d think the devs would prefer to see their work go into that rather than C4 farming.

If they spent their money to get the Obsidian/founders cards they deserved it, that’s money that they worked for. I’d hardly call XP farming “work”. [/quote]

You still have to play the damn game. [/quote]

And what merit does that bring? Aimbotters have to start the game too.

[Amerika]

Developers of online games tend to have a negative reaction to players not using intended methods to accrue game currency or speed up progression. Players are suspended or banned fairly commonly across all MP games for farming/exploiting etc. And in a F2P game where some of that currency is used in place of actual money then they tend to have an even more negative outlook on players abusing the system with unintended mechanics which includes cooperation with a player on the other team to achieve results. Not only are you trying to gain currency in an unintended way but it could create a situation where many others emulate it. Which then brings about an even bigger amount of outrage from the players who do gain credits in the intended way creating a very negative PR situation.

They also don’t have to have some rule sitting around somewhere as if this was a legal issue. They own the rights to the game you’re playing and in DB’s case even all of the servers you can play on. Your ability to play relies solely on them allowing you to continue playing.

Please think of that the next time you want to either go farm for currency or even something like XP (which means little now but might in the future). Or trying to convince people that it’s just fine and there is no way it could get you into trouble or shouldn’t.

[extraordinaryEmperor]

[quote=“gg2ez;141687”][quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;141667”][quote=“gg2ez;141648”][quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;141642”][quote=“gg2ez;141614”]

Pressing F over and over or having a knife fight. I think I’ll go with a knife fight. It’s pretty different, one option is where you’re fighting eachother, as is common in an FPS, and the other is where you’re pressing F while looking a piece of C4 over and over again, which if you ask me, isn’t how you play an FPS. Yes, XP doesn’t give them jack-sh*t but credits from missions does. [/quote]

But that’s you, that’s why I’ve been calling you narcissistic. Anything that falls outside of what YOU would do is automatically bad. So you agree that fighting with a knife only is basically outside of what the devs had in mind.

I’ve joined a game before of around 5 players. They were all sniping for some reason and I went to play as though it were a normal game. They asked me if I could not interrupt their sniping game so I did so, as long as they helped me complete my game xp, which they did.

And so what if people want to farm their game xp. Game xp is the most difficult one to earn, and not everyone is good enough or lucky enough to be the main objective person. Credits don’t affect you either. That’s like being angry that someone just bought their way into an obsidian (or whatever is the highest) skin. Sure, it may be within the dev’s idea but I doubt you’d say they ‘deserved’ it.[/quote]

Yeah, but here’s the thing, it’s not what just what falls outside of what I do, it’s what falls outside of common sense. Come on, mate. Be realistic, compared to fighting (which is what you’re supposed to do in an FPS), looking at a piece of C4 and holding F is stupid and you’re just making excuses if you say otherwise. Seeing as having a knife fight is fighting, I’d think the devs would prefer to see their work go into that rather than C4 farming.

If they spent their money to get the Obsidian/founders cards they deserved it, that’s money that they worked for. I’d hardly call XP farming “work”. [/quote]

You still have to play the damn game. [/quote]

And what merit does that bring? Aimbotters have to start the game too. [/quote]

Aimbotters are clearly going against the rules by cheating, by inserting third party software, which I’m pretty sure is in the TOS.

[extraordinaryEmperor]

[quote=“Amerika;141713”]Developers of online games tend to have a negative reaction to players not using intended methods to accrue game currency or speed up progression. Players are suspended or banned fairly commonly across all MP games for farming/exploiting etc. And in a F2P game where some of that currency is used in place of actual money then they tend to have an even more negative outlook on players abusing the system with unintended mechanics which includes cooperation with a player on the other team to achieve results. Not only are you trying to gain currency in an unintended way but it could create a situation where many others emulate it. Which then brings about an even bigger amount of outrage from the players who do gain credits in the intended way creating a very negative PR situation.

They also don’t have to have some rule sitting around somewhere as if this was a legal issue. They own the rights to the game you’re playing and in DB’s case even all of the servers you can play on. Your ability to play relies solely on them allowing you to continue playing.

Please think of that the next time you want to either go farm for currency or even something like XP (which means little now but might in the future). Or trying to convince people that it’s just fine and there is no way it could get you into trouble or shouldn’t.[/quote]

That is true, DB could just ban you for no reason other than because they felt like it. Exploiting/glitching is most likely in the TOS (which of course I haven’t read) as it is in most games. But I feel like you can’t even farm in this game because everything is based off on time spent in a game rather than xp earned.

If using in game mechanics to do things is considered as farming, then having a full team of a clan fighting pugs to farm combat xp by not completing objectives could be bannable? If DB has a serious issue with people ‘farming’ then they could simply change the way xp is earnt if you plant/defuse from the same person too often.

[gg2ez]

[quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;141892”][quote=“Amerika;141713”]Developers of online games tend to have a negative reaction to players not using intended methods to accrue game currency or speed up progression. Players are suspended or banned fairly commonly across all MP games for farming/exploiting etc. And in a F2P game where some of that currency is used in place of actual money then they tend to have an even more negative outlook on players abusing the system with unintended mechanics which includes cooperation with a player on the other team to achieve results. Not only are you trying to gain currency in an unintended way but it could create a situation where many others emulate it. Which then brings about an even bigger amount of outrage from the players who do gain credits in the intended way creating a very negative PR situation.

They also don’t have to have some rule sitting around somewhere as if this was a legal issue. They own the rights to the game you’re playing and in DB’s case even all of the servers you can play on. Your ability to play relies solely on them allowing you to continue playing.

Please think of that the next time you want to either go farm for currency or even something like XP (which means little now but might in the future). Or trying to convince people that it’s just fine and there is no way it could get you into trouble or shouldn’t.[/quote]

That is true, DB could just ban you for no reason other than because they felt like it. Exploiting/glitching is most likely in the TOS (which of course I haven’t read) as it is in most games. But I feel like you can’t even farm in this game because everything is based off on time spent in a game rather than xp earned.

If using in game mechanics to do things is considered as farming, then having a full team of a clan fighting pugs to farm combat xp by not completing objectives could be bannable? If DB has a serious issue with people ‘farming’ then they could simply change the way xp is earnt if you plant/defuse from the same person too often.[/quote]

Is gathering XP via farming not farming? XP may not be considered valuable but it’s still considered a “resource”, thus obtaining it via exploits is technically breaches the TOS. Doesn’t matter of you “feel” like it’s not farming - in theory, it is.

[MarsRover]

Dirty Bomb is a F2P game. You are either:

1. a paying player that finances the game
2. a non-paying player.

If you belong to to category 2, then you have one primary function - to populate the servers so category 1 has someone to play with and keep paying. You are basically part of the product. It may sound brutal but that how it is most of the time if something is free - you are the product. By going to an empty server with your buddy and farming XP you are using SD/Nexon’s resources without fulfilling your role. The problem is magnified by the fact that credits are directly interchangeable with real money.

So no, what you’re doing is not OK for pretty much everyone else, with varying levels of harm.

[blisteringOwlNest]

@MarsRover that is an excellent way of looking at it. Kinda makes me feel grimy about doing it with people in nearly empty servers

[watsyurdeal]

Whenever I see people saying players are farming

Considering there’s no real benefit other than cases, and an arbitrary number that either strikes fear in people or makes them want comment on your lack of sexual intercourse, I could really care less.

If devs want to do something about it, ok, just don’t do what you did with the turn speed. Because that’s f%#$ing stupid (and fix it already!).

[extraordinaryEmperor]

[quote=“gg2ez;141919”][quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;141892”][quote=“Amerika;141713”]Developers of online games tend to have a negative reaction to players not using intended methods to accrue game currency or speed up progression. Players are suspended or banned fairly commonly across all MP games for farming/exploiting etc. And in a F2P game where some of that currency is used in place of actual money then they tend to have an even more negative outlook on players abusing the system with unintended mechanics which includes cooperation with a player on the other team to achieve results. Not only are you trying to gain currency in an unintended way but it could create a situation where many others emulate it. Which then brings about an even bigger amount of outrage from the players who do gain credits in the intended way creating a very negative PR situation.

They also don’t have to have some rule sitting around somewhere as if this was a legal issue. They own the rights to the game you’re playing and in DB’s case even all of the servers you can play on. Your ability to play relies solely on them allowing you to continue playing.

Please think of that the next time you want to either go farm for currency or even something like XP (which means little now but might in the future). Or trying to convince people that it’s just fine and there is no way it could get you into trouble or shouldn’t.[/quote]

That is true, DB could just ban you for no reason other than because they felt like it. Exploiting/glitching is most likely in the TOS (which of course I haven’t read) as it is in most games. But I feel like you can’t even farm in this game because everything is based off on time spent in a game rather than xp earned.

If using in game mechanics to do things is considered as farming, then having a full team of a clan fighting pugs to farm combat xp by not completing objectives could be bannable? If DB has a serious issue with people ‘farming’ then they could simply change the way xp is earnt if you plant/defuse from the same person too often.[/quote]

Is gathering XP via farming not farming? XP may not be considered valuable but it’s still considered a “resource”, thus obtaining it via exploits is technically breaches the TOS. Doesn’t matter of you “feel” like it’s not farming - in theory, it is. [/quote]

But that’s not an exploit, that’s just part of the gameplay. Exploits are part of bugs, an unintended features.

[extraordinaryEmperor]

[quote=“MarsRover;141932”]Dirty Bomb is a F2P game. You are either:

1. a paying player that finances the game
2. a non-paying player.

If you belong to to category 2, then you have one primary function - to populate the servers so category 1 has someone to play with and keep paying. You are basically part of the product. It may sound brutal but that how it is most of the time if something is free - you are the product. By going to an empty server with your buddy and farming XP you are using SD/Nexon’s resources without fulfilling your role. The problem is magnified by the fact that credits are directly interchangeable with real money.

So no, what you’re doing is not OK for pretty much everyone else, with varying levels of harm.[/quote]

Then servers will remain empty forever since people won’t be bothered waiting for it to fill up so it can become a proper game. I’ve been in a 1v1 situation for only around 2mins before people started popping. And no, this doesn’t harm everyone else, unless you mean to say that by not paying/contributing to nexon’s resources, then they have a lower budget meaning that everything else may be worse off, then sure. But that’s the same regardless of whether you decide to play once a day instead of every 3 hours.

Anyhow, game xp is basically the only quest that you would be able to farm or need to farm because of the way game xp is gained. Support and combat xp encourages team play and high population servers while game xp does the opposite. It’s almost like win x games again.

[gg2ez]

[quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;142156”]

[quote=“gg2ez;141919”][quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;141892”][quote=“Amerika;141713”]Developers of online games tend to have a negative reaction to players not using intended methods to accrue game currency or speed up progression. Players are suspended or banned fairly commonly across all MP games for farming/exploiting etc. And in a F2P game where some of that currency is used in place of actual money then they tend to have an even more negative outlook on players abusing the system with unintended mechanics which includes cooperation with a player on the other team to achieve results. Not only are you trying to gain currency in an unintended way but it could create a situation where many others emulate it. Which then brings about an even bigger amount of outrage from the players who do gain credits in the intended way creating a very negative PR situation.

They also don’t have to have some rule sitting around somewhere as if this was a legal issue. They own the rights to the game you’re playing and in DB’s case even all of the servers you can play on. Your ability to play relies solely on them allowing you to continue playing.

Please think of that the next time you want to either go farm for currency or even something like XP (which means little now but might in the future). Or trying to convince people that it’s just fine and there is no way it could get you into trouble or shouldn’t.[/quote]

That is true, DB could just ban you for no reason other than because they felt like it. Exploiting/glitching is most likely in the TOS (which of course I haven’t read) as it is in most games. But I feel like you can’t even farm in this game because everything is based off on time spent in a game rather than xp earned.

If using in game mechanics to do things is considered as farming, then having a full team of a clan fighting pugs to farm combat xp by not completing objectives could be bannable? If DB has a serious issue with people ‘farming’ then they could simply change the way xp is earnt if you plant/defuse from the same person too often.[/quote]

Is gathering XP via farming not farming? XP may not be considered valuable but it’s still considered a “resource”, thus obtaining it via exploits is technically breaches the TOS. Doesn’t matter of you “feel” like it’s not farming - in theory, it is. [/quote]

But that’s not an exploit, that’s just part of the gameplay. Exploits are part of bugs, an unintended features. [/quote]

If what @Amerika said means anything then yes, farming is an unintended feature, thus the ToS has been breached.

[Amerika]

[quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;142156”]

[quote=“gg2ez;141919”][quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;141892”][quote=“Amerika;141713”]Developers of online games tend to have a negative reaction to players not using intended methods to accrue game currency or speed up progression. Players are suspended or banned fairly commonly across all MP games for farming/exploiting etc. And in a F2P game where some of that currency is used in place of actual money then they tend to have an even more negative outlook on players abusing the system with unintended mechanics which includes cooperation with a player on the other team to achieve results. Not only are you trying to gain currency in an unintended way but it could create a situation where many others emulate it. Which then brings about an even bigger amount of outrage from the players who do gain credits in the intended way creating a very negative PR situation.

They also don’t have to have some rule sitting around somewhere as if this was a legal issue. They own the rights to the game you’re playing and in DB’s case even all of the servers you can play on. Your ability to play relies solely on them allowing you to continue playing.

Please think of that the next time you want to either go farm for currency or even something like XP (which means little now but might in the future). Or trying to convince people that it’s just fine and there is no way it could get you into trouble or shouldn’t.[/quote]

That is true, DB could just ban you for no reason other than because they felt like it. Exploiting/glitching is most likely in the TOS (which of course I haven’t read) as it is in most games. But I feel like you can’t even farm in this game because everything is based off on time spent in a game rather than xp earned.

If using in game mechanics to do things is considered as farming, then having a full team of a clan fighting pugs to farm combat xp by not completing objectives could be bannable? If DB has a serious issue with people ‘farming’ then they could simply change the way xp is earnt if you plant/defuse from the same person too often.[/quote]

Is gathering XP via farming not farming? XP may not be considered valuable but it’s still considered a “resource”, thus obtaining it via exploits is technically breaches the TOS. Doesn’t matter of you “feel” like it’s not farming - in theory, it is. [/quote]

But that’s not an exploit, that’s just part of the gameplay. Exploits are part of bugs, an unintended features. [/quote]

I already defined what can be banned for based on what previous games have done and is common knowledge. You can choose to ignore it and not believe it and continue but that’s up to you. You can claim that you’re just using “intended mechanics” but you can’t claim that you were playing correctly that is part of the spirit, and more importantly the monetization, of the game. There is no talking around it. You farm and you’re investigated then you’ll be suspended with all credits/xp stripped or banned. It’s happened before when people XP glitched in DB and it’s a common response for many online game companies.

I’m not sure why you’re even debating this as it’s common sense.

[ImSploosh]

I XP farm by killing AFK players.

Works extremely well, especially in Execution!

[extraordinaryEmperor]

[quote=“Amerika;142163”][quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;142156”]

[quote=“gg2ez;141919”][quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;141892”][quote=“Amerika;141713”]Developers of online games tend to have a negative reaction to players not using intended methods to accrue game currency or speed up progression. Players are suspended or banned fairly commonly across all MP games for farming/exploiting etc. And in a F2P game where some of that currency is used in place of actual money then they tend to have an even more negative outlook on players abusing the system with unintended mechanics which includes cooperation with a player on the other team to achieve results. Not only are you trying to gain currency in an unintended way but it could create a situation where many others emulate it. Which then brings about an even bigger amount of outrage from the players who do gain credits in the intended way creating a very negative PR situation.

They also don’t have to have some rule sitting around somewhere as if this was a legal issue. They own the rights to the game you’re playing and in DB’s case even all of the servers you can play on. Your ability to play relies solely on them allowing you to continue playing.

Please think of that the next time you want to either go farm for currency or even something like XP (which means little now but might in the future). Or trying to convince people that it’s just fine and there is no way it could get you into trouble or shouldn’t.[/quote]

That is true, DB could just ban you for no reason other than because they felt like it. Exploiting/glitching is most likely in the TOS (which of course I haven’t read) as it is in most games. But I feel like you can’t even farm in this game because everything is based off on time spent in a game rather than xp earned.

If using in game mechanics to do things is considered as farming, then having a full team of a clan fighting pugs to farm combat xp by not completing objectives could be bannable? If DB has a serious issue with people ‘farming’ then they could simply change the way xp is earnt if you plant/defuse from the same person too often.[/quote]

Is gathering XP via farming not farming? XP may not be considered valuable but it’s still considered a “resource”, thus obtaining it via exploits is technically breaches the TOS. Doesn’t matter of you “feel” like it’s not farming - in theory, it is. [/quote]

But that’s not an exploit, that’s just part of the gameplay. Exploits are part of bugs, an unintended features. [/quote]

I already defined what can be banned for based on what previous games have done and is common knowledge. You can choose to ignore it and not believe it and continue but that’s up to you. You can claim that you’re just using “intended mechanics” but you can’t claim that you were playing correctly that is part of the spirit, and more importantly the monetization, of the game. There is no talking around it. You farm and you’re investigated then you’ll be suspended with all credits/xp stripped or banned. It’s happened before when people XP glitched in DB and it’s a common response for many online game companies.

I’m not sure why you’re even debating this as it’s common sense.[/quote]

‘XP glitching’ that quote right there. I never disagreed with glitching being a bannable offense. And telling someone that they’re ‘not playing properly’ is treading on thin ice. That’s going to be a PR nightmare if someone can quote you on that. Could someone be banned for not doing an objective when they could just because they wanted the game to end quickly? There’s a difference between user freedom and game design.