evidence of cheating


(Ballto) #1

ive censored the names because of name and shame (dumb fucking policy when youre providing proper evidence) but whatever. maybe @Faraleth or the other mods will make an exception.

imagine if real media outlits had the same policy.

“Here we have a mans chat logs and video confession of tax fraud. However we will censor his face and not share his name, as well as alter his voice to as not publicly shame him. We cant have risk of his image being harmed.”

REMOVED

was on an eu server, this kind of behaviour should be perma banned with no exceptions

remember to report these kinds of twits


(gg2ez) #2

EXP farmers are sad excuses for players. People that EXP farm are far outmatched by players that got to their level by actually playing.


(Frogteam) #3

First of all cheaters are the worst and the best thing we can do is report them and wait for justice. Second these people aren’t even cheating in a meaningful way so they’re stupid cheaters. Thirdly you should know by now that the no name/shame policy isn’t to protect the cheaters, it’s to protect people who aren’t cheating, there are plenty of threads that explain that already.

Also you’ll want to scribble those out better, I can read one and almost the second. Or should I make a DB account with the name “Ballto” then go on a cheating spree. Then take a picture and post it on the forums with the name half scribbled out.

This is a real Signature.


(doxjq) #4

That hack I saw the other day was so stupid lol. The guy was able to do objective work by simply pushing his button, even if he wasn’t at the objective - he repaired the EV by looking at a brick wall about half the map away and just holding down his repair key.


(Xan) #5

That’s not call ‘cheating’.it’s ‘farming’


(Jostabeere) #6

Report farminc scum via Nexon support. I don’t know, since it’s NDA, but I remember @Faraleth told me some times ago that they indeed get punished.


(HunterAssassin5) #7

i used to farm missions(farming exp is plain stupid imo), before i signed up here, i think. its a pretty effective way to get credits fast, but not recommended because it makes everything sooo boring. get some friends together to do it if a fancy new merc is out and you need several thousand creds fast, just know that once the missions are done, it really isnt worth it trying to farm credits without them.

i also have some pretty funny stories to tell from the experience. i think once me and 2 other guys triggered a dumb hacker when one of them needed combat xp(enemy phantie) and the other needed support xp(friendly medic), and i didnt need anything, so we managed to sneak behind enemy lines(very important skill to have) when they moved on to the second obj, and they just kept killing and reviving me over and over while i did other stuff. at the end of the match they were rocking something about 15-20k points in objective, and one guy was like “YOU WANT ME TO TURN ON HAX, BRO?”


(SteelMailbox) #8

In the 1st pic you actually bothered to censor.
In the 3rd one you got a bit tired of censoring.
In the 2nd you just said fuck it and made a kindergarten drawing


(Ballto) #9

[quote=“steelMailbox;140737”]In the 1st pic you actually bothered to censor.
In the 3rd one you got a bit tired of censoring.
In the 2nd you just said fuck it and made a kindergarten drawing[/quote]

i gave it the ski mask of censorship

you can still see the I’s

also i had to recensor that thing because i forgot the second one the first time


(Ballto) #10

[quote=“Frogteam;140717”]First of all cheaters are the worst and the best thing we can do is report them and wait for justice. Second these people aren’t even cheating in a meaningful way so they’re stupid cheaters. Thirdly you should know by now that the no name/shame policy isn’t to protect the cheaters, it’s to protect people who aren’t cheating, there are plenty of threads that explain that already.

Also you’ll want to scribble those out better, I can read one and almost the second. Or should I make a DB account with the name “Ballto” then go on a cheating spree. Then take a picture and post it on the forums with the name half scribbled out.

This is a real Signature.[/quote]

to the first point, cheating is cheating. Sure its not an aimbot or some gamebreaking thing, but they should still be punished for not playing by the rules.

second, im aware its supposed to save face in the case of someone taking some ones name, but thats not really a problem.

To make an example, lets say some guy installed an aimbot and made his name (or an alt account named) Ballto.

I, myself, would not be banned, as whatever moderation or admins are around can very clearly see “HEy, there are two balltos, this ballto isnt the cheater this ballto is” and ban the cheating ballto. That is assuming someone took the Ballto name by accident. However, ballto is not a common username, so i doubt that would be the case.

Now your example of “Im going to make an alt account called ballto and blame ballto on the forums to ruin his reputation”

Think seriously about the amount of work that would need to be put into that.

I would have to really, really piss someone off on the forums or play so mlgl33t in game to make them so spiteful of me that they would change their name to Ballto and start hacking on an alt account, and depending on the game also risk an IP ban for all their accounts accessed from their home computer.

They would need to:
-Set up an alt account (easy)
-Find an actual hack (depending on the game, easy to slightly pain in the assish)
-Start hacking enough in games to cause enough uproar for someone to make a forum post.
-Not get banned between step two and three . Remember, I WOULD NOT GET BANNED as whatever mods/admins are in place can see different steam names and account stats. Now maybe the admins might assume im really dumb, but would not just ban an account for having the same name as a hacker.

If they fail step four, they start all over again minus step two. Depending on a few factors, this could mean you need one or in theory dozens of accounts made just to get me called out as a hacker.

-Make a forum post and get enough publicity for it to make a difference. If you make a forum post calling Ballto a hacker, probably only 20-100 people would see it. A decent size, if you forget that dirty bomb has thousands of players, most of whom do not use the forums. Even if everyone on the forums and reddit thought ballto is a hacker, it only counts for a small amount of the playerbase. I havnt even seen anyone from the forums in game ever, except @Xavien since hes on my steam list. Almost nobody would think i was the aimbotting ballto unless they had also met the aimbotting ballto. As of posting this response, even this thread only has 85 views

And, finally.

-Would need to be so childish that they would even consider any of these things.

Most people are stupid, but not childishly so. Almost nobody would even think to do any of this, unless to attempt to make a point as you did, let alone attempt them.

The ONLY people that would EVER have a decent chance because of stupid childish people of something like this happening are mods, community managers, and devs because of people wanting to be “Lololol troll lololol ruining dev names”, which literally anyone with a brain would realize “This isnt the real shoe aimbotting, this is a little twit!”

even though its MEANT to defend innocent people, in the end it just helps guilty people. If for some reason an actual cheater slips through the cracks after 1-10 people report them, the public cant as easily find out who cheaters are to take action


(Ballto) #11

its breaking the rules of the game, thus by definition cheating. Its not HACKING.

its not a ‘crime’ its just ‘avoiding to pay money’


(Xan) #12

@Balto well i guess you’ll have to ban the entire playerbase then


(HunterAssassin5) #13

in other words, it’s “cheating (or ‘gaming’, see what i did there?) the system”

system says you get credits when you finish missions.
system doesnt say you cant farm, and it cant really enforce it anyway.
so, even though there’s an unwritten rule that says “no farming”, since its not in the rulebook, you can do it no problem.
cheating the system


(Faraleth) #14

I had to remove the image because the names were definitely not redacted properly, I’m afraid. You can repost if you cover them up completely.

As for people like this - please just report them to support. There’s nothing that can be done form here on the forums, only support can handle it. However, as people are asking, it’s been confirmed several times that EXP boosting and/or farming like this is most definitely against the rules. :slight_smile:


(gg2ez) #15

And people who do it are equally scummy. The rest of us are trying to have a decent game here whereas idiots like these are just getting in the way. Seriously, if you don’t want to get to where you want to be by playing as it was intended, might as well just f*ck off and not play at all.


(Xan) #16

@gg2ez there are 2 types of farmer. 1st is those that farm in empty servers and wait for people to gather in order to play a proper game.2nd is those “scummy pricks” that thinks they own the servers and make rules.Personally i dont mind the 1st as long as they stop farming after people gather and don’t force ‘rules’.I only hate the 2nd type


(gg2ez) #17

OK, a legitimate question here: Are you the first type?


(Xan) #18

@gg2ez well, i admit, yes i am.Well my argument is if it’s not harming anyone, why not?


(gg2ez) #19

Now here’s another question: why are you farming? You don’t gain any skill from it, you’re not having fun, all you get is a case every level and an arbitrary number next to your name that doesn’t mean anything because you didn’t earn it legitimately. You can get those exact same cases with credits that you can earn in a real game while having fun and improving your skills - why choose the boring, meaningless way to do things when you can give yourself something to strive for?

It isn’t hurting anybody, but it sure as hell isn’t helping yourself.


(Xan) #20

@gg2ez Quick credit gain while waiting for people to fill up the server?Mission completion

Nobody cares about XP in this game,sure isnt me.Only important thing is credits and if you can do it easy,unharming.Why not?