ET: Have you ever been kicked for being too good ?


(Borsuk) #1

Well I did. One time on Goldrush, as Axis, I started as soldier with Flamethrower, and went to guard 2 left entrances to the tank. After cooking few allies, they started insulting me how lame am I, “no acc” “flamethrower requires no skill” etc. I told them they’re just jealous losers, it’s enabled, and to shut up. After tank has been stolen, I obviously changed to Panzerfaust and prepared an ambush. Some time later, after reveiving responses like “STFU” “lame” …they kicked me from the server with 5 minute ban !

Those people obviously never tried to use the flamethrower, or panzerfaust. Any attempt would result in about 20 or so minutes of lying and waiting for a medic. Those weapons are so troublesome and have so many disadventages that I WILL call everyone critizing them an idiot. Except for Last Man Standing, where disabling Panzerfaust is fully justified. Heavy weapons disencourage triggerhappy style of play, and force player to carefully plan his movement. Otherwise he’s dead meat. For a weapon with such limitations, you’d suspect it being potent in some circumstances… .and fortunatelly they ARE. If arogant soldier with godlike aim has his skills nullified because I spent LOTS of time on mastering damn weapon and searching for good spots , it’s my reward and there’s nothing wrong about it. I prefer another style of play, for instance as a medic Light Weapons is my lowest skill.

I often use Panzerfaust as Axis soldier, it’s great defensive weapon. Certainly much more all-around than Flamethrower or Mobile Mg42, which are useful in just several places in the game.
Especially great for panzerfaust are: Rail Gun (axis tower, or top of the stairs near depot yard), and Siwa Oasis (Old City).
I’m also often called lamer/panzer whore for that. I’m often told that “it’s not DM” etc. I hate closemindness. If a weapon is enabled on server, and my class-specific skill encourages using it, I will do that. I always protect objectives.

I tried to defend numerous places in Old City with both Flamethrower and Mg, but they aren’t nearly as effective as camping somewhere high with Panzerfaust, sorry. I have to wait 10+ seconds ( I don’t really know how much) between shots, and have no weapon for self defense if ambushed. Panzefaust is great for removing people hiding behind corners, or snipers.

As for Railgun, especially if there are some allies with good aim, they usually try to make gayfest with SMG’s near axis spawn point. If you are only decent player player on team, there’s nothing you can do about Covert Ops/Fieldops with medics swarming your base. My answer to that is to take Panzerfaust and sneak onto the tower… with lots of allies running around, it’s the greatest Panzerfaust hideout in all 6 maps, and you can prevent Gun Controls from being destroyed. Airstrike cover included, and snipers won’t have much fun hunting you.
It is their fault if they choose to attack our base, I don’t feel sorry for wannabe-spawncampers. 40-50 kills per match is not uncommon on 18 people server. I usually have around 5 or less missed shots, and 0-5 teamkills so I’m not that bad.

Call me whatever you want, I won’t stop. I’m bored of endless SMG fights. Panzerfaust is one of 2 (2nd is Mg) weapons known to kill dreadful Medics quickly and for good. Medics surviving my perfect Flamethrower ambushes make me MAD, even if I often play Medic myself.


(spoon) #2

Well.

On the positive side, I’d say you don’t have to worry to much about being kicked out of these forums for being “too good” at coherency.

As a fellow panzer whore, my suggestion is to just laugh at them and kick out something like: “Do you honsetly imagine that your opinion matters in even the slightest to me?” Follow that up with a fweeeeEEEEEE**BOOM to the face, and things should start to get a little more quiet on the chat console.

That or switch to engineer and show them you can clean house with grenades just as easily.

And finally, you are not defenseless after a panzer shot. I’ve scored more than a few kills with the pistol… a couple of them have been at long range, too.


(Borsuk) #3

I forgot to mention that in same session, on Axis tower, when I run out of rockets and it’s too noisy to make an expedition for ammo (I won’t even mention spamops… ups i did ), I often receive like 2-3 kills per 2 grenade throws… I really like handgrenades :-). It takes some skill to empty moving tug with well-timed handgrenade, especially from my glorious tower :smiley:


(amazinglarry) #4

So far I’ve only been kicked 3 times for “being too good.” as I’m often accused of CHEATING and HACKING which is a load of total crap. It’s one of the best compliments one can recieve, but after you nearly take out the entire team with an mp40 after you say you’re not cheating, it’s hard to convince them, and I’ve been kicked twice by “admins” and once by a call vote. My only repsonse to people whining cause I’m kicking their ass is to “get better.” Hah


(bani) #5

pwning noobs on pub servers impresses nobody.

go play on some clan servers and we’ll see how your ‘1337 mad pf skillz’ hold up.


(DasMonkey) #6

LoL Gotta love when Larry and I get on the same team and we got opposing clans on the other team accusing us of cheating, hacking, being invincible, not dying… aimbotting… I don’t even know what else…
I LOVE when they try to kick me for being an (Insert weapon here) Whore… then i switch and I continue to own them.
“Yeah you can only kill with the fg42, n00b”
“alright then…” (select soldier, flamer)
(5:1 ktd later on the same map, railgun)
“Flamer whore, kick him… " vote, failed, vote, failed, vote, failed…
“Pretty hard to convince people to kick the point leader eh?”
“f’n n00b get a real gun… blah blah”
“sure no prob, i’ll still own you” (select fieldop, thompson)”

and from there on, Still out killed him with a basic gun… then him and his clan buddy both took up flamers and panzers to try and advance… noting he still couldn’t kill us. I can’t remember their tags right now…heh, but they were clearly the whiniest clan I’ve ever encountered. i think the guys name was like “Blazdeth or blazdeath or something close” ahh good times.


(Wraith2k3) #7

What is he supposed to do then? Stand there and let them kill him?
If someone steps into my sights, I’ll shoot at him. It doesnt matter whether he is an “OMG I THINK IM GOD L33T CLANNER” or a n00b.

I’ll play on whatever server comes up in the list. If that server has n00bs on it, then I’ll play with/against the n00bs (joining the team with fewest people of course). If the server has the top 10 players in all the world playing on it, I’ll play with/against them. I don’t go looking for n00bs to slaughter. This game has been out a while now, and we’re starting to see less n00bs on the servers, I’ve played on loads of random servers and encountered plenty of people who are more skilled than myself, and a good way to learn is to play against people who are better than you.

Back on topic, I 've used the panzer a few times, and everytime I’ve done well I get called a panzerwhore.

Yes I know this isnt a deathmatch, thats why we dont have a quake rocket launcher that lets you run at 30mph while instantly firing rockets one after the other.

The PF was chosen to be included in the RTCW, and SD didnt remove it for enemy territory, so it’s logical to assume that they meant for us to use it. Yet players get constantly flamed if they pick the PF and do well with it. What are we supposed to do with it then? Not shoot at people? If I shoot a panzer at someone and he gets killed, then as far as I’m concerned thats a fair kill. Just as being shot by a sniper rifle, SMG, grenade, flamethrower is a fair kill. Same goes if it happens to me.

My advice would just be to either ignore the flamers, or just tell them that your using the PF how it’s supposed to be used. They tend to get quite pissed off at that and try to give some lame reason why your actually not using it apropriately, but usually its just that, a lame reason.
If all else fails, and you get kicked, just try and find another server with people who realise that the weapons are in the game to be USED.


(Sick Boy) #8

I’m very happy with the way soldier weapons are now in ET. Panzer was a lot stronger in RTCW, you can now walk forward with a flamethrower better, the MG is more useful than the venom ever was, and sniper (moved to CO) is also lot less powerfull, thank God & SD for that, or maps like fueldump would be impossible to play with 2/3 snipers on a team.

:clap:


(Borsuk) #9

Yeah, suuuure. I love that. Like it’s a weapon meant to be used on 2 out of 6 maps, and only if you play Axis. So roughly 1 per 12 times…


([=O=]SMYLER) #10

He KNOWS what he’s talking about. This running around shootin’ the shit out of a bunch of rookie, inexperienced, uncoordinated noobs can give you the sense that you are somebody very friggin’ special, you EVER come across an enemy that has even two or three good clan players in it and you start layin’ it down that you’re something special then you and your little tommy gun are gonna need anal surgery if they decide they wanna play properly.

oh yeah btw do you play under the name “Borsuk” 'cos I’d like to see just how hot a potato you really are, I might learn something.


(lauri88) #11

I once got kicked for only playing as cov-op and sniping the whole time… bang oops! you dead… bang you dead too!bang you too… I killed about 95% of time a person in 1 shot. i had my covop skill at 4 stars… :clap: and then… boom! im kicked for being 1337… :disgust:


([=O=]SMYLER) #12

There’s another name in my ET pathfinder I am going to seek instruction from :smiley: . Can’t wait for these “heroes” to log on, I’m gonna learn so much.


(amazinglarry) #13

woah buddy, hope that wasn’t directed towards me… as I never said anything about a PF :beer:

I didn’t start the topic, I just added to it. Because I’ve been kicked for owning some clan guys who were all convinced I was cheating. I have the right to say that, don’t I? I’m not gloating that I have “L337” skillz, I’m just saying people thought I was “hacking” and booted me because they couldn’t understand why they couldn’t beat me 1v1 2v1 3v1, etc. I had 28 kills 1 death when they finally booted me. :shrug:


(alexwryt) #14

:smiley: Yeah you never know how crappy you really are until you go onto one of the servers full of veterans like Sparkytown, and get completely “pwned”.


(weasel) #15

What map? If you were on defense, that’s fine, but if you were on offense, then you got kicked because you failed to help your team with the objectives. There’s nothing more annoying then running into a mine on fueldump while a covert ops sits on top of the hill sniping. Unless you’re taking out someone in particular, like another sniper or an mg that’s been bothering your team, there’s no use for a sniper on offense.


(Borsuk) #16

used to be Borsuk, but it’s Flametrooper recently. Note: I’m from central Europe - ping issues etc.


(Riftgarde) #17

Clans, the bitterness over competition, everyone joining one team on a pub for a one team clan match, the arrogance. I’d rather play with the new players.

Oh, and if you do too well on clan servers, you could get kicked too.
If they don’t shuffle the teams the last 3 seconds of a 6 map campaign because they’re on the losing team.


(SwineHund) #18

Not True Bro… Sniper(preferably 2) in Battery (allies) is great for providing covering fire for Engies, pins the axis down & gives the allies time to make a decent charge.
SwineHund(+)


(grudgebearer) #19

I don’t really care if people play panzer or not…cause if they shoot from long distances and you are paying attention you can usually dodge with a quick sprint, and if they are closer then, oh well, you die and they are ammoless long enough for someone to kill them. But, what i absolutely desest is when you have one idiot that runs around and gets as close to you as possible and shoots the panzer; obliterating you and any number of random teammates or enemies. There needs to be some sort of XP penalty for that type of gameplay.


(Borsuk) #20

Obviously you’ve never seen experienced player using Panzerfaust. Most of the time I have not more than 5 missed shots per match.

I consider 50% accuracy with Panzerfaust a shame. It happened to me today.

On the other hand, in one match (Siwa Oasis) allies won (no engy), but I had 6 Panzerfaust shots and 8 panzerfaust kills. Try to beat that. It’s like 133,(3) percent efficiency.