Credits too hard to gain

(terminal) #61

It doesn’t.
You just shouldn’t be judging how hard it is to earn credits when you’ve only played for 4 days

(SereneFlight) #62

Kdr doesn’t matter. Kills only matter if the enemy can’t be revived and it allows your team to progress or hold the enemy push.
You can easily have the most kills in the match but still lose really quickly.

It really says something about where peoples heads are at when they think if someone doesn’t like a game they must be bad at it.

How about you read all the responses again and before you do so, wipe out this “if somebody doesn’t agree with me, he must be my enemy” attitude. You’ll see that people are just debunking all the nonsense you say.

(prothis) #63

[quote=“formidableWhorl;92472”]You all just assume I am bad at the game. Yeah, some games I will go 5/10 kdr against level 35’s… Many games I lead the team with 30/15 against level 35’s (im level 5)

It really says something about where peoples heads are at when they think if someone doesn’t like a game they must be bad at it.[/quote]

People are inferring you’re bad at the game because a) you inferred it yourself, and b)

Claiming to go 30/15 but complaining about not getting enough combat exp for missions is mathematically inconsistent.

Like others have said, don’t buy normal 1k cases, save up the 17.5k to buy whichever PDP loadout you want, and play the game to have fun.

(formidableWhorl) #64

Honestly, yes I used the word “all” instead of majority because about 2 pages ago my confusion about the missions was settled. But I have to listen to countless people insulting me, ignoring everything I’m saying, cherrypicking things from here and there to try and make me seem stupid… and I’m supposed to rub peoples belly and tell them they’ve owned me with superior logic. Have you not noticed person after person patronizing me, demeaning me… oh that’s right, I deserve it because I am new and it’s me who is being mean to the forum.

Screw it… Yes… I lied… my experience of the game has been wonderful and perfect. It is a perfect game and you are all amazing. I am dumb. Everything I say is wrong. Your logic is amazing you all deserve cake for being so great.

(formidableWhorl) #65

But for those who actually care about the points I was making, here is a summary:

I would have played this game twice as much and put money on it… but because I found myself so broke, and I keep trying and failing to get an autosniper (I have opened 10 bolt action rifles in a row)… I play this game a lot less than I would …and am not going to put money on it.

These were my only points. They are facts. The trolls can try spin this into something else but you literally have no way of disproving my personal experience of the game.

I even put money on my other steam account and bought some dirty bomb stuff, but that steam account seems possibly glitched now. Pity, if it worked I never would have had to come to this forum. Making a suggestion about any video game on the internet gets the most immature responses, even for a bunch of kids it boarders on disturbing.

All I was doing was sharing my experience with the game. Odds are there is someone else who has had a similar experience, but then again, odds were I should have opened an autosniper loadout about 10 cases ago

(prothis) #66

It mainly seems like it’s been a mix of people who have been taking issue with your insistence that the missions are glitched and broken (which has really only applied to the secondary objective missions that have since been removed), which nobody else seems to have experienced, and others trying to give you advice on what to do.

I will agree that the early level credit bonuses you get are misleading for new players, possibly leading them to believe the credits will keep flowing in nice and steady. Hell, if it weren’t for personal frugal tendencies and a penchant for playing medic (drawing me towards Aura when I started), I probably would have blown through those bonuses really quickly too. Unfortunately, what’s done is done, and all you can do is hope SD tweaks things so that newer players don’t make the same decisions you do.

Honestly, for the time being, don’t get so hung up on the PDP, or even Vassili for that matter. There are fifteen other mercs in the game, five of which you currently have access to. Even if you have no lead loadout cards left from trading up in an attempt to get a PDP, their default cards (which you can’t get rid of) range from decent to pretty good. If you keep focusing on what you don’t have and hinge your ability to have fun on whether you have that thing, guess what, you’re not going to have fun. Just try something different and have fun with the game. In the meantime, the credits and cases will build up on their own.

(SereneFlight) #67

…I’ve been wondering for a while but now I’m convinced… This guy only wants attention. Otherwise he would have listened people in the first place but since you get more attention if you keep whining, why stop.
ggwpnore

(gg2ez) #68

Yep, if he doesn’t want to even take our advice and only push sarcastic and snarky comments into our faces and act real sensitive every time someone tells him what he should be doing, why are we giving our advice?

(K1X455) #69

If you’re consistently killing opponents with low HP, you’ll get high K/D R but low Combat XP. If you’re dealing a lot of damage to the enemy team, but someone manages to finish them off (as in my case, which is commonly known as kill steal), you’ll get lots of Combat XP.

In your case, you learned already what the problem is, and several solutions are already presented. Which solution you choose is up to you. Sooner or later, you’ll get the hang of it and by the time you’re level 10, you’ll be more experienced in the game play. In the mean time, learn other things in the game.

(GodsMistake) #70

[quote=“modernBlast;92478”]It says with, for example, "Aura in your squad!. That does not mean you need to actually play Aura, just that she’s in your squad. So if you hate that merc, don’t use but still complete the mission! Pay attention to the type of experience also.

Also you can get whatever loadout you want for only 17.5K credits!

Personally I don’t even bother paying attention they credits roll in so fast.[/quote]

That is quite true. I’ve found that we tend to stick to the same mercs so those missions get me playing a merc I normally would not (I do own all the mercs, some earned, some purchased–I like the game so I’ll support the developers).

To the OP, there is some good advice here. I would stop looking at the credits and focus on doing what you need to do as a member of a team. For example, if there are no medics, go aura. Too many people approach this like team death match and they do not play the merc role as they are supposed to play it. Throw ammo. Call in air strikes. And that one guy thinks it’s a waste of his time to throw ammo, but when he’s laying on the ground, he’s the first one spamming for a medic–you know, those same people who need ammo from sky hammer or arty or Kira. You are rewarded for working as a team.

Ignore the scoreboard. Ignore the k/d ratio. The only thing you need to see is “win” at the end of the round. Credits are your currency, but xp right now is just there–for the moment it serves no purpose. I have over 17 million accumulated xp points and when I checked in the shower this morning, nothing was bigger, I don’t feel any smarter, and I think I still look the same shrugs. Dont get caught up in numbers. Currently I’m level 49 and I still have people tell me I suck because they expect high level players to destroy everyone. I play on a team, not as a solo merc.

Have fun. Enjoy the mercs you can test drive before getting them. I hated fletcher when he came out. By doing the missions, I was forced to play fletcher and I like him now. Also, try playing some pic up games. They should be more organized than a pub game, but still informal. This forum is a good resource and I would hit dbnation.gg and get the teamspeak address so you can hop in and play wth many of the people here. You’ll learn a lot and have fun. Stick around, you’ll like it!

(DMaster2) #71

[quote=“formidableWhorl;92732”]
I would have played this game twice as much and put money on it… but because I found myself so broke, and I keep trying and failing to get an autosniper (I have opened 10 bolt action rifles in a row)… I play this game a lot less than I would …and am not going to put money on it.

These were my only points. They are facts. The trolls can try spin this into something else but you literally have no way of disproving my personal experience of the game.[/quote]
Yes i have, countless people told you that you should stop purchasing cases and instead save credits for the bronze pdp loadout if you want it that desperately. But you don’t listen so i guess it’s pointless to keep giving you advices. Keep crying instead.
Btw if you complain about this game then you don’t have much experience with “f2p” shooters don’t you?

(neverplayseriou) #72

Support xp: easiest to get with a medic (healing and reviving people), then a fire support (dropping ammo, I would not advice kira for this) and after that vassili (I guess his heartbeat sensor gives support xp lol)

Combat xp: easiest to get with any merc with which you can rack up some good kills, do take in account that you get more combat xp for killing enemies with more health.

Game mode xp: gotten by blowing up or repairing primary or secondary objectives, easiest to get with an engineer, on the defender side of an ev map these are easiest to get with a fire support (best option skyhammer).

Stopwatch xp: play stopwatch and get the total amount of xp required (no specific form of xp), joining stopwatch is easiest by going to the server browser, quick join mostly will put you in objective matches.

Objective xp: same as stopwatch but then in objective mode, this however is also easy to join via the quick join button.

Competitive wins/play comp: remove these missions unless you wanna get stomped.

Get … Amount of xp with … Merc in your squad: now don’t make the same dumb mistake as I did when I just started playing and think that your squad is just your entire team (yup I thought that, lets just say I deleted quite some missions :p), your squad consists of the 3 mercs you decide to take into combat.

all you have to do is put the specific merc in your squad you don’t actually have to use them.

Mercs like vassili,phantom, redeye and the fire support mercs (kira, skyhammer and arty) will require you to get a total amount of xp (no specific form of xp).

Assault mercs will require combat xp (nader, rhino and fragger).

Engineers will require game mode xp
(Bushwacker, proxy and fletcher)

Medics will require support xp
(Aura, sawbonez, phoenix and sparks)

Remember that all these forms of xp can be gotten with any kind of merc but most of the times are easiest with specific mercs.

Daily bonus:

Every game mode offers a 500 credit daily bonus for playing a match, for one of the game modes (NOT ALL) you can also get a 500 credit bonus daily for winning a match. These reset at 11:00 Dutch time which I believe is 10:00 in England (in the morning).

Missions reset every 3 hours, do you have a 500 credit missions which you think you can’t complete before the next ones arrive, delete it and hope to get a mission with a higher reward.

Missions reset at the same time as the daily bonus so just count 3 hours to that time everytime and you know when your missions will be reset.

(Backuplight) #73

Moral of the story: 17k will get you the exact bronze loadout of your choice, and don’t waste your credits on cases when you want mercs.

(MissMurder) #74

@formidableWhorl Hey there. Thanks for the feedback on the credit earn rate. We aren’t saying that where it’s at now is final and we do try to come up with new ways to earn them faster…missions, double credit weekends, etc. I know it’s rough just starting out to. Also thank you to everyone in this thread who were being helpful to him/her.

(triteTongs) #75

[quote=“formidableWhorl;91970”]Anyway I feel like I wasted 20 hours just to literally have unlocked not a single thing except vasili who I hate without autosniper, my account feels like a black hole where I could grind for another 20 hours and still have not got anywhere.

If there was some way of selling loadout cards for credits I’d probably keep playing but right now this is just a game I would love to play but just keep getting bored after the smallest amount of time because of the hideously glitched/complicated missions and MASSIVE grind for GETTING NO WHERE.

And im supposed to fight level 35 people like a dumb little lamb when I don’t have a single merc/loadout that I like.

Pass[/quote]

I think you would have liked the missions before they revamped them. Play 3 games “this merc”, etc. They were a lot more newbie friendly, but they were taken out and consolidated into one.

Honestly, they just needed to say "Play X minutes with “this merc” in order to fix that mission.

I do agree that new players seem to have a hard time getting combat xp, especially if they are facing better skilled players.

I wouldn’t be suprised if they revamp the mission system again.

(jubilantBeam) #76

don’t forget its f2p. the few people working on this have to be paid too. this isn’t valve who can just throw staff at some projects because mixed calculations will bring big bucks.
if players want stuff faster, get the “dlc” pack off steam. ~30€ isn’t any ammount of money worth talking about (excluding ppl with real no money), but most are just Q_Q because they have cash for hardware and shit, but don’t want to pay a single buck for software. luckely they often use cracks and get infected with nasty software :smiley:

(SirMurder) #77

In a weekend i can EASILY get 30k by doing my dailies (3 with execution 4K) i do my missions except the ones that i dont like so i reset the missions i dont like and then i make lets say 15k a day because i let my missions reset for new ones.
Oh and another tip, play stopwatch for higher base fee i got 350 base fee from 1 match,
Credit boosters arent worth it it except in double credit weekends.
Happy grinding :wink:

-Ace

(Sussepus) #78

I get 20-30K credits a week and im not even trying. i play like 1-3 rounds a day and still rack up decent amount.

@op if this entire thread is because you’re not getting the auto sniper, why didnt you just buy the bronze loadout card? it would’ve saved you a lot of hassle.
As @Backuplight said: 17K credit gets you the card you want.
Thats no more than 1 week of playing 1-3 matches a day. you can even skip some of the “boring” missions. Its not the herculean task you present it as.

Sorry, but to me it seems you’re just mad because you dont get the correct card instantly for free.

(Lumi) #79

Although this thread seems to have done a pretty good job at conveying my opinion, here’s my two cents:

DB has many faults, but credit earn rate is not one of them. It is the only F2P I know of that actually gives free players a chance at getting decent credits. When they first introduced the credit boosters I wondered why they were even needed.

Missions and daily bonuses provide enough income for the regular player. And I do believe that the biggest issue with OP, is that you want to focus on playing Vassili which you obviously suck at and try to make excuses as to how people jumping is the reason of you not earning credits and not being able to do missions.

Of course if you keep using Vassili all the time and don’t even kill with it, then combat XP is going to be a bitch to get. Not to mention that you won’t be getting any support nor game mode xp if you don’t play medic nor engineer for them.

Bottom line, the missions are fine (although some issues like them not refilling need to be addressed), but you are not actively trying to do them. There is your issue.

You’re just one of many believing that playing a sniper is going to be fun, but playing a sniper in DB requires a high skill level. And it doesn’t come from the fact that you don’t own an automatic sniping rifle. If you were good, then the quality of the gun wouldn’t bother you. Hell, the only reason people go for the auto-rifle is because it’s less penalizing when one misses one shot.

So try and play the rotation mercs for instance: play Aura when you have support missions, play any of the engineers when you need game mode XP and only when you can aim decently with regular mercs, try to play Vassili again.

(SereneFlight) #80

Fire support’s are good for support exp as well in general and defense in Chapel or Bridge… lots and lots of combat, support and game mode exp <3