Cheaters


(I R O N M A N) #21

Poor Kendle. I try to show him gently what a twit he is and he goes off on a sugary-cereal induced attention defecit disorder related post-incarceration flashback and blathers at the mouth in my direction.

Wipe your mouth, Kendle. You are drooling. It will pass.


(Kendle) #22

Great comeback IRONMAN, revert to insults when you can’t win an argument. How long before “this thread has degenerated into flames and insults, I shall not be returning”?

Try answering the rest of the post (and Smylers for that matter).


(Ifurita) #23

/me pulls out marshmallows, graham crackers, and chocolate bars and gets ready to make S’mores


(Kendle) #24

Heh IRONMAN, there’s a thread over on PlanetWolfenstein that’s right up your street. You don’t go by any other names do you? Like UberBeast for instance?


([=O=]SMYLER) #25

Well ?[/quote]

Yeah, merely out of interest what and which is it and with which examing body was the above 150 rating awarded ?

It’s a simple question, MUCH simpler than anything in the M***a preliminary examination.

*** edited in case of any hint or aid in investigation of subject (of which the subject has fuck all knowledge).


(Kendle) #26

Smyler, you realise he didn’t actually say he had an IQ of 150, merely that we/you would need an IQ of 150 to respond to his post.

Presumably a certain IQ is required to refute IRONMAN’s position, mere facts are irrelevant in any debate with him.


([=O=]SMYLER) #27

Very true, but to be able to make such comment a knowledge of ones own mental abilites MUST be known so as to set a standard to which another must attain or better for that matter.

Otherwise it is INCREDIBLY foolish to make remark or reference to IQ.

What am I saying though the guy IS a fuckwit. Forget it :smiley: .


(Kendle) #28

You’d have thought, but this is IRONMAN we’re talking about here…


([=O=]SMYLER) #29

Sorry man, you did get that in before my edit.


(I R O N M A N) #30

I don’t know kiddo. You started this with your imbicilic bashing by saying. “Was his name IRONMAN?”. Do you plan on continuing your imbicilic bashing? :huh:

BTW, I play games with only one name. WTF would be the point in having more than one? Besides, a lot of ex-Quake II players know my gaming name, so I’ve stuck with it.

Yea, here’s a bot demo for you. Since you say bot users don’t exist in Wolf ET. http://home.jam.rr.com/director/bot_guy.dm_82

Now be a good boy and flatulate yourself somewhere else.


(Kendle) #31

I don’t know kiddo. You started this with your imbicilic bashing by saying. “Was his name IRONMAN?”. Do you plan on continuing your imbicilic bashing? :huh:
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It wasn’t “imbecilic bashing”. I was merely ridiculing you as you are now, through your own words and deeds, a figure of ridicule, as I explained earlier.

Thanks for the demo, I’ll watch it when I get home if I get time (refereeing for an RTCW tourney tonight and tomorrow so might not). In the meantime, would you please answer the other points/questions in my previous posts and in Smyler’s?

edit: Just for the sake of completeness, I never said aimbots don’t exist, nor did anyone else here. We merely refuted your claim that there was one on every 2 servers (which was your original claim). Seeing as you made that claim a few weeks ago, I’m astonished it’s taken you this long to provide a demo. I’d have expected several demos, of several different players by now. That’s assuming this is one. I’ll reserve judgment till I’ve seen it.


(Ifurita) #32

FWIW, I don’t think the ‘discussion’ at hand was whether cheats/bots exist or not, but rather whether or not everything you are claiming as a cheat/bot really is a cheat/bot. IMO, that’s a pretty important distinction. I’ve watched 3 of the demos you posted and to be honest, with the exception of bot_guy, I see normal panzer characteristics where you claimed (and later retracted) a cheat and asinine door blocking where you claimed another cheat. It’s pretty clear that bot_guy was using an aimbot, but he also didn’t make it very hard to identify himself.

Given those 3 data points, you haven’t (in the mind of this third party observer) established a credible track record for identifying cheats, hacks, or bots, which, I believe is the point the others are trying to make.


([=O=]SMYLER) #33

I would also like to make the point that he is a stupid argumentitive cunt that has no idea what IQ even stands for never mind what his is.


(Kendle) #34

OK home now, watched the demo, and I have to say, oh dear, IRONMAN, that’s a bit lame.

  1. You’re not on the server (the point in debate is that YOU see aimbots everywhere).

  2. The guy’s obviously using a wall-hack (he even tries to shoot through walls). Very obvious. You claimed you could see aimbots that us mere mortals couldn’t.

  3. His name is “wallhack-tester”. Even more obvious.

Sorry IRONMAN, try again. No one said hacks didn’t exist, we just challenged your assertion that “on every 3 - 4 servers I see 1 or 2 aimbot/hacks”. Once again I challenge you to prove it.


(I R O N M A N) #35

The demo clearly shows autoim, perhaps wall hack too. Can you not see the guy’s weapon following the enemy almosy perfectly? Do you ever see the gun go up or down even slightly? No, because it is constantly aimed at the guy’s head. Kendle, now I am starting to think that you are beyond help. The demo is not even mine, but it is a perfect example of autoaim. As I have said, I have better things to do that run around spectating for demos to educate you. Anyway…

No. What I said was that I see an autoaimer on every 3rd or 4th server I play on. Do not misquote me.

It’s not a priority for me to spectate people to make demos. It is a bigger priority for me to play and have fun. Besides, why bother spending my time to make demos to convince you of what you already know? You seem to have 2 personalities: one for bashing at anyone you don’t like for some reason, and another for trying to make yourself look good.

You are a hypocrite. On Jul 12, 2003 you posted in one thread:

But a week later on Jul 22, 2003 you posted in a different thread:

Make up your mind Kendle. I can’t help you if you never see an autoaimer. I don’t know how to train you so that you can recognize it. Perhaps it’s just experience at FPS gaming that makes the difference, I don’t know. But just because YOU don’t see it (yet you know it exists ???) don’t go blathering off at someone else because THEY DO see it from time to time.

People have better things to do than to spend their time making demos to educate YOU on what autoaim looks like while actually playing and not when spectating. It’s not that hard to tell when someone is autoaiming if you are spectating them, much harder to tell if you are playing against them. Perhaps the ability to see it when playing and not spectating comes from experience. Perhaps intelligence, perhaps common sence. But whatever the difference is, why don’t you spend YOUR time hoping servers and spectating everyone to find and demo these punks. Do it on YOUR time for YOURself. I would say that it is YOU that is a figure of ridicule for your fat-mouth bashing and hypocricy.

You know that autoaim exists, but only when YOU say it does, and if someone else says they see it here and there, well, it cannot be so because it was not YOU that said it. Just get with it Kendle. Get with it.


(nodgam) #36

kick\ban :blah: :bored:


(SCDS_reyalP) #37

LMAO, sounds like ironman reposted the demo from this thread:
http://www.splashdamage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2863
Funny the only demo of a real cheat he posted was found by someone else. :banana:


(I R O N M A N) #38

No, what’s funny is that you read what I said about not wishing to do someone’s homework for them to make demos of cheaters, and yet you open your mouth to blather and bash. Grow up.


([=O=]SMYLER) #39

I often find it’s the younger more immature people in the world who so often require those around them to “grow up” or accuse them of “being so immature” also references like “you should get a girlfriend” are another give away of younger people who strive to attain the heights of maturity and consider there own compliment of the said quality to be so much greater than those around them.

The rest of us don’t need to mention it or re-enforce our quotient of maturity as we actually have it and don’t require it to be broadcast as it is wholly unecessary.

By writing the above line I (by my own mention of such things) may have negated my “maturity” in the eyes of others, but I personally couldn’t give a flatulant, flying, fiddlers fuck.


(BlackDeath) #40

None of us argue the point of:

“Do aimbots exist in ET?” The answer, yes. You would have to be an uniformed n00b NOT to know the recent hacks discovered by bani

2.) One point argued is “Can you tell if someone is using an aimbot and/or wallhack?”

Answer:

Depends. Depends on how much thought goes into making one, and how much skill/knowledge one has in using one/both. Sure, there are blatent ones, like this one, and the one someone else posted on these forums a little while ago. HOWEVER, there are others that are near impossible to detect without intensive investigation.

3.) Final point being argued. “In every 2-3 cheaters, can i find someone who is using an aimbot and/or wallhack?”

The answer:

Probably not. If you claim you are catching sooo many cheaters with demos, it would be most intelligent to send said demos to evenbalance, so they can help create a cheat-free community that both you ( I R O N M A N), and the rest of the ET community can be rid of one less threat. It is in YOUR best interest, I R O N M A N, to send every demo you find of a suspected cheater into evenbalance for analysis. If it is a cheater, then good work, and hats off to you. If not, evenbalance can sort it out. NO HARM DONE!

I am taking a “nuetral” stance in this continued debate. HERE IS WHAT I ADVISE!

Only intelligent debating from this point on. NO MORE BASHING, SWEARING, OR IDIOTIC RESPONSES!!! This is the only way we will PEACEFULLY reach a conclusion. That means everyone!

I R O N M A N, please, if you have demos of players, send them to evenbalance. I do not know if you do or not. In fact, I dont really care. If you do, excellent, please send them to evenbalance for analysis.

To the Splash Damage forum members. Please, no more BASHING, SWEARING, OR UNFACTFUL ASSUMPTIONS. That includes you, I R O N M A N.

As I said, i believe this is the way to move on. No one wants trolling, so lets try to stop it.

B_D