Brink Whiners-Enough Already

(shango1963) #41

[QUOTE=Wildkarrde;320741]As so often we whingers have been told to be patient that the game will be fixed etc…
I think it’s only fair that people be patient because we will stop whining when the game is fixed.[/QUOTE]

I could be patient with you “whingers” if I knew what that was… As for whiners, developers don’t put bugs in a game to purposely piss us off. I still can’t play MW2 or Black Ops bugs free. However, I have no desire to create an account on those game forums to ramrod those forums with “whining complaints.”

Asking to have bugs fixed is a legit complaint. We’ve paid money for a working product. I don’t think any reasonible person would begrudge that. However, literally bashing a game because the game doesn’t play like other cheerished titles, or about bugs in a manner which excludes the fact that all titles nowadays come almost prepackaged with these, is quite something else. I could see if this was the only title with bugs, but gimme a break.

Sorry, but I don’t have to be patient with bashing poorly desguised as constructive criticism.

(iezza) #42

[QUOTE=Kendle;320819]And therein lies your problem.

For many of us, being PC gamers, and online PC gamers, and online players of previous SD titles PC gamers, the “campaign” was insignificant. I haven’t even started it, let alone completed it, and never will.

I’m sorry to say that, for whatever reason, you bought the game for the wrong reasons. That doesn’t make it a bad game, it just makes it not the game for you.

edit: having said, I was intending to try and get my old DOD:S clan interested in Brink, I’ve been playing COD:BO with them for a few months and I can’t in all honesty recommend this game, it has 1/10th the content and 10x the bugs and just isn’t a proper PC game IMO.

I’m playing it, and enjoying it, but I knew pretty much what I was letting myself in for, but I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone who’s never played an SD game before.[/QUOTE]
I never played an SD game before, and literally this game is Jizzable (not literally) It is THE game i wanted for ages, I pu the middle finger up to Cod, Crysis(cant belive i liked that) and Homefront, Mainstream,yes,bad,yes. im seeing a trend

(Bakercompany) #43

[QUOTE=legend123;320866]Ya man I agree. Back when we were having kd ratios everyone would scream GO PLAY COD.
ugh and I hate COD. I just like numbers (like W:ET had statistics for just about everything).[/QUOTE]

SAME HERE!

I couldn’t get that to people who defended the no-stats thing in Brink.

Brink will never be on the competitive level of CoD games, so the KD chasers will stay there trust me.

I don’t think there would be any harm in stats within Brink. Either way its a moot point because its not going to happen, ever. And this game will remain a sanctuary for people who are afraid of their ratios.

This is such a BS argument it makes my eyes explode.

Man I couldn’t agree more…broken game is broken.

(shango1963) #44

[QUOTE=peteXnasty;320862]To be honest I regret selling COD to get this because now I don’t have any game to play with my friends. None of them will touch Brink.

We got a product that was incomplete. Its now up to SD to salvage the situation, hopeflly BEFORE their console market has vanished…because unlike pc users who can reinstall it, console people sell their games…and then maybe no one will buy it again.[/QUOTE]

What copy did you get? Mine is complete. Lemme check though…

  1. Guns-yes

  2. Objectives-yes

  3. Customizable characters and Weapons-yes

  4. Fireteam comm. and link support-yes

  5. Other Title Clone-No

  6. Singleplayer, coop and versus as same experience-yes

Looks complete to me…

(Bakercompany) #45

[QUOTE=shango1963;320903]

  1. Singleplayer, coop and versus as same experience-yes

Looks complete to me…[/QUOTE]

Quoted for teh lulz.

Singleplayer? You mean, solo multi-player matches, now with bots!

I think thats what you meant there.

(wolfnemesis75) #46

[QUOTE=shango1963;320903]What copy did you get? Mine is complete. Lemme check though…

  1. Guns-yes

  2. Objectives-yes

  3. Customizable characters and Weapons-yes

  4. Fireteam comm. and link support-yes

  5. Other Title Clone-No

  6. Singleplayer, coop and versus as same experience-yes

Looks complete to me…[/QUOTE]

Mine is complete too! I got all 6 on your list too!

(Bakercompany) #47

I don’t know about 5. ADS feels just like a CoD clone to me, same with hipfire spread minus the fact that its just tighter.

And the mods are clones as well. Duct-taped mags? Drum Mags? Extended Mags? Silencers? Red Dots/ACOG? Grips?

While they aren’t bad things at all, I love the weapon customization, they aren’t exactly new ideas. I’m glad Brink has them though, would be very dull without.

Objective based gameplay isn’t new either. Nor are these classes. Nor are the talent trees (notice I call them talent trees?)

Again, if they hadn’t changed soooo much for the worse during development, Brink would have been the breath of fresh air we wanted. As it is though, it just feels like a $39.99 title that cost me $59.99 instead.

(shango1963) #48

[QUOTE=brutt01d;320777]Haha, nice thread, Justice League talking to itself :slight_smile:

The PC version is a mutilated console rip-off, that’s what all the whine is about.[/QUOTE]

If that’s all it was, we wouldn’t be talking about COD or any other title comparisons. As for rip off, please, the title’s cross-platform. Enough already with the PC vs console nonesense. It’s the game, not platform, which is the debate on this thread at least.

(SkAface) #49

i can’t be bothered anymore by children who spend their pocket money on a game they don’t like. all i do while reading one of those threads, i laugh to myself and silently thank them to support the game by buying it. i have allready over 60hrs of game time, and while there are bugs that are annoying, there hasn’t been a game that sucked me in like brink for a long time.

(Bakercompany) #50

Where as some like me feel the opposite.

My engineer hit 20 the other day, and now I feel no need to play at all…

(Swimmy) #51

[QUOTE=H0RSE;320773]COD isn’t successful due to its “extremely high level of polish.” It is successful because it has has features and mechanics that appeal to a high number of people.

It’s like the Beatles - The Beatles didn’t become the greatest rock band of all time, because they wrote extremely complicated and difficult songs. They became successful because they wrote simple, catchy, radio-hits. For lack of better words, they were sell-outs - at east in the beginning. Yes, they experimented with sounds and such, but this was after they were already an established band.

COD is the same way. It’s simple and catchy. In the music world, it would be a top 40 hit. On the other hand, Brink is the exact opposite. Whereas IW/Activision set out to create a game that appeals to everyone, Splash Damage stuck to their guns and designed a game they wanted to play, not everyone else - Brink is a niche title. In the music world, they would be like an underground band or a not so mainstream genre, like Prog.

This is where the debate comes in. You have the main-streamers saying, “this game sucks!” “It’s nothing like what I thought it would be!” “bugs, glitches, more maps, TDM! blah, blah, blah, blah!” And then you have the players who actually get it, and can see past the flaws and what Brink truly has to offer, and they love it.[/QUOTE]

Oh please. I’m into non mainstream. Its what my music consists of. Its a broken game.

(vbl) #52

Your standards are low, which is fine, but you have to recognize that. If you want validation that criticism is in order, go read the Clan/Competition forum where people who are probably better and more experienced than you are leveling the same complaints.

(Sabayon) #53

For ET Players how many of ya actually liked the default “etmain” option.

No one did. That’s why I think releasing SDK would bring out new mods and keep game going for a while :slight_smile:

(shango1963) #54

[QUOTE=Bakercompany;320915]I don’t know about 5. ADS feels just like a CoD clone to me, same with hipfire spread minus the fact that its just tighter.

And the mods are clones as well. Duct-taped mags? Drum Mags? Extended Mags? Silencers? Red Dots/ACOG? Grips?

While they aren’t bad things at all, I love the weapon customization, they aren’t exactly new ideas. I’m glad Brink has them though, would be very dull without.

Objective based gameplay isn’t new either. Nor are these classes. Nor are the talent trees (notice I call them talent trees?)

Again, if they hadn’t changed soooo much for the worse during development, Brink would have been the breath of fresh air we wanted. As it is though, it just feels like a $39.99 title that cost me $59.99 instead.[/QUOTE]

The mods you note are a part of real world military, spec. ops. weapons loadouts. Nothing innovative there as far as games are concerned-not a COD rip off.

What you are missing is the way SD has addressed its take on the genre-the total package, not its individual parts. It does it in a way that encourages teamplay, deemphasizing lone wolf gameplay. None of the things you note, found from BBC2 to Killzone2/3, are unique to any of todays shooters. Single, coop and vesus as one experience is also unique. Not chasing xp as a major part of the experience even more so. Nope, $59.99 to me.

(SkAface) #55

don’t get me wrong but my times for competitive gaming have been long gone, i decided way before brink not to care about leagues anymore and i forgot more about it than most of you care to learn. brink is fun on public and it made me reconcider joining a pickup or two. i admit there is room for improvement but i’m sure most of it will be fixed in the long run, and i will stick around for it, if i’m wrong about it, i don’t care because i already got my moneys worth out of that game.

€: and by no means are my standards low, but i can see the gameplay that is underneath all those bugs, and i am able to enjoy it. i feel sry for you, if you can’t, espacially if you care for competition.

(Bakercompany) #56

[QUOTE=shango1963;320953]The mods you note are a part of real world military, spec. ops. weapons loadouts. Nothing innovative there as far as games are concerned-not a COD rip off.

What you are missing is the way SD has addressed its take on the genre-the total package, not its individual parts. It does it in a way that encourages teamplay, deemphasizing lone wolf gameplay. None of the things you note, found from BBC2 to Killzone2/3, are unique to any of todays shooters. Single, coop and vesus as one experience is also unique. Not chasing xp as a major part of the experience even more so. Nope, $59.99 to me.[/QUOTE]

What I was saying is that its not a clone of one game, its a clone of many games.

The only thing new to this game is SMART, and I love it (even if it is somewhat lackluster). The character customization is amazing, but can’t support the game alone.

When I hit 20 on my engineer, I felt like I was completely done. I went and played a few matches with him and this confirmed it. Especially with zero stat tracking or diverse game modes, what is there to play for? Just fun? Sure, but this game in gameplay is just as fun if not less so than others, and they all have those features many of us desire.

EDIT: Just re-read your post. This game has no single player…to call it that is a joke. Even you have to admit that.

(Farlong) #57

I don’t get why people still seem suprised about complaints with new games. Its all too common.

In the beginning, all the flaws, bugs and technical issues will be reported on. Some people will overreact and claim to start sues, want refunds, demand this and that.
But after all the angry people have vented, and the people with tech. issues have been helped or have given up, things will calm down.

Go to any other forum for a newly released game and you will see just about the same process repeated time and time again.

(Brink Lags) #58

I bought this game to play 8v8 with friends. Not bots. Not 4v4 with bots.

What are bots even doing in MP? What is this crap?

The game lags like no other. My friends all traded in the game. Need friends to play this heavily team focused game. Can’t.

Game over. And people have the balls to tell me not to complain? How dare you.

(WallWeasels) #59

Brink still contains some of the worst errors I’ve seen in total. Yes on launch games tend to have bugs and they can vary in significance. People trying to defend it as such…well look at the total population playing the game. This isn’t because there is no market for this kind of game. Its because it was received poorly, bugged on launch to the point that many people couldn’t play and released in a pre-launch state. :frowning:

(Bakercompany) #60

I can’t really complain about bugs in Brink…

…because i’m a Fallout fan. :smiley: