I actually meant console to console cross platform as I doubt anyone could satisfy PC gamers that their version wasn’t nerfed to let analogue sticks compete
Brink needs Splitscreen
Wulfaur
(Wulfaur)
#42
Please please please include Split Screen online play. Me and my brother just watched the trailer videos on xbox live and we can’t wait for the game, but since he doesn’t have a console, I would be the only way he can play it. I know we would both love to play with a bunch of my friends over the internet. This is such a crucial aspect of multiplayer that gets overlooked in many games, aka Borderlands.
signofzeta
(signofzeta)
#43
splitscreen would be awesome, but like other id tech 4 games, I don’t think it is that possible. I think it might be possible with a huge TV, but meh.
Also, if you have a super duper huge TV, 2 consoles, 2 games, and your TV has picture in picture, or splitscreen mode, in which both sides play sound unlike mine which only one side plays sound, you can actually do a splitscreen.
If this game does not have splitscreen, the huge TV with splitscreen settings, and 2 consoles and 2 games should be a good substitute.
If you don’t have a big screen TV, where when you do splitscreen, it has the dimensions of 2 small TVs on each side, then you shouldn’t play splitscreen. Have you even played splitscreen on a screen that is smaller than the smallest computer desktop monitor?
Getting 2 consoles and 2 games isn’t that hard. Your friend should have a copy and you should have a copy right? If there is system link on 360 and lan on PS3, then this should be smooth sailing. If not, then I’m afraid that well, the PS3 players have it better than the 360 players since their online is free. But this is how it works. Connect both consoles to the network. If you have a router, that is a bonus. Every gamer should have a wireless or hard wired router. That is a must. Now connect both consoles to the router, and connect one to input 1, and the other to input 2, or whatever it is. Now activate splitscreen mode on your TV. If your TV only has one side of the screen with sound and no sound on the other like mine, switch one of your audio cables so that one side plays sound on the left speakers and the other side plays sound on the right.
So about getting audio on both sides of the screen. My TV only has sound from the left screen. If I press swap on my remote control, the sound still plays from the left screen, but the images are swapped. Now to make sound from the left screen play on the left speaker, and the sound from the right screen to play on the right, this is what i do.
Imagine input 1 is left screen and input 2 is right screen. The yellow cable should be as it is, you never ever plug in the cable that plays sound from the opposite side of the screen. You never plug in the red and white cables to input 2 because those send signals from input 2, which is the right screen, except that the right screen does not play sound, only the left one does. Now, experiment. Plug in only the red plug into input 1 for the console that has the yellow cable plugged into input 1. Now listen closely to the speakers to see which side the sound is coming from. If it is the wrong side, then unplug the red and plug in the white. After doing that, plug in the other color from the input 2 console into input 1. This should enable the player 2’s sound to be coming out of the right speakers, while he is looking at the right screen. Player 1 is looking at the left screen and listening to the left speakers.
The downfall of this is that you have mono sound. If you want stereo, then that is too bad because this is at least better than nothing. Also this is from my own TV setup. If yours does not have splitscreen, and if your TV does not have more than one composite plug in things that are either both in the back or both in the front, then too bad, your TV is probably not made for splitscreen play anyway. HDMI won’t work because you can’t swap the sound output just to play one side on one speaker. Component is the best bet if you want good graphics.
The 360 players system link is a better deal since they can directly connect the ethernet cable to the other console.
So. This is exactly how you achieve splitscreen. If you have a tiny TV, and not a bigscreen, which should have a splitscreen mode, then don’t even bother doing splitscreen, because it isn’t a good experience playing on a screen the size of a $200 laptop.
If you are looking to play splitscreen, you should really invest in a TV with multiple inputs on one side of the TV, a TV with splitscreen mode in which the screens are big enough to read text out of, and of course the screen itself should be big. May cost alot, but it is a good investment because with my plans, you can play every single xbox 360 and PS3 and even Wii game in splitscreen mode, provided you have the means to hook up a lan connection, and your friend also owns the same game and console and that he or she brings it over to your place. At least it is better than nothing.
If you have the extra cash, you can use it to purchase a second console just so your friend does not have to lug his machine over.
oh oh another thing, if you say that your friend’s 360 is really plugged in and he is too lazy to unplug it everytime just to bring it to your house, that is, his 360 is buried beneath a bunch of other electronics, then his console probably will have a high chance that it will get RROD. For my 360. I place it so that I can easily unplug it and easily reach the cables. This means good ventilation, which I assume leads to less RRODs. For PS3s, you can’t even stack anything on top of it anyway, so your PS3 should be easy to unplug… I think.
At least this post would help those who want splitscreen and have a TV capable of running splitscreen. Your TV’s own splitscreen capabilities should not be misjudged. Just takes a few input know hows and you are all set.
If you can’t absolutely unplug any of you consoles, maybe your setup is just too messy. I don’t know, for me, both my PS3 and 360 is sitting there behind the TV. I can unplug anything with ease. I can even store it back in its boxes or whatever. Beside the TV would be just sound and audio stuff. My consoles aren’t even on a shelf, so for me, this would be easy.
Your game may not have splitscreen. But you may never know. Your TV might have it.
I’d make a youtube video, but I don’t have a camera, and I’m cheap and I’d rather buy something else. So um, you will have to interpret my essay.
Yeti94
(Yeti94)
#46
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Splitscreen is two players on ONE system and ONE game. It looked like you were talking about having two systems/games one tv which doesn’t really make much sense and much of your post was talking about that.
and, on a average size tv, splitscreen is easy enough to see that you can play the game, i’ve done it on Halo 3 at a friends house and it worked fine.
as for sound, that’s a technical problem that has been solved by every game that has splitscreen (COD, Halo, Gears, Borderlands) so i wouldn’t think that it would be that hard.
DarkangelUK
(DarkangelUK)
#48
I like how games also allow splitscreen online play as well, where you can sign in as a guest, like you can do in Halo 3.
signofzeta
(signofzeta)
#49
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Splitscreen is two players on ONE system and ONE game. It looked like you were talking about having two systems/games one tv which doesn’t really make much sense and much of your post was talking about that.
and, on a average size tv, splitscreen is easy enough to see that you can play the game, i’ve done it on Halo 3 at a friends house and it worked fine.
as for sound, that’s a technical problem that has been solved by every game that has splitscreen (COD, Halo, Gears, Borderlands) so i wouldn’t think that it would be that hard.[/QUOTE]
My suggestion was for those who really wanted splitscreen more than anything in the world. If Brink didn’t have splitscreen, then most people would have walked it off, and moved on. But for those who just can’t walk it off, then if they really want splitscreen in a game that does not support splitscreen, then they should get their asses to the store and buy a second console and a second game. I also said that the friend should have a second console and game they could bring over for system link or lan play anyway, so they would have 2 copies.
As for 2 consoles on one TV, have you even read my post? I said my TV has splitscreen. Picture in Picture? You know? That thing? You know the feature where I can watch TV and play games at the same time on the same TV? I guess your TV does not have such a feature, and that is too bad because my suggestion only helps those who actually have a TV with built in splitscreen capabilities. Also, you must play in 480p or it won’t work. You must be prepared to sacrifice many things if you want to play splitscreen on every single console game that does not really have splitscreen, but other than that, you should just not play splitscreen Brink. This is also why I stress having a big widescreen TV, because some of them have the splitscreen feature. Normal CRTs and square TVs don’t. They do have PoP, but it is just a picture superimposed on the other and that won’t work, like my JVC. My TV downstairs is a widescreen and I can play ETQW on the 360 and on the PS3 on the same TV at the same time, except one side never has sound, therefore I said to take what ever console that is plugged to video 2, and plug to video 1.
If you were like me, playing with family members in the same house, you would buy a second console, a second game, and lots of patience because I can wait for the splitscreen with 2 consoles on 1 TV to happen. It seems that if you can’t wait, you don’t deserve splitscreen. This is a substitute, and if you won’t take it, then no splitscreen for you. If your TV does not have that capability, then too bad.
If you still don’t understand what I said, then I guess I will be playing splitscreen with any 360 game that supports system link, and every ps3 and wii game with lan capabilities, provided that I make enough cash for a second 360 and a second PS3, and you will not be playing splitscreen because you won’t accept any substitute. If Splash Damage explicitly said no splitscreen, then what I said will have to be the only substitute. May sound silly, but it is the only way.
Reanimator
(Reanimator)
#50
Maybe not all of us can afford a, Second console, second game, and a Giant widescreen Tv with picture-in-picture, maybe that’s just me.
Instead of choosing the pricy route we can request splitscreen and see if they implement it, if not, it really doesn’t matter because I’m getting this game no matter what.
Shiv
(Shiv)
#51
You seem to be missing the point of split screen zeta.
There are many reasons people have ONE console with ONE tv. Not enough room, its the family console blah blah blah.
Split screen is also its own form of entertainment.
“stop screen watching!”
“i cant!!!”
and the closesness it brings.
I am sorry but the trend towards removing split screen in favour of just telling people to go online/buy another console sickens me.
16 man halo. 4 consoles and 4 tvs was seriously SERIOUSLY epic.
good luck getting 16 man halo with no splitscreen, it doesnt have live support.
/done.
signofzeta
(signofzeta)
#52
[QUOTE=Shiv;205211]You seem to be missing the point of split screen zeta.
There are many reasons people have ONE console with ONE tv. Not enough room, its the family console blah blah blah.
Split screen is also its own form of entertainment.
“stop screen watching!”
“i cant!!!”
and the closesness it brings.
I am sorry but the trend towards removing split screen in favour of just telling people to go online/buy another console sickens me.
16 man halo. 4 consoles and 4 tvs was seriously SERIOUSLY epic.
good luck getting 16 man halo with no splitscreen, it doesnt have live support.
/done.[/QUOTE]
As I have said, my way is a subsitute and is in no way supposed to replace conventional splitscreen gaming. But if this game does not have splitscreen, I’m saying, if any of you have the money to spare, you can make your own splitscreen out of your TV’s splitscreen capabilities. I’m kind of like saying, I want such and such a feature in this game, but most of you tell me to mod it in. I have no modding experience, and I decide that it isn’t worth it to mod something in in the first place only to mess up something else. Same argument here. Like modders who know a lot of things to get what they want with a game, people who have the money to spend on TVs with built in splitscreen and 2 games and 2 consoles have the luxury of splitscreen on any game with system link or lan support. If you can’t afford it, it’s like saying I can’t have a super robot who combines into this super being in the game just because I can’t mod it in.
If you have the resources to do it, then it is a great substitute, but if you don’t, then just walk it off. I have walked off countless of my ideas for ETQW because I don’t have to modding experience and I think trying to learn how to make maps for ETQW is not as important as, I don’t know, other things.
But it would be a bonus to have one console, 2 controllers and have splitscreen that way, but I can’t find any id tech 4 game that supports splitscreen. Splitscreen means halving the games’ resources just to have 2 instances of play. I think the reason why xbox doom 3 never had splitscreen while xbox RTCW had it was because of some excuse. I can think of the same excuse for the console versions of Brink. The id tech 4 engine just isn’t made for splitscreen, and if SD can pull it off, then it would definitely be a miracle.
And those who wanted splitscreen as if their life depended on it, would have taken the pricey route no matter what. But I assume you are all normal folks right?
In fact, I have a PS3 and a 360. If I spent the cash on a second 360 or a second PS3, instead of one of each, then I would have had splitscreen on my TV, but I chose not to because splitscreen play isn’t something that is the number one priority for me anyway.
Also playing together in the same house in a game without built in splitscreen is why the PC version is better in this regard. There are more people who have 2 PCs, that hopefully can run this game, than 2 consoles because people won’t even think of buying a second of a same console anyway. So just lan it up. That’s what me and my bro do for Baldur’s gate. Lan baby, and that’s the way to go.
But to SD, is it possible to have 2 people who can play at the same time with one copy of the game thus making it like a “splitscreen” mode for PC? Although technically not splitscreen, it would be still be 2 players playing on different PCs with one copy of the game. That would be nice.
badman
(badman)
#53
Those, my friend, are tapirs, mesmerising creatures that live life at a very leisurely pace indeed (also, they feed while trotting along the bottom of lakes).
DoubleDigit
(DoubleDigit)
#55
Nobody here got the technical difficult part? This is not just a simple option to put it. When playing split screen the graphic engine is run twice for a frame. Even if you use the same amount of video memory for the frame buffers, you have two camera positions that are totally independent of each other. If the game can get away with 30-40 fps, on split screen it will run half of that.
Why do you guys think images on mirrors from car games are low poly, no texture just to tell you how close are the other drivers from you?
General_Zod
(General_Zod)
#56
I’d like to mention something on split-screen. Although I think it would be great, it’s not a deal breaker for me.
But something I thought was really cool (and I suspect won’t happen again) was with left 4 dead 1. Because of it being on a console, they implemented split screen but removed this from the pc. Well the menu options anyway, but the console commands were still there to enable split screen.
But what was really cool was you could set a custom res and set your monitor to span two displays and split that, so in effect you had two full screen sessions on two displays running at the same time. I mention the custom res because say you wanted two 800x600 displays, you would set it to 1600x600 and with split screen enabled, which would split it across the two screen perfectly. The menu’s were off as they spanned both screens, but game play was perfect.
I’m not a big fan of l4d, but it was cool that instead of me always playing these games online by myself, I was able to get my girlfriend to play with me and finally convinced her to go online to play.
Now this is a tall order, (support for two keyboards mice/game controllers, custom resolutions etc) but it was a great experience. The source engine is obviously more forgiving requirements wise and was able to handle this whereas this game may not, but people do upgrade their systems and what was once bogging down now runs fine.
You could say buy two copies, but it’s pretty rare on the console side or pc side for someone to have two capable rigs set up in the same room to accomplish this.
Anyway, if you do make splitscreen, please consider this even if it’s an unsupported console cmd.
andor
(andor)
#57
Split Screen, for me, would make the difference between buying the game or not, because high speed internet is way to costly to get it on my road.
brbrbr
(brbrbr)
#58
another reason to buy/rent second set of PC/console 
/kidding off
btw usually Subject implementation dramatically compromise gameplay/interface.
and number of players, really Requiring this feat is marginal, especially on PC.
shadowslayer685
(shadowslayer685)
#59
[QUOTE=Nail;203283]No splt screen = everyone buys game
split screen = only half the people need to buy it
but as always, just my opinion[/QUOTE]
dude cmon i have 3 brothers some ppl want this for there brothers or playing with one of there friends thats whats good and also some ppl dont have online