BFBC2 vs ETQW

_milla · 2010-01-31 10:33:34 UTC

mose wheel for knife? lol thx!
psg_mud, how you unlocked all those weapons? because i can select primary (from 1 weapon), secondary (from 1 pistol) and gadged (1) ?

should i xp whore to unlock somethig?

iWi · 2010-01-31 10:54:51 UTC

[QUOTE=_milla;209943]hitboxes or classess/// lol

can you do that in ETQW?

this game rocks! and its game i was waiting for.
etqw was game of 2007.
its year 2010. and the king is BFBC2[/QUOTE]

I don’t think so .
2010 is The Year of BRINK and RAGE !
Why ? Cause BFBC2 does NOT bring anything new at gameplay even at art concept !
It’s just “DEJA VU” ; … soldiers in a field, isn’t ?!
Probably I’ll play it , but it’s not the game of year 2010.

all my respect

_milla · 2010-01-31 11:09:48 UTC

yeah, my fav is BRINK also, but if this game will not support dedicated servers, i will keep playing bfbc2

about RAGE i heard rumors it will not support dedicated servers (same as MW2) so my interest for this game is on zero.

sereNADE · 2010-01-31 11:38:01 UTC

i would reserve judgement regarding RAGE at this point. the game as a concept might lead to the necessity of dedicated servers in our minds but developer direction might take the game into single player concentrated territory. carmack’s words if i may paraphrase are that dedicated servers are relics of pc gaming’s past. not sure what sort of solution he is offering but if RAGE mulitplayer is more in the vein of borderlands then no need to complain but also no need to really play multiplayer either huh. in other words, don’t judge RAGE because it might not be worth playing if id is just a relic of pc gaming’s past. (i want RAGE to be awesome btw)

_milla · 2010-01-31 11:50:28 UTC

what can be relic on dedi server?
next level of dedicated servers gaming is real war.

iWi · 2010-01-31 12:17:06 UTC

yeah, dedicated servers …, we will see.
We know just few thing 'bout RAGE , but I feel and see lot of potencial . Now it’s up on ID & Carmack.

Let’s go - BRINK !

Apples · 2010-01-31 15:29:17 UTC

Some other cons I found after more time playing:

You cant get in a specific squad but the game random assign you = poo if you want to play with your mates only
The lag on 32 slots servers is just awfull, even with a low ping (30) you lag each time you enter a firefight
Server browser is still screwed at some point, you cant sort your server by playernumber, and you the filters dont work properly
You cant exit the game beetween 2 rounds, you have to wait for the game to load, then enter the round, then type esc to disconnect… dumb.
The close firefight are a pain in the ass cuz the engine is choppy as hell, its fine when you shoot from distance but when you are in a house for exemple, its just totally random and chaotic.

Some other pros I found:

Once you are accustomed to camp a bit more and be less rambo than in QW, you can actually have more win over your opponents during firefight.
The unlock are pretty cool and the weapon upgrades really add something to the game, but sadly it means that you’ll get constently powned by a guy with better weapon than you, so its 50/50 beetween pro n cons.

Peace

otakustar · 2010-01-31 15:53:41 UTC

I agree that those are the most exciting new IP coming out,
but don’t forget about Crysis2 in New York…

_milla · 2010-01-31 15:58:27 UTC

[QUOTE=Apples;210040]Some other cons I found after more time playing:

You cant get in a specific squad but the game random assign you = poo if you want to play with your mates only
The lag on 32 slots servers is just awfull, even with a low ping (30) you lag each time you enter a firefight
Server browser is still screwed at some point, you cant sort your server by playernumber, and you the filters dont work properly
You cant exit the game beetween 2 rounds, you have to wait for the game to load, then enter the round, then type esc to disconnect… dumb.
The close firefight are a pain in the ass cuz the engine is choppy as hell, its fine when you shoot from distance but when you are in a house for exemple, its just totally random and chaotic.

Some other pros I found:

Once you are accustomed to camp a bit more and be less rambo than in QW, you can actually have more win over your opponents during firefight.
The unlock are pretty cool and the weapon upgrades really add something to the game, but sadly it means that you’ll get constently powned by a guy with better weapon than you, so its 50/50 beetween pro n cons.

Peace[/QUOTE]

1.You cant get in a specific squad but the game random assign you :
-no, you can change teams, and join any squad you want (and lock it)

2.The lag on 32 slots servers is just awfull, even with a low ping (30) you lag each time you enter a firefight7
-you cannot sort servers by latency yet. when joinng server from server browser make sure your server is not located somewhere in australia;)
good servers are from multiplay.rackage, swissquake or i3d.net

3.Server browser is still screwed at some point
-mine is working good except sorting by ping

4.You cant exit the game beetween 2 rounds
-press ESC
or wait until somebody will kill you:tongue:

/edit

true is, bfbc2 is for me very hard game. killing someone needs lots of ammo, aiming is (in compare with etqw) very very hard,with low mouse sensitivity no chance to aim properly.
after 2 hours i played i have only 3000xp, nothing unlocked…

(i miss empty servers to explore the map and vehicles)

murka · 2010-01-31 18:48:39 UTC

After some hours of game i feel this game is unresponsive. I don’t get any feedback of what i’m doing and everything seems random. I was frustrated at first, but keeping my eyes open and against my nature, camped the shite out of this game i managed to get a kdr of 2.5. I really dislike games where rushing and quick thinking is hindered by randomness and camping.

_milla · 2010-01-31 21:46:16 UTC

exactly! this beta is pure chaos.

Apples · 2010-01-31 22:39:17 UTC

This beta is pure chaos while you think its the UBER MEGA BEST game of the year??? You sir, are bipolar…

The game can be enjoyable but it already needs big fixes gameplay wise, and some minor stuffs about HUD and server browser to be a “must buy” to me.

Peace

Apocalypse_Pony · 2010-01-31 22:49:29 UTC

I figured I’d give it a shot, so I DL’d and tried about a dozen or so. No luck as of yet. They’re valid, but in use. For whatever reason, the key input is klunky and slow to respond, so I tired quickly of trying.

Anyone else get lucky?

_milla · 2010-01-31 23:04:26 UTC

[QUOTE=Apples;210126]This beta is pure chaos while you think its the UBER MEGA BEST game of the year??? You sir, are bipolar…

The game can be enjoyable but it already needs big fixes gameplay wise, and some minor stuffs about HUD and server browser to be a “must buy” to me.

Peace[/QUOTE]

maybe im tripolar. finally i found empty server so some things are more clear to me.

BandwidthBandit · 2010-02-01 09:02:23 UTC

[QUOTE=_milla;210051]…2.The lag on 32 slots servers is just awfull, even with a low ping (30) you lag each time you enter a firefight7
-you cannot sort servers by latency yet. when joinng server from server browser make sure your server is not located somewhere in australia;)[/QUOTE]

Unless of course you live in AUSTRALIA!!!1!!!11111

And I was going to put another shrimp on the barbie for you and let you ride my kangaroo!!!

Well you can forget about that now MATE!!!

_milla · 2010-02-01 11:39:34 UTC

[QUOTE=Bandwidth_Bandito;210154]Unless of course you live in AUSTRALIA!!!1!!!11111

And I was going to put another shrimp on the barbie for you and let you ride my kangaroo!!!

Well you can forget about that now MATE!!![/QUOTE]

i have no lag unless i play on the servers close to me. so i would go this way… seek for server near to you:wink:

Shiv · 2010-02-01 14:35:43 UTC

I had a game with some friends on a sydney server last night, perfectly playable which was odd :x
only issue was knifing, but if they got close enough to knife me i had failed to shoot them anyway.
even flying was smooth.

I am in uk

_milla · 2010-02-01 22:10:05 UTC

i dont know what it means but i red on official forums some players posts and some of them are comparing bfbc2 to etqw… for me its good because i <3 both games.

AnthonyDa · 2010-02-01 22:24:23 UTC

[quote=Apples;210126]This beta is pure chaos while you think its the UBER MEGA BEST game of the year??? You sir, are bipolar…

The game can be enjoyable but it already needs big fixes gameplay wise, and some minor stuffs about HUD and server browser to be a “must buy” to me.

Peace[/quote]
Well at least we know that someone here is loving EA marketing :stroggbanana:

_milla · 2010-02-01 22:31:35 UTC

for me, marketing is sixth element Earth, Fire, Sand, Water & Love & Marketing!