Being skilled but having a bad team feels unrewarding


(SereneFlight) #41

[quote=“Fiktio;91031”]I find it kinda ridiculous that people rage and get mad on public servers because of “stupid” or “noob” team mates.
Unfortunately stupid people exists and there’s nothing what we could do for it, so nobody can help that those people also join in the same server with you and “ruin your mood.”
Though at the same time it’s good to realize that everybody aren’t at your level and have your skills, so banging your head to the wall because of random players might not be the best idea to do.
Public matches are filled with different kind of players and you should not expect anything else. You have a chance to get different kind of team mates to play with you. Some are clever and unfortunately some are as useful as potatoes. Do you allow potatoes ruin your day?
Also we should not forget that those potatoes are in every online game, unfortunately they are not hiding under rocks.[/quote]
I do expect people to comprehend words “attack”, “defend”, “c4”, “EV” and “medic”… but it turns out I’ve expected way too much… but I do tend to expect too much when I think about having a common sense… and it’s just not some level 1 or 2 players… nooonononono. You see a lot of people hiding around the corner when they should be pushing in Min. lvl 10 servers which just makes me sad.


(Lumi) #42

[quote=“terminal;91882”]

I was comparing games because he was comparing games
I was informing him on the differences of the two games.
@Lumi [/quote]

Still doesn.t make me less right that DB shouldn’t resemble CS:GO, does it?

[quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;91898”]@Luml

And yet Battlefield can also be classified as a team shooter. You still need medics, you still need ammo guys. CS was just an example of how 1 guy with a gun is meaningful. You can do the same in Battlefield as well, even though it’s even more bullet spongy than CS.

And of course I can compare the two. I’m not comparing something that’s cartoonish and arcadey like TF2.

It seems that you’re unable to tell the difference between an analogy and a literal comparison.[/quote]

And in DB one guy with one gun, or one repair tool, or one pair of defibs can also be meaningful. People are just not used to be meaningful and have a negative KD. That’s the point here. It’s not about not being able to carry a team alone. I’ve done it many times already, by pushing the objective countless times.

Heck, I’ve had games where I would be focussing on the objective so well, that people on the other team would leave out of frustration. To balance the game I would then switch and then still win the game because I was once more focussing on the objective better than anyone else.

I’ve had games where I won as MVP with 0.5KD, either being it that I was defusing the bomb all the time or repairing the EV bit by bit although dying a tremendous amount of time while doing it.

People in this thread, complaining about requiring to be able to single handily be able to kill the entire opposite team, just feel like they can’t chain kills and feel like a boss because of that. They say then that it is because the team is not doing anything and that they can’t carry them. Most of the time this kind of situation happens, is because there is no engineer, or no medic on that team. For all of you complaining of not being able to carry, maybe switching class would be a smart move.

Point is, there are many issue with DB right now, but the lack of easy killing isn’t one of it. If anything, most weapons should be nerfed imo.


(terminal) #43

[quote=“Lumi;91916”][quote=“terminal;91882”]

I was comparing games because he was comparing games
I was informing him on the differences of the two games.
@Lumi [/quote]

Still doesn.t make me less right that DB shouldn’t resemble CS:GO, does it?

[quote=“extraordinaryEmperor;91898”]@Luml

And yet Battlefield can also be classified as a team shooter. You still need medics, you still need ammo guys. CS was just an example of how 1 guy with a gun is meaningful. You can do the same in Battlefield as well, even though it’s even more bullet spongy than CS.

And of course I can compare the two. I’m not comparing something that’s cartoonish and arcadey like TF2.

It seems that you’re unable to tell the difference between an analogy and a literal comparison.[/quote]

And in DB one guy with one gun, or one repair tool, or one pair of defibs can also be meaningful. People are just not used to be meaningful and have a negative KD. That’s the point here. It’s not about not being able to carry a team alone. I’ve done it many times already, by pushing the objective countless times.

Heck, I’ve had games where I would be focussing on the objective so well, that people on the other team would leave out of frustration. To balance the game I would then switch and then still win the game because I was once more focussing on the objective better than anyone else.

I’ve had games where I won as MVP with 0.5KD, either being it that I was defusing the bomb all the time or repairing the EV bit by bit although dying a tremendous amount of time while doing it.

People in this thread, complaining about requiring to be able to single handily be able to kill the entire opposite team, just feel like they can’t chain kills and feel like a boss because of that. They say then that it is because the team is not doing anything and that they can’t carry them. Most of the time this kind of situation happens, is because there is no engineer, or no medic on that team. For all of you complaining of not being able to carry, maybe switching class would be a smart move.

Point is, there are many issue with DB right now, but the lack of easy killing isn’t one of it. If anything, most weapons should be nerfed imo.
[/quote]
You made it sound like I was comparing them.
I was telling OP that you can’t clutch in dirty bomb and told him the factors in CSGO that allowed them to clutch.


(Lumi) #44

The best is still a level 7 Skyhammer refilling ammo near an ammo cache. Or a level 5 medic writing in chat “WHAT THE HELL IS REVIVE?” after being asked many times by mic to do his job and revive people…


(Lumi) #45

my bad then, misunderstood you.


(Vinos) #46

The contrary is true for me. Being a good player in a bad team makes me VIP


(gg2ez) #47

Exactly. The feel of carrying your team by 8k points is pure bliss.


(Fiktio) #48

[quote=“SereneFlight;91915”][quote=“Fiktio;91031”]I find it kinda ridiculous that people rage and get mad on public servers because of “stupid” or “noob” team mates.
Unfortunately stupid people exists and there’s nothing what we could do for it, so nobody can help that those people also join in the same server with you and “ruin your mood.”
Though at the same time it’s good to realize that everybody aren’t at your level and have your skills, so banging your head to the wall because of random players might not be the best idea to do.
Public matches are filled with different kind of players and you should not expect anything else. You have a chance to get different kind of team mates to play with you. Some are clever and unfortunately some are as useful as potatoes. Do you allow potatoes ruin your day?
Also we should not forget that those potatoes are in every online game, unfortunately they are not hiding under rocks.[/quote]
I do expect people to comprehend words “attack”, “defend”, “c4”, “EV” and “medic”… but it turns out I’ve expected way too much… but I do tend to expect too much when I think about having a common sense… and it’s just not some level 1 or 2 players… nooonononono. You see a lot of people hiding around the corner when they should be pushing in Min. lvl 10 servers which just makes me sad.

[/quote]

Reminds me of one of those great quotes, favorite of mine:

“Common sense is not so common.”


(Litego) #49

You can carry way harder in DB than in BF, just saying.

And yeah, you can kill the entire enemy team, no problem. Carrying in DB isn’t hard, the problem here just seems to be the OPs lack of carry, not the game.


(LifeupOmega) #50

After today I’m just… I don’t understand, how are players so dense that they can’t at least play follow the leader and run in after you do? Every game people can’t do the bare minimum required to play a game. Community servers when? I need them. I need a stable thriving player base.

I need to vent, I need to lie down.


(avidCow) #51

[quote=“LifeupOmega;92220”]After today I’m just… I don’t understand, how are players so dense that they can’t at least play follow the leader and run in after you do? Every game people can’t do the bare minimum required to play a game. Community servers when? I need them. I need a stable thriving player base.

I need to vent, I need to lie down.[/quote]

There are lot of people who don’t get this concept, and never will.


(neverplayseriou) #52

@terminal first just show us a vid of u playing the game :3


(terminal) #53

@sensitiveJellyfish


(gg2ez) #54

@sensitiveJellyfish


[/quote]

Nice try buddy. Even if that is you, you’re playing pre-nerf Phantom - hardly a testament to any skill.


(Glot) #55

prbbly weapon spread climb from min to max, can be slightly tweaked.

OR more skill-oriented:
-speed of spread-decrease after weapon switch (how fast spread goes to min again) can be higher?
-spread in crouch/walk against run/jump

so that you could actually do more stuff to get your spread back even faster, if you are fast enough


(neverplayseriou) #56

@terminal
First of all there’s no proof that this is you playing, I’m also not seeing you carrying your team or actually even using a gun.

And this is phantom before his nerf…

Like this I can also post a ss of me pub stomping people lower than lvl 10, this still won’t prove if I’m any good at the game:
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/382036172059046681/F4EECB7B6290C7AC73B5BC66E3AE2543A98FDB7C/


(terminal) #57

@sensitiveJellyfish


[/quote]

Nice try buddy. Even if that is you, you’re playing pre-nerf Phantom - hardly a testament to any skill. [/quote]

[quote=“sensitiveJellyfish;92349”]@terminal
First of all there’s no proof that this is you playing, I’m also not seeing you carrying your team or actually even using a gun.

And this is phantom before his nerf…

Like this I can also post a ss of me pub stomping people lower than lvl 10, this still won’t prove if I’m any good at the game:
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/382036172059046681/F4EECB7B6290C7AC73B5BC66E3AE2543A98FDB7C/[/quote]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e18eE33juE8


(neverplayseriou) #58

@terminal well I guess this proves the point that you have no argument against anything said.


(terminal) #59

I still can’t believe you and @gg2ez believed that lmfao
That was an old video posted on the forums months ago.

Why do you want me to record a video of me playing? If you want to compare skill you can send me your steam so that me and my friends can play your team in a private server.


(neverplayseriou) #60

@terminal uhmm lol how do your friends show your skill exactly?