Bad Lead Designer

(CLS) #41

Playing a fast team based FPS, with the main goal of collecting pokemon cards baffles me. I still think Dirty Bomb is not the right game for you as your priorities are not align with the core gameplay, but you are free to waste your time the way you want, you’re right.

[quote=“Jesus;168138”]I dont have friend playing this game and we cant play together in pub anyways[/quote] Why is that? I play with mine all the time.

[quote=“Jesus;168138”] and we are not gonna go with the randommers of silver that are absolute dipshit. You cant just say to people to change their motive to play. Everyone play for different reason I play to grind the loadout because thats the only thing last in that game there is no fun in it its boring repetitive @$!# with the same map and mode all over again and dont get me started on execution this is one of the biggest @$!# they made in this game. [/quote] So, you’re still playing this game, that you don’t like, find boring and repetitive, JUST to grind cards. That totally makes sense.

[quote=“Jesus;168138”]
I dont improve anything while grinding the pub place and I dont see why I would want to improve anything anyway I have no team I dont plan to play on a competitive scene, last time I tried that it didnt go well because it was full of tryhard and it probably didnt changed.
[/quote] Ho boy, I don’t even know where to begin with.

[quote=“Jesus;168138”]
Stop acting like there was a special valid way of playing Dirty Bomb that makes everything else bad. You’re just being silly. If you dont play for the loadout some other people do because clearly not everyone is dedicating themselves to this huge @$!# that is the ranked mode or else there wouldnt be thread to attract more players in it.[/quote] There is only one right way, having fun, which you don’t seem to have any since you don’t like this boring & repetitive game. Also, all your posts are just recurrent rant at DEVs and nerfs and whatnot, I really wonder why you keep on playing and spending time on this forum, but hey, you said it, we all have different motives.

[quote=“Jesus;168138”]
Get off your high horse a bit you dont have any more credit or validity because you Mr plays on a competitive scene ohohoh. [/quote] Joke is on you, I don’t play competitive either, I’m just enjoying the game and trying to be positive instead of being a constant dick at pretty much everyone.

And there it goes again, chill out dude, it’s just a game :wink:

(Faraleth) #42

@Sithas I don’t really blame him when he full well knows everything he says will be taken out of context, cause people to rage and post incredibly spiteful comments on the various forums - which is 100% true as to what happened.

No one seems to humanise the developers behind the game and take 10 seconds to think “what if I was in his shoes?”. I don’t think he was bored, I think he was just not really wanting to be there. And considering the forums/reddit’s reaction to things right now… who can blame him, really? :confused:

(CLS) #43

[quote=“Faraleth;168165”]
@Sithas I don’t really blame him when he full well knows everything he says will be taken out of context, cause people to rage and post incredibly spiteful comments on the various forums - which is 100% true as to what happened.

No one seems to humanise the developers behind the game and take 10 seconds to think “what if I was in his shoes?”. I don’t think he was bored, I think he was just not really wanting to be there. And considering the forums/reddit’s reaction to things right now… who can blame him, really? :/[/quote]

I 100% agree with you. There should be a “Min brain level” to be allowed to post on these forums. People don’t understand how inensitive, aggresive and heartful they can be, just because this is the internet, and you know, why not?

(Jesus) #44

And there it goes again, chill out dude, it’s just a game ;)[/quote]

wut ? Someone tells you buy that and invest your time in this game and you’ll be rewarded with some good stuff, so you do it and you invest time in the game time that you could spend doing something else. Only to discover once its done that you’ve been lied to and you wont get shit. And your reaction is “Okay”. Damn I can’t imagine how it must be in life,
if your boss tells you you’re gonna work ten hours overtime and ill pay you double and after you do it he says welp you are not going to get paid do you also say “Okay” ?
If for you its okay to get lied to and almost be scammed thats your problem for me (and plenty of other people that you will find in the thread about those booster) its not okay not all.

Playing a fast team based FPS, with the main goal of collecting pokemon cards baffles me. I still think Dirty Bomb is not the right game for you as your priorities are not align with the core gameplay, but you are free to waste your time the way you want, you’re right.[/quote]

Yeah because you absolutely need to be a competitive tryhard to play the game, right by your logic half if not 3/4 of the players shouldnt be playing that game when you see them in pub. If there was no competitive tryhard like that whose only goal is to win and stomp people better everyone would enjoy the game much more. It baffles me that you play a game with plenty of different item in different skin just to get better at stomping other people which gets boring after 3 match of doing that. Do I care ? No.

[quote=“Jesus;168138”]
I dont improve anything while grinding the pub place and I dont see why I would want to improve anything anyway I have no team I dont plan to play on a competitive scene, last time I tried that it didnt go well because it was full of tryhard and it probably didnt changed.
[/quote] Ho boy, I don’t even know where to begin with.[/quote]
More like there is nothing to say .

[quote=“Jesus;168138”]I dont have friend playing this game and we cant play together in pub anyways[/quote] Why is that? I play with mine all the time.
. [/quote]
Because the game is simply not adapted for that if you want to play with friends you have to go through the server browser and find a server fitting what you are seeking with on top of that sufficient room for all of you and then everyone must join in time the one who joined the server before the spot gets taken; what a fucking stuggle just to play a game when any game offers a basic group joining function that makes things way easier but not here.

[quote=“Jesus;168138”]
Stop acting like there was a special valid way of playing Dirty Bomb that makes everything else bad. You’re just being silly. If you dont play for the loadout some other people do because clearly not everyone is dedicating themselves to this huge @$!# that is the ranked mode or else there wouldnt be thread to attract more players in it.[/quote] There is only one right way, having fun, which you don’t seem to have any since you don’t like this boring & repetitive game. Also, all your posts are just recurrent rant at DEVs and nerfs and whatnot, I really wonder why you keep on playing and spending time on this forum, but hey, you said it, we all have different motives.[/quote]

I’m not having fun when I’m getting scammed what a shocker. I complain when there is something to complain about and when there is not Im not on the forum. Thats as simple as that. I keep spending time here and on the forum because Ive invested a fuckload in that game and I somehow still keeps hope. I’m also looking for other alternatives but there isnt much thing out there.

This is not the topic of this thread anyway.

(Sithas) #45

[quote=“Faraleth;168165”]

@Sithas I don’t really blame him when he full well knows everything he says will be taken out of context, cause people to rage and post incredibly spiteful comments on the various forums - which is 100% true as to what happened.

No one seems to humanise the developers behind the game and take 10 seconds to think “what if I was in his shoes?”. I don’t think he was bored, I think he was just not really wanting to be there. And considering the forums/reddit’s reaction to things right now… who can blame him, really? :/[/quote]

Maybe i used the wrong word, not bored but his dislike of being in the stream can clearly be seen. And like i said earlier i understand why he doenst like to sit there. the problem is that because of that dislike, the stream felt for a lack of better word i would say uneasy. Like someone else said the chemistry between shoe and exodure was not good, and that comes partly because of the dislike exodure is showing.

(blonk) #46

This statement is beyond incredible. Please provide whatever credentials allow you to judge how fit he is for his role, beyond being a pissed off little kid.

(BlazinFox) #47

This is the LEAD designer. He has A LOT riding on his shoulders. He’s likely afraid that he’ll get judged by the people who play the game. Would you want to be judged as a lead designer? I don’t really think so.

(AnimeDude) #48

“So I’m not actually sure if we ever want to do that. I know it would be a while because I know a lot of people put their credits into buying equipment cases, but I look at that as more as a problem of you don’t have other things to put credits into, and it’s because people don’t really like the trade up and trade in system”
LITERALLY WHAT!? I just want to buy 50 cases with my 50k credits in a few seconds instead of having to sit in this unresponsive menu for over 30 minutes, bravo SD.

(KattiValk) #49

@Faraleth Of course we can’t judge the lead designer on one stream’s interview alone, but there is plenty that was released to be worried about. I don’t know enough about how the new matchmaking is going to work and haven’t bought boosters so I won’t pretend to know how these will turn out, but the fact that Phantom’s new ability is still in the conceptual stage is frankly ridiculous given how long it’s been. I’m excited for so many new changes planned (maybe even Steam avis for the end screen!), but balance should always come first.

SD seems to really want to be cryptic, and admittedly, it’s not without reason. However, every miscommunication ends with more bad press. I just feel like a little more openness would do some good. Glasnost may have led to the end of the Soviet Union, but that doesn’t mean we need a Kremlin filled with secrets! :smile:

(Szakalot) #50

[quote=“Incoming;168223”]@Faraleth Of course we can’t judge the lead designer on one stream’s interview alone, but there is plenty that was released to be worried about. I don’t know enough about how the new matchmaking is going to work and haven’t bought boosters so I won’t pretend to know how these will turn out, but the fact that Phantom’s new ability is still in the conceptual stage is frankly ridiculous given how long it’s been. I’m excited for so many new changes planned (maybe even Steam avis for the end screen!), but balance should always come first.
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why is it ridiculous?

Ideas are CHEAP. Its the ones that work that get expensive. Plus, Phantom balance is low priority, compared to other items on to-do lists. Which I am personally glad about. There will always be time to balance the game later.

(KattiValk) #51

@Szakalot I love new content, prettier UI and graphics, events, etc. but it doesn’t mean much when the game’s fundamental balance is still wonky. They could have done something as simple as throw out some concept builds for Phantom with every new patch just to see how things worked out for however long that patch lasted with a new one coming out every time. It’s a beta after all, so they’re entitled to experiment like that. I’d also wager it would be received better by the community than dead silence and a slightly cruel April Fools joke.

(Black) #52

[quote=“Faraleth;168143”]Honestly, the guy’s worked hard to get to where he’s at. Every single person on the planet will do good and bad things compared to your own personal vision for the game - you will NEVER find a lead designer who does every single thing you want. Everyone thinks differently, and the direction he is trying to take the game is a good one, which a lot of people agree with… but a lot of people disagree too, and that’s OK.

You are inclined to disagree with what you like, but I think assessing someone such as Exedore as not fit for their job is pretty damn disrespectful considering he is one of the main guys responsible for the game you all love so much.

Just my 2 cents. He’s not perfect, because everyone’s opinion is different, and no one else you choose will be either.

So long as this thread remains on topic, discussing the pro’s and con’s of future design choices it can remain open. :slight_smile: Forewarning though, if it turns into a @$!#-posting hate fest on Splash Damage or a particular employee, it will be closed. Thanks all![/quote]

Oh here we go again with people bs’ing themselves.

We all understand that the lead designer can’t make everyone happy, nor is he inclined to take the game in the direction players want it to go. I’m not going to tell him how to do his job, it’s completely up to him on what he decides to do with his game.

However don’t pretend like a lot of players here are not frustrated at his decisions.

A lot of people do not agree with the direction he’s taking this game. No that’s not some brash generalization I made. I see players complain in game and on the forums constantly. More than half the threads on this forum are players complaining, wanting change, and suggesting.

(Szakalot) #53

fundamental balance wonky? seriously? phantom is still a blast to play on pubs, and frankly ‘ez mode’ since my ISP is feeding me 100+ ping

there are much more presing balance issues, like thunder, sparks, stark and PDP

(BananaSlug) #54

it wont be customization, it need to be free, or credits only, because if it would be paid only, too many people would get scared that db is p2w. sights just arent skins

(KattiValk) #55

@Szakalot Yes, the balance is part of the core of the game and should be focused on. I play pistol only Kira in pubs and think it’s fun. Does that mean it’d be okay to just give Kira a pistol simply because that’s enjoyable to me?

Phantom is just the most extreme example of brokenness at the moment. No one ever said there weren’t other issues.

(Cletus_VanDamme) #56

Bored? From where I was sitting, he was very very very very excited. Too excited.

(Szakalot) #57

how is phantom an extreme example of brokeness lolol. he can still destroy pubs provided someone is going to give you ammo as you will rarely ever die. imo phantom balance is one of the least off-balance mercs, from the ones that do need a change

(KattiValk) #58

@Szakalot I own pubs with Thunder. I don’t see what the point behind Phantom being able to kill people in pubs is. Are you saying Thunder can’t kill people in pubs and therefore needs fixing over Phantom?

Also, this is still glorious.

(Szakalot) #59

thunder is definitely weaker than phantom on pubs, though currently im biased as 100-110 ping make Phantom almost OP.

both are useless for comp but thunder ‘could’ be useful with some tweaks. phantom will never be useful in 5v5 without making him OP on pubs: stealth is pretty much useless on a smaller, comp server, so making him viable for comp would be buff+stealth: which is just too strong for the chaotic 8v8 of pubs

(Amerika) #60

I don’t agree with every call Exedore makes but I was amazed at just how candid he was yesterday about upcoming things. He even got super specific with a lot of it. A lot of people wanted transparency as to where the game is going? You got it. You might not agree with it but you got it.

Also, just because somebody isn’t acting all giddy over something, which we are all conditioned to see due to “insider” marketing that is prevalent these days (especially with youtubers), doesn’t mean they are bored or not interested in what they are saying.

So, again, I might not agree with every decision but at the core of DB I love the game so a lot more has been gotten right for me than wrong. Also, I really loved almost all of the future changes that are coming to the game. A lot of them have been things I’ve been campaigning for myself for a long time…including one change that caused me to sign up on these forums over a year ago just to suggest.

As far as the cosmetics go I’m not that huge into them so I’m not super bothered by the issues present. And cosmetics don’t impact whether I enjoy a games gameplay or not. 16 years later and I still play with an orange forcemodel of Sarge for my teammates and bright green Keel for my opponents in Quake 3/Quake Live. If I could forcemodel in DB I would do it in a heartbeat. If it turns out that drops aren’t working like they were advertised things will eventually work out. It’s not like things haven’t been broken before but turned out fine in the end.